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Thursday, August 11th, 2011, 03:46 PM
What’s the Big Idea?
Depending who you ask, there’s a 20 to 50 percent chance that you’re living in a computer simulation. Not like The Matrix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6qG4yn-Ps), exactly – the virtual people in that movie had real bodies, albeit suspended in weird, pod-like things and plugged into a supercomputer. Imagine instead a super-advanced version of The Sims, running on a machine with more processing power than all the minds on Earth. Intelligent design? Not necessarily. The Creator in this scenario could be a future fourth-grader working on a science project.


Oxford University philosopher Nick Bostro (http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html)m (http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html) argues that we may very well all be Sims. This possibility rests on three developments: (1) the aforementioned megacomputer. (2) The survival and evolution of the human race to a “posthuman” stage. (3) A decision by these posthumans to research their own evolutionary history, or simply amuse themselves, by creating us – virtual simulacra of their ancestors, with independent consciousnesses.

Meanwhile, in the world we know (virtual or not), some computer experts predict we’ll have such computing power by the middle of this century, though our ability to model the minds of even our most remote ancestors lags woefully behind. At present, virtualization (about:blank) technology enables us to run multiple “virtual computers” on a single computer, each with a different operating system, each completely isolated from crashes or viruses that disable the others. This will soon make Cloud-based computer processing (not just storage) possible on a massive scale. And with advanced simulation, we can perform virtual autopsies on virtual victims of virtual car crashes (http://www.advancedsimtech.com/case-studies/complex-collision-reconstruction/), or predict the devastation a magnitude 7.8 earthquake would cause in downtown Los Angeles (http://bigthink.com/ideas/38780).

Daniel Burrus (http://bigthink.com/danielburrus) is one of the world’s leading technology forecasters and business strategists. Among futurists, he has the unique distinction of having accurately predicted – in 1983 – the twenty technological developments that still drive global markets today. Burrus says the e–commerce age is over, and the v–commerce age is about to begin.


What’s The Significance?

Virtualization and advanced simulation will have an enormous, and largely invisible, impact on our lives for a long time to come. Invisibility’s kind of the point – these technologies enable us to study, experiment, explore, and take action on a global scale while minimizing or erasing altogether the physical resources we use in the process. Medical students will be able to practice heart surgery on virtual patients (http://www.meti.com/products_ps_hps.htm) before assisting in life-or-death operations. World stock exchanges will no longer require physical trading floors full of shouting people waving their hands – as a result, economic centers like New York and Tokyo may depopulate and be supplanted by “lifestyle hubs” chosen and developed for executive-class comfort.* These evolving technologies will streamline and reshape the way we do business, accelerating the integration of global markets.

New risks will accompany these changes, too. Home computers are vulnerable to viruses and malware, of course, but centralized, Cloud-based processing and storage exposes us to new risks, including large-scale data-theft (http://lifehacker.com/5325169/the-hidden-risks-of-cloud-computing) and sudden loss of access to, say, our Great American Novel-in-progress. And as we come to rely deeply on sophisticated advanced simulation, dangerous disconnects will continue to arise between our online and offline worlds. (http://bigthink.com/ideas/38969)


Friday, August 12th, 2011, 04:45 AM
Reminds me of Tipler's interpretation of the 'Omega Point (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_point)'. As well the idea that eventually, given an infinite amount of time, the processing power will be made to create the entire universe in simulation, and any time in the past could be traveled to via the emulation.

Monday, October 10th, 2011, 09:21 PM
If thats right i am played by a noob ^^

Monday, March 26th, 2012, 12:43 PM
Sorry for double posting, but i have fascinating news concerning this. If we really are a simulation, then we could find some evidence for this, couldnt we ? Well a physicist has discovered that burried deep within the formulas for string theory you find computer code :


Now just to make this clear, this is not just a string of 1´s and 0´s, that somehow resembles computer code. Its a very specific kind of computer code that actually would work on a computer : Doubly-even self-dual linear binary error-correcting block code. Basically this is used so a computer can check for errors in what you send (sometimes a 0 can become a zero during transmission and vice versa, and this computer code can discover such errors and correct them).
So this is not like seeing faces in clouds, a weird similarity without any meaning, for that it is way too specific and way too sophisticated (like discovering an exact copy of the mona lisa in the clouds with all details and colours). This is brand new, so its hard to find anything on it. You only find articles that only other experts can understand (and even they are VERY rare), though in the interview he mentions a popscience article being published in june. But the fact that the interview was made by neill de grasse tyson tells me this is not some wacko looking for attention, its legitimate scientific research, and it totally blew me away. This could be the first evidence that the universe is really a giant quantum computer (something i suspect for almost 2 decades already ^^).

Unity Mitford
Monday, March 26th, 2012, 01:56 PM
I have previously felt like a Sim :P

The Horned God
Monday, March 26th, 2012, 02:45 PM
Seems plausible. I've always felt that god had a pretty twisted sense of humor.

Tom Schnadelbach
Monday, March 26th, 2012, 03:28 PM
I have suspected this for years. And if my controller is watching this, I would be most gratified if you would put me into the Third Reich simulation as an SS Mann, about 1937. Thank you.