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Edie
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 12:02 AM
I intend this thread to function doubly as a celebration of the myriad unique expressions of European/ Germanic culture honed and perfected over centuries of our people's existence, and a warning about the crass multikult alternatives which threaten to vulgarise or destroy them completely within a much shorter period of time.

Ballet/movement art

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/53/151997902_2f7011c5e0.jpg

http://www.balletwest.co.uk/images/holidayschools.jpg

Ballet is universally recognised as a uniquely European expression of physical grace and beauty in movement. Ballet classes are a staple of many girls' childhoods; the art instils in them a typically European blend of passion and control with regard to their bodies, distinct from traditionally staid Asian or vigorous African rhythms. With its cultivation of self-discipline and awareness of the minutia of creative expression in the medium, this form of dance aligns with the most highly evolved of European arts. Ballet is, in the world of dance, the pinnacle of self-mastery and physical storytelling.

The alternative

http://fashionfeen.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/christina_aguilera_dirrty.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/2495084732_dc26e7d2a2.jpg

The intrusion of alien cultures and peoples into Western lands has created a mixture of incongruous cultural values and genetic proclivities which, with a robust and youthful power, threatens to overwhelm wholly the dignified European sensibility that our art relies upon. Already we see a nascent triumph for two-dimensional sensualism and the ethos of instant gratification. The ascendancy of unrestrained brute instinct, of sheer animal rhythm has shattered the delicacy inherent in European movement and elevated an atavistic, tawdry and utterly foreign style of bodily communication to a kind of dissipated splendour.

In the European tradition, manifestations of rude emotion and desire take on refined and resplendent forms. They are the material of great art, not its ultimate articulation. What the new modes of dance and physical expression represent is the coarsening of etiquette and thereby the imperative to create beauty out of base passions. The very existence of passion and instinct becomes sufficient 'art' in a navel-gazing and hedonistic society.

In short, we run the risk of forgetting how to weave wonderful tapestries from the fabrics we have, and in the end we will all lie in rags because of it.


Everyone is welcome to contribute to this thread. We have a lot of culture to cover.

GeistFaust
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 12:17 AM
Thanks for the post it was a good one we definitely need to have structure and order to triumph over the brutishness of such degenerate forms of expression that are advocated in today's culture and it assuredly will win.

Gray
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 02:24 AM
This thread is a very good idea. Showing the merits of our quickly disappearing culture will help inspire it's preservation among us, or any other person who views this thread.

Schopenhauer
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 01:25 PM
The intrusion of alien cultures and peoples into Western lands has created a mixture of incongruous cultural values and genetic proclivities which, with a robust and youthful power, threatens to overwhelm wholly the dignified European sensibility that our art relies upon. Already we see a nascent triumph for two-dimensional sensualism and the ethos of instant gratification. The ascendancy of unrestrained brute instinct, of sheer animal rhythm has shattered the delicacy inherent in European movement and elevated an atavistic, tawdry and utterly foreign style of bodily communication to a kind of dissipated splendour.

Dopey white kids are always looking for ways to shock their parents. Aping the antics of negroes has been a time honored way of doing that since the 20s. It's nothing new really, nor should it be seen as anything like a threat to the traditional Western arts.

Edie
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 02:40 PM
Dopey white kids are always looking for ways to shock their parents. Aping the antics of negroes has been a time honored way of doing that since the 20s. It's nothing new really, nor should it be seen as anything like a threat to the traditional Western arts.

That wasn't my point. Dopey white kids' aping of negroes is just one effect of a general deterioration of the sophisticated way in which Europeans have traditionally expressed themselves. The dancing is a result of the problem, not the problem itself. That's what I was talking about in my post. The arts themselves might not be threatened -- people will always practice them -- but the spirit that created them is. Even in the traditional realms of art one can see a complete absence of any real creation; we are often presented with an ordinary thing and told that it is art just because it exists. That relies on the same kind of value subversion that is used to convince people that the 'culture enricher' deluge is a good thing, and solidarity with one's own people and traditions is bad. Eschewing the Western inheritance that disciplines us to forge something higher from base materials is our collective response to the post-modern, multiethnic, relativist cultural smog that we're all choking in.

