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OneEye
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 09:51 AM
With the brilliant decision of shutting down NASA completely in the New America, we are leaving technology out there and all the hardwork of white americans who built NASA is being forgotton.

Russia is laughing and saying, "Its our space age now."

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/22/7135160-russians-its-our-space-age-now?gt1=43001

The Horned God
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 11:22 AM
We hear this kind of thing from Russia all the time. However, if NASA was shut down it would likely be China that would take over the title of foremost nation in the exploration of space, not Russia.

In fairness, what NASA is doing is freeing up resources to build a heavy lift rocket for going to the moon or Mars. This is not the end of the U.S space program. It is just a pity that the Saturn V was "mothballed". If a heavy lift capability had been maintained, missions beyond earth orbit could have restarted again around now. As it is it will be another 7-10 years before that capability is restored.

In the meantime NASA is offering grants of $50million to private space firms like "SpaceX" to develop rockets for carrying supplies to low earth orbit.

Ingvaeonic
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 11:58 AM
We hear this kind of thing from Russia all the time. However, if NASA was shut down it would likely be China that would take over the title of foremost nation in the exploration of space, not Russia.

In fairness, what NASA is doing is freeing up resources to build a heavy lift rocket for going to the moon or Mars. This is not the end of the U.S space program. It is just a pity that the Saturn V was "mothballed". If a heavy lift capability had been maintained, missions beyond earth orbit could have restarted again around now. As it is it will be another 7-10 years before that capability is restored.

In the meantime NASA is offering grants of $50 million to private space firms like "SpaceX" to develop rockets for carrying supplies to low earth orbit.

It was sad to see the Space Shuttle program end after more than 30 years, but if it is nothing more than a re-orientation for NASA then all is not lost.

Sindig_og_stoisk
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 12:34 PM
Typical jingoistic banter from Russia...

Russia is probably not capable of assuming the leadership of the space programme.

Just a quick look at Wikipedia shows that the Russian space programme is in no shape to be foremost in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_space_agency#Problems

Hersir
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 01:38 PM
I don't belive them. I place my money on China.

Thorwald
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 02:24 PM
If Russia (or China) wants to bankrupt themselves sending probes into space, let them. We need to spend what little money we have left down here for the good of our people.

Hersir
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 02:29 PM
If Russia (or China) wants to bankrupt themselves sending probes into space, let them. We need to spend what little money we have left down here for the good of our people.

China wont bankrupt themselves, they are the fast growing economy on earth. They have unlimited workers.

Renwein
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 02:37 PM
China hasn't even sent people into space yet. Russia has decades of experience.

I think the Russians have every right to say 'it's our space age now', with the impending faliure of america. At least they're still flying the flag for europeans at the frontier, in a sense.

Ămeric
Monday, July 25th, 2011, 07:48 PM
The current situation, with no available means of launching US astronauts into space, is the fault of the Clinton & Bush administration for not preparing for this day. Trillions for waging war in the Balkans & Asia (against feudal societies( but nothing for the Space Age. :thumbdown Of course I don't expect a solution from the current Kenyan-in-chief.

Thusnelda
Tuesday, July 26th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Wernher von Braun would turn in his grave if he could see how the NASA kills the space program step by step. Now the NASA is unable to bring astronauts to the ISS, they need to ask for Sojus-moduls and spacecrafts in Moscow. :|

Naglfari
Tuesday, July 26th, 2011, 08:52 PM
Wernher von Braun would turn in his grave if could see how the NASA kills the space program step by step. Now the NASA is unable to bring astronauts to the ISS, they need to ask for Sojus-moduls and spacecrafts in Moscow. :|

Actually it is going to be done in partnership with a private corporation now. http://www.spacex.com/

http://www.nasa.gov/offices/c3po/partners/spacex/index.html is NASA's announcement

InvaderNat
Tuesday, July 26th, 2011, 10:33 PM
China hasn't even sent people into space yet. Russia has decades of experience.

Yes they have. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_space_program

Meritocrat
Wednesday, August 3rd, 2011, 02:46 AM
Wernher von Braun would turn in his grave if he could see how the NASA kills the space program step by step. Now the NASA is unable to bring astronauts to the ISS, they need to ask for Sojus-moduls and spacecrafts in Moscow. :|

Indeed he probably is turning in his grave.

BTW, has anyone else noticed that NASA started to take a step backward when those German scientists the USA kidnapped got old? I'm starting to think there was something brilliant in that generation that has been lost.

The Horned God
Wednesday, August 3rd, 2011, 05:35 PM
BTW, has anyone else noticed that NASA started to take a step backward when those German scientists the USA kidnapped got old? I'm starting to think there was something brilliant in that generation that has been lost.

It's a possibility, but I think the bigger factor is money. During Apollo the NASA budget (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA) peaked at over 4% of the U.S federal budget. As a % of GDP It has been declining pretty much ever since. Currently it accounts for only 0.6% of the U.S budget.

This level of backing is simply not sufficient to fund an equivalent speed of advancement to that seen during the 7 years following Kennedy's pledge to put a man on the moon.

Russia is not in any better shape. Their space agency receives between 1/3 to 1/2 of the NASA budget (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/04/13/uk-russia-space-idUKTRE73C36620110413) and half of that goes on maintaining a manned presence in space, so there is comparatively little left for R & D.

Erlk÷nig
Thursday, August 4th, 2011, 12:32 PM
The Ruskis charge 65 million for ferrying American astronauts to the ISS, meanwhile in true American fashion, the privatization of Low Earth orbit operations is being endorsed as a replacement to NASA.