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Nachtengel
Sunday, January 15th, 2012, 06:15 PM
This is a good question, right-wing politicians nowadays try to candidate and take part in the sham democratic system. Are they really aiding the nationalist cause that way? They are essentially trying to be part of a system that is anti-Germanic from the core.

Some right-wing politicians who are caught making controversial or racist statements apologize or say they have been taken out of context. They make amends to please other parties or enter coalitions with other parties with civic nationalist platforms.

Politicians are supposed to represent the people. Do you feel that current right-wing politicians and parties represent your interests? Why, or why not?

RoyBatty
Sunday, January 15th, 2012, 06:45 PM
This is a good question, right-wing politicians nowadays try to candidate and take part in the sham democratic system. Are they really aiding the nationalist cause that way? They are essentially trying to be part of a system that is anti-Germanic from the core.


There are very few, if any "right-wing politicians" who are in any way connected to Nationalist Causes. They are simply presenting a right-wing spin on political policies but their ideology and goals are to serve themselves (and their financial sponsors such as Corporations, Tycoons etc) rather than any Nationalist cause.

The reason why many of them participate in and are tolerated "inside the democratic system" (including the media which formulates opinions by "reporting" on events) is because they form part of what is known as the Controlled Opposition. They are there to provide voters with a supposed choice or outlet for their frustrations even though they don't actually offer any kind of value in return for those votes.




Some right-wing politicians who are caught making controversial or racist statements apologize or say they have been taken out of context. They make amends to please other parties or enter coalitions with other parties with civic nationalist platforms.


They all understand that their careers (which is based on serving the Corporations and Tycoons and themselves) will be finished by the system, media and that they will be dropped by their Corporate and Tycoon sponsors if they don't "apologise". Hence they are careful to tow the line and are quick to apologise when criticised.




Politicians are supposed to represent the people. Do you feel that current right-wing politicians and parties represent your interests? Why, or why not?

That is what they tell us happens in "Democracy" but Western Democracy does not work like that at all.

Western Democracy = a system where the Establishment, Rich and Plutocracy provide funding and facilities for an electoral system which contains political parties and politicians of their choice. (Outsiders neither wanted, welcome or capable of mounting a credible challenge).

The public are offered a choice between the candidates and parties presented to them by the Plutocracy. It therefore makes little if any difference which particular set of Puppets are voted into office.

- Politicians and Parties are generally speaking above the law
- Politicians and Parties are not held to account for their actions
- Politicians and Parties are not held to account for their pre-election promises
- Politicians and Parties rule as they see fit and as their Corporate and Plutocracy Masters instruct them to rule. The notion that their decisions and actions are somehow based on "democratic national consensus" is pitiful and absurd.
- Voters have no say in decisions made by Politicians and Parties. The notion that there is actual "democracy" in a Western Democracy is absurd.

Democracy is an illusion.
Most Right-Wing politicians and parties are another illusion.

Leonhardt
Sunday, January 15th, 2012, 07:15 PM
I am not aware of any mainstream Nationalist in the US that are running.

Washington, that is, “representative government,” consists only of a few powerful vested interests. These private interests, not the American people, control the US government.

That is why nothing that the US government does benefits the American people.

The current crop of presidential contenders, except for Ron Paul, represent the controlling interests. War and financial fraud are the only remaining American Values.

Will Americans again give the sheen of “democracy” to rule by a few by participating in the coming rigged elections?

If you have to vote, vote for Ron Paul or for a more extreme third party candidate. Show that you do not support the lie that is the system. -Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/01/11/the-next-war-on-washingtons-agenda/

Æmeric
Sunday, January 15th, 2012, 07:21 PM
The "right" covers a broad political spectrum. It includes social conservatives, Evangelical Christians, fiscal conservatives, libertarians & NEOCONS. Neocons dominate the right, they are essentially marxists who support huge military budgets, are zionists, globalists & want to impose "Liberal Democracy" on the whole world by force - except in China. Nationalists & racialists have no place in the current right (unless they keep their views secret). Pat Buchanan is a good example of an actual right-winged politician who has been marginalized as a racist & anti-semetic kook by the neocons.

The Bushes were neocons, McCain was a neocon, there is no reason to think Romney will be different, unless he is a closet racialist & nationalist. Neocons are traitors.

Hitler is portrayed as having been a right-winged politician, in spite of the fact his party was socialist (it was part of the official name), Hitler being conservative on race issues, very leftist on economic policies. Mussolini was very similar - FDR's New Deal was based on Mussolini's policies, and yet actual rightists are called "fascist" by the left as a political slur.