Hilderinc
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 02:54 PM
I created a thread a while ago with a sort of related subject. The Decline of Society (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=139354).


http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Arts/Parthenon/Parthenon1.jpg
2,400 years later and how many comparable structures are being built?

http://pulsarwallpapers.com/data/media/49/The%20Coliseum%20at%20Night,%20Rome,%20I taly.jpg

http://yummyapplepies.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/img_1997.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Hohenschwangau_-_Schloss_Neuschwanstein1.jpg/800px-Hohenschwangau_-_Schloss_Neuschwanstein1.jpg

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_359/1233211173rpl0Hm.jpg

http://www.europeupclose.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/little-venice.jpg

http://www.europeupclose.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/bamberg.jpg

http://www.europeupclose.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/old-town-hall.jpg

http://0.tqn.com/d/architecture/1/0/M/P/victorian-italianate-capemay-nj-3168470.jpg

Fine architecture has been turned into god knows what...

http://www.stardust.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/modern-architecture-edmonds-lee1.jpg

http://www.trendir.com/house-design/concrete-house-2.jpg

http://www.whereislarry.com/kal016.jpg

http://www.bigwowo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/residential-suburb_san_francisco.jpg

http://unadulteratedlife.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/suburb11.jpg

It makes me physically sick when I see farm fields and forests being cleared to make room for the above.

__________


Art, which has been an expression of beauty for as long as we can trace historically, has been turned into avant-garde garbage, where the only value is shock value.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Lascaux_painting.jpg
17,300 years old and more advanced than modern art.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Venus_de_Milo_Louvre_Ma399_n4.jpg/357px-Venus_de_Milo_Louvre_Ma399_n4.jpg
Around 2,100 years old. When was the last time a great sculpture was created?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Busto_de_Carlos_V.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/David_von_Michelangelo.jpg

http://www.paintinghere.com/uploadpic/Sandro%20Botticelli/big/The%20Birth%20of%20Venus.jpg

http://www.deshow.net/d/file/cartoon/2008-10/world-famous-paintings-2-2.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Carl_Theodor_von_Piloty_Thusnelda_im_Tri umphzug_des_Germanicus.jpg

http://www.articlia.com/wallpapers/files/waterhouse_1024-769.jpg


What is this garbage?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/No._5%2C_1948.jpg
The most expensive painting in the world, worth $155 million.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Woman3.jpg
2nd most expensive, $152 million.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Suprematist_Composition_-_Kazimir_Malevich.jpg/450px-Suprematist_Composition_-_Kazimir_Malevich.jpg
$63 million.

http://www.arte.go.it/eventi/2007/images/Warhol_Andy_04.jpg
"In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes."

http://www.mnstate.edu/gracyk/images/Fountain_Stieglitz.jpg
(Yes, this is considered 'art').

http://www.caku-art.com/image-files/abstract-art.jpg

Schopenhauer
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 03:14 PM
@Hildernic: I remember this one time when I was working as a museum guard watching this couple stand in front of a Jackson Pollack at just starring in awe at it. They stood there like they were receiving some kind of diving revelation from it. It was one of the funniest things I'd ever seen. This apparently sane looking couple reduced to near idiocy by this hideous piece of crap.

By contrast, the upper floors with housed many fine masterpieces from the 1500, 1600, and 1700 centuries received very little attention from the public.

Now what I took from this was not that the aesthetic tastes of people were declining, but that there will always be a small majority of people who can appreciate true beauty compared to the masses whose taste will forever be lodged in their posteriors.

Ocko
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 04:57 PM
The destruction of Art started around the 1900's.

the last epression of fine painting was the expressionist, after that it was crap.

The last great music was maybe Strauss, after that came jazz

The last great Poet was Rilke, after that there was a poem with the lotto numbers

And so on.

With the destruction of germanic Art there goes hand in hand a quickly growing number of jewish 'artists'.

Curious isn't it?

Eppillus
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 05:44 PM
The last great music was maybe Strauss, after that came jazz

The only point I disagree with, and it's only slightly. Folk Metal, a genre of modern music, has caused an (I'll use) "Awakening" in Germanic and Celtic youth. A lot of the bands are very into history, a lot use Germanic imagery, or spark interest in it. Also there are quite a few that are ridiculous and based on fantasy, but these bands bring the people looking for strictly entertainment, opening them for latter hearing more serious bands of the genre.

2 Bands of the Genre I feel are greatly helping:

Falkenbach
Folkearth

2 I feel are nothing but fantasy but draw in listeners:

Ensiferum
Finntroll

Schopenhauer
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 07:13 PM
That wasn't my point. Dopey white kids' aping of negroes is just one effect of a general deterioration of the sophisticated way in which Europeans have traditionally expressed themselves. The dancing is a result of the problem, not the problem itself. That's what I was talking about in my post. The arts themselves might not be threatened -- people will always practice them -- but the spirit that created them is. Even in the traditional realms of art one can see a complete absence of any real creation; we are often presented with an ordinary thing and told that it is art just because it exists. That relies on the same kind of value subversion that is used to convince people that the 'culture enricher' deluge is a good thing, and solidarity with one's own people and traditions is bad. Eschewing the Western inheritance that disciplines us to forge something higher from base materials is our collective response to the post-modern, multiethnic, relativist cultural smog that we're all choking in.

First off, you're assuming that ballet, chamber/classical music, and the theater have universal appeal to all whites. They don't, nor did they ever.

Also, to say that the creative artistic spirit of the Occident is somehow threatened by jive talking negroes and gyrating Hottentots just seems weird to me. I mean did Jazz destroy Western civilization? No.

That which is noble will also remain so. Nothing can tarnish a thing that is intrinsically pure. Classical Greek thought, Roman civics, Gothic architecture, Shakespeare, Mozart, Beethoven, Wagner.. How can these treasure of Occidental thought ever be degraded by knuckledragging boneheads?

As for their degenerate "art", who cares? It's not as though anyone is being forced to look at or listen to it. So if some moronic White kids want to jump up and down like a apes, I say let them. Let them make fools of themselves, it doesn't affect me nor does it in any way affect those things which are our cultural artistic legacy.

Schopenhauer
Friday, July 22nd, 2011, 07:19 PM
The only point I disagree with, and it's only slightly. Folk Metal, a genre of modern music, has caused an (I'll use) "Awakening" in Germanic and Celtic youth. A lot of the bands are very into history, a lot use Germanic imagery, or spark interest in it. Also there are quite a few that are ridiculous and based on fantasy, but these bands bring the people looking for strictly entertainment, opening them for latter hearing more serious bands of the genre.

2 Bands of the Genre I feel are greatly helping:

Falkenbach
Folkearth

2 I feel are nothing but fantasy but draw in listeners:

Ensiferum
Finntroll

The neo-folk genre has a number of Germanic heathen types in its ranks. Bands like Death In June, Fire + Ice, Harvest Rain...

An even more extreme/virulent pro-Occident musical genre is power electronics.

Edie
Saturday, July 23rd, 2011, 12:16 PM
First off, you're assuming that ballet, chamber/classical music, and the theater have universal appeal to all whites. They don't, nor did they ever.

I don't think that is an entailment of anything that I have said, so the assumption here is not mine. Whether these things appeal to all whites is irrelevant; they embody classical European values and standards of accomplishment.


Also, to say that the creative artistic spirit of the Occident is somehow threatened by jive talking negroes and gyrating Hottentots just seems weird to me. I mean did Jazz destroy Western civilization? No.