Kauz R. Waldher
Sunday, January 15th, 2012, 07:43 PM
Some parts of socialism are good. In my opinion anyway. But just because the government may aid or be involved in medicine, doesn't mean it has to be a big government. The government is supposed to be there for the people. So, in essence of that ideal ... I think the government should take care of (financially) all war veterans and the elderly. The whole way.
But the kind of socialism we have in the U.S. is right next door to communism. We're on the cusp.

And NO WAY are the contemporary right-wing politicans in favor of our views or beliefs. They seek to destroy us and rape us of our rights just the same as the leftists. Just look at Bush and Obama for example. Two supposed opposites, same results. FREEDOMS LOST! Well, not "lost" ... STOLEN.

Primus
Sunday, January 15th, 2012, 10:00 PM
I'd say that they're sell-outs since, in the end when it's all said and done, they serve the same selfish interests as the leftist politicians.

Goosey
Monday, January 16th, 2012, 04:49 AM
They are far more dangerous to us than the contemporary left. At least young white people have a chance of getting a start in life when Labour are in. They both bring in the immigrants so no difference there.

Slivers
Monday, January 16th, 2012, 05:38 AM
I do not consider any American politician to be right-wing. The closest would be Gingrich but he seems so jaded and bitter about something (who knows what) that I just feel he will end up giving the right a bad name. Most of these guys like Romney and Perry are just American style bourgeois fat cats, they will eventually do more harm than good. People in the left and middle will just associate them with greed and corporate America. I can only see myself voting for Gingrich despite his short comings.

Goosey
Monday, January 16th, 2012, 06:01 AM
^ Are you aware of his Zionist opinions and that he is a Jew?

Primus
Monday, January 16th, 2012, 02:32 PM
I can only see myself voting for Gingrich despite his short comings.

How about not voting at all as I plan to do? Greengrinch is political insider and a corporate whore, no? In other words, business as usual in Washington, D.C. He may be a flake but the only one who's even remotely appealing to me is Ron Paul, but his chances of winning the race are pretty mucn mil. Paul'll make a splash but nothing more.

Pretty much I think that the Mormon has this one locked up; Limbaugh has been softly, slowly propagandizing Romney and where Limbaugh (actually Savage has been blowing hot air for Romney for months!) leads the other Republican radio blowhards'll follow.

RoyBatty
Monday, January 16th, 2012, 05:22 PM
I'd put money on the Mormon winning this one as well.

Primus
Monday, January 16th, 2012, 06:46 PM
I'd put money on the Mormon winning this one as well.

Like I said, business as usual. The only thing that one can hope that, with Romney's business/economic savvy, he might be able to fix the many economic maladies of the U.S. Not that I'm hopeful or anything mind you the Mormon is another stooge, but it's something better to consider than four more years of Obamaitits (which it'll probably be and in which case you can toss the U.S. into the heap of failed nations).

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/4/8/a08a4ca1-7708-46ca-b2ef-d117d543ca06.jpg

Dead Eye
Tuesday, January 17th, 2012, 10:58 PM
I think the BNP are a great example of this.I think its a good thing to get on the good side of politics instead of being the social outcasts where no one will take you seriously.Many people have still yet to be awakened so getting our message out there in a well mannered mainstream way is the way forward in my opinion.

Ralf
Wednesday, January 18th, 2012, 09:20 PM
I copied and pasted this for you regarding the UKs mainstream "right" party, the Conservatives.
If the title has asked the same question about the Left wing, I could have copied and pasted exactly the same answer, for as Revelation 17 says:- 18 "The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

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The Conservative friends of Israel (CFI) consist of around 80% of all Conservative MP's who provide money for their respective election campaigns which obviously comes with pre conditions! One can relate to such pre conditions when Rt Hon David Cameron MP, Leader of the Conservative Party at the Conservative Party Conference, 3 October 2006 said the following:

"The Conservative Party is a true friend of Israel because we look at Israel and we see a democracy, we see a democracy that has a right to exist and a right to defend itself and that is a force for good in the world, and I want to say that as clearly as I possibly can."

It was David Cameron who appeared before the CFI lunch some months after Cast Lead and said nothing to denounce the actions of the Israeli Government in actual fact complemented Israel by say "Israel strives to protect innocent life" he also went on to say that "If I become Prime Minister, Israel will have a friend who will never turn his back on Israel."

The Ambassador of Israel, HE Zvi Heifetz, who attended a conference once said: "I know from experience that I can rely on the members of CFI to put Israel's case... The Conservative Party has long been the home of some of Israel's most outstanding advocates. For that you have my deep appreciation and my thanks."

MCP3
Thursday, January 19th, 2012, 07:16 AM
I'd put money on the Mormon winning this one as well.