That which is noble will also remain so. Nothing can tarnish a thing that is intrinsically pure. Classical Greek thought, Roman civics, Gothic architecture, Shakespeare, Mozart, Beethoven, Wagner.. How can these treasure of Occidental thought ever be degraded by knuckledragging boneheads?

As for their degenerate "art", who cares? It's not as though anyone is being forced to look at or listen to it. So if some moronic White kids want to jump up and down like a apes, I say let them. Let them make fools of themselves, it doesn't affect me nor does it in any way affect those things which are our cultural artistic legacy.

Again, you miss my point. Yes, we will still have our traditional arts, but they are becoming more alien and anachronistic as the Occidental values which define them are corrupted. We can play old music, admire old buildings and discuss old philosophy till the cows come home, but the whole ethos that brought them into being is no longer a driving force in Western innovation.

There has grown up in the last century a mentality of superfluous introspection and self-sabotage; indeed, it is a culture of cultural corrosion, a kind of academic commitment to tearing down the entire Western tradition and replacing it with -- what? Cultural multiplicity and the value relativism it reinforces. Modern art necessarily engages in a deliberate action to subvert, to destroy whatever establishment of its own niche. If you can destroy (or, "challenge the tradition of") art by making everything art, you abolish the discipline that underlies the art; thus, we have a culture that glorifies the sensual, a loose culture of the easy; hence the gravitation towards negro modes of being, which run utterly contrary to Western principles. The problem is not young people's occasional emulation of negroes, it is the spiritual colonisation that it represents.

Amerikanerin
Saturday, July 23rd, 2011, 01:11 PM
Thank you for all the beautiful pictures, they are a joy to the eyes. Now here's on the degeneracy in music. This:

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against this:

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Hilderinc
Saturday, July 23rd, 2011, 01:28 PM
against this:

9hZR1Ye6xg0

I think it is important to note that it is not just black music (hip-hop, rap), but things like pop music and pretty much all music.

Most 'music' these days is some auto-tuned thing written by someone other than the singer, with electronically produced (i.e. fake) sounds inserted under the singer's voice, and some horrid thumping noise placed over the singing itself. I've never heard a modern song without the thumping noise. :|




Art, which has been an expression of beauty for as long as we can trace historically, has been turned into avant-garde garbage, where the only value is shock value.

To expand on this, there is a Skadi thread called Why Beauty Matters: This Video Should Be Required for Europeans (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=135407). I posted a video (http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php?p=1075558&postcount=27) in that thread that was of a similar idea.

Schopenhauer
Saturday, July 23rd, 2011, 02:59 PM
Again, you miss my point. Yes, we will still have our traditional arts, but they are becoming more alien and anachronistic as the Occidental values which define them are corrupted. We can play old music, admire old buildings and discuss old philosophy till the cows come home, but the whole ethos that brought them into being is no longer a driving force in Western innovation.

My point was that arts like ballet, classical music, and the theater appeal to the same number of people as they always have and will. There is only a small percentage of the Occidental population are hardwired to appreciate the refined aesthetic of these things. Hip hopping humanzees are not corrupting anything. They are comic relief, nothing more.

As for the ethos responsible for the Occidents greatest achievements no longer being a driving force, I just don't see it that way. Again, these great accomplishments of Occidental art were made by great individual geniuses, they are not products of the "mob."

Also, ideas are eternal. They are not corruptible, nor are they susceptible to the ravages of ages like fads are.


There has grown up in the last century a mentality of superfluous introspection and self-sabotage; indeed, it is a culture of cultural corrosion, a kind of academic commitment to tearing down the entire Western tradition and replacing it with -- what? Cultural multiplicity and the value relativism it reinforces. Modern art necessarily engages in a deliberate action to subvert, to destroy whatever establishment of its own niche. If you can destroy (or, "challenge the tradition of") art by making everything art, you abolish the discipline that underlies the art; thus, we have a culture that glorifies the sensual, a loose culture of the easy; hence the gravitation towards negro modes of being, which run utterly contrary to Western principles. The problem is not young people's occasional emulation of negroes, it is the spiritual colonisation that it represents.