RT: Israel and GOP join forces to oust Obama

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The race to the White House is in full swing and President Obama has been on the campaign trail to try to win a second term in office. Not only will the Republican Presidential nominee be a hand full for Obama, but also Israel. Obama will most likely get an ear full of questions about his role in the US relationship with Israel. Many believe Israel is taking on the task to have Obama removed as president for 2012. Max Blumenthal, writing fellow for The Nation Institute, takes a closer look at Obama's role with Israel and gives us his take on whether or not Obama will be in the White House for 2012.

Nachtengel
Friday, October 21st, 2016, 01:04 PM
Here's something to think about... there are new "right wing" parties and groups emerging and they become more and more politically correct to appeal to the mainstream. In Germany, the NPD used to be the "star party". And now,



The decline and fall of Germany's 'neo-Nazi' NPD

Germany's oldest far-right party lost many of its voters to the AfD in Sunday's regional election. It is also facing bankruptcy and a ban by the Constitutional Court - but that doesn't mean it's finished.

For many media pundits, it looked like the final nail in the coffin: The National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD) gathered only 24,365 votes in Sunday's state election in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, halving its proportion of the vote and pushing Germany's oldest far-right party below the 5 percent necessary to enter the state parliament.

The result means that the NPD is no longer represented in any parliament in Germany at all - a heavy blow for a party that once had members in seven of West Germany's 11 state parliaments, and, at the peak of its success in 1969, only narrowly missed entry into the Bundestag when it collected 4.3 percent of the national vote.

Apart from a handful of local councilors around the country, the NPD's last democratic representative is Udo Voigt, a member of the European Parliament, who admitted to the "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" this week that his party had been forced to fall back on its "core voters" - before defiantly promising that the party would continue.
http://www.dw.com/en/the-decline-and-fall-of-germanys-neo-nazi-npd/a-19532536

RoyBatty
Saturday, October 22nd, 2016, 08:49 AM
I could be mistaken, but in my opinion political parties and movements competing in the "democratic process" as we know it are mostly corrupt and useless.

The reasons why are not hard to understand. Political Parties and Politicians earn their livings by (usually) acting on behalf of the rich patrons and corporations who fund them. (Where else would they get money from, public donations??? And just how far would that take them?)

In order to gain power and influence in "Western Democracy", a party needs to establish a large following and supporter base. This of course again means appealing to the mainstream, and appealing to as many fringe groups as possible.

As we all should be aware, the mainstream are already brainwashed and zombified with Cultural Marxism which is beamed into their heads 24/7 by Jew TV, the MSM and so on. The educational system, meaning schools and colleges, are largely under the control of Cultural Marxists and Leftists. The implication here is that whoever goes to schools and colleges under their control will be exposed to heavy doses of Cultural Marxism and ZOG propaganda. Not many people have the will or the intellect to resist.

The problems are basically that the average "white" voters, even if they are becoming disillusioned with multi-culturalism and Cultural Marxism, are conflicted in their views because they don't want to be accused of being "racist" or "nationalist" (due to their programming and social conditioning), but they also want to find a way out of the hell that their countries are becoming.

That's where many of these supposed "right-wing" parties and politicians come in. They pretend to offer a supposed return to National values & culture, and to put the brakes on the mass invasions of the home country, but in reality the funding for and media support for these organisations come from the same Cultural Marxists who promote and control the Leftists.

Very few "nationalist" or "right-wing" leaders in Western Countries are truly committed to taking back control of their countries and societies from the Globalists and Internationalists who are in power. And the ones who are, have only single-digit support and they are ostracised and criticised by even supposed "right-wingers" and "nationalist" movements.

Nachtengel
Thursday, January 18th, 2018, 08:02 AM
Yet another example:


Dimitris Avramopoulos, the European Commissioner for Migration, Home Affairs and Citizenship, recently published a startling opinion, advocating for more immigration as an inescapable reality to which European citizens should just adapt without any further discussion.

According to our Commissioner, this populism and racism has, "limited our opportunities to put in place smart, forward-looking migration policies", policies that will be thought and implemented by, guess who? The enlightened European institutions, of course.

Perhaps the saddest aspect of his article is that Avramopoulos is not a leftist or a green or even a social-democrat politician. He is from New Democracy, a right-wing party. He is the living proof how far the Left has come to dominate the intellectual landscape in European institutions and imposed its way of thinking. With "right-wing" politicians such as Angela Merkel or Avramopoulos betraying their own constituents, one should not be surprised by the rise of "populism" that they themselves so often denounce.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11698/mass-migration-european-commission

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Thursday, January 18th, 2018, 03:16 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/03/bannon-gives-democrats-ammo-with-attacks-on-trumps-family/

Steve Bannon fancies himself a modern kingmaker. There's no telling what he's all about.