Again, what of it? There are always going to be malcontents roaming the halls of academia, so why get excited over it. It's not as though theses cultural Marxists are going to affect what either you or I believe, listen to, look at, or enjoy. Let them rant amongst themselves. They are of no consequence.

Huginn ok Muninn
Saturday, July 23rd, 2011, 03:14 PM
My point was that arts like ballet, classical music, and the theater appeal to the same number of people as they always have and will. There is only a small percentage of the Occidental population are hardwired to appreciate the refined aesthetic of these things.

And these used to be the nobility, who funded and promoted the best of us through their wealth and influence. This made the great composers and the great artists happy in their station, and they gave us more great culture. Where is this patronage now?


'Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws.' - Mayer Amschel Rothschild

Ah. Nevermind. Now we know why the definition of art has changed to crap.


Also, ideas are eternal. They are not corruptible, nor are they susceptible to the ravages of ages like fads are.

Maybe so, but in practical application, ideas are nothing without a people to cherish and espouse them.


Again, what of it? There are always going to be malcontents roaming the halls of academia, so why get excited over it. It's not as though theses cultural Marxists are going to affect what either you or I believe, listen to, look at, or enjoy. Let them rant amongst themselves. They are of no consequence.

Ahh, but you are very wrong... because power is of consequence. These cultural marxists are at the helm of television networks and publishing houses, teachers' unions and powerful lobbies that influence government. It's not a joke. It's not a game. It's deadly serious, and this is why more of our sons are like Eminem and fewer are like Beethoven. It MATTERS.

Schopenhauer
Saturday, July 23rd, 2011, 03:51 PM
And these used to be the nobility, who funded and promoted the best of us through their wealth and influence. This made the great composers and the great artists happy in their station, and they gave us more great culture. Where is this patronage now?

I would agree with you on this point. The lack of sponsorship of truly gifted artists, composers, and sculptors is truly regrettable.



Ah. Nevermind. Now we know why the definition of art has changed to crap.

The old definition has only changed if you have allowed yourself to accept the new one put forth by the cultural Marxists.



Maybe so, but in practical application, ideas are nothing without a people to cherish and espouse them.

That's what we're for, isn't it?



Ahh, but you are very wrong... because power is of consequence. These cultural marxists are at the helm of television networks and publishing houses, teachers' unions and powerful lobbies that influence government. It's not a joke. It's not a game. It's deadly serious, and this is why more of our sons are like Eminem and fewer are like Beethoven. It MATTERS.

I don't watch television, don't read "popular" books, or have any interaction with teacher's unions. None of these things affect me in any way, so they are completely powerless. So no, none of the things you've mentioned really matter to anyone capable of thinking for themselves.

As for Beethoven, he was not the product his environment. He was born a genius, just like all the other great artists of history. So worrying over the what the masses believe or respond to culturally/artistically is pointless. They are not creators, just consumers.

TXRog
Saturday, July 23rd, 2011, 04:51 PM
This is yet another depressing topic thread, but it IS a valid and relevant one full of truth.

I think alot of this seemingly rapid decline in what constitutes "art" occurred in the 1980s, when (c)Rap music first appeared on the scene.

I was working as a stagehand in my hometown of San Antonio, working on anything and everything to do with entertainment - plays, ballets, rock concerts, movies, etc.

The (c)Rap music band RUN DMC came to town and did a concert and never having heard of this type of "music" (and I use the term very loosely here), I simply could not believe this was "art."

As we have seen over the years since then gangsta rap has grown exponentially in popularity. It's misogynistic tone, glamorizing gun violence and gang activity has resulted in the creation of the "Wigger", so now it is perceived to be hip and cool if you are White but act like a Negro. I refer to it as the "Negrofication of America."

America has become obsessed with the "celebration of celebrity", and such "icons" as Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga are considered "gifted and talented individuals" (yeah right).

I do not consider myself very "cultured" when it comes to art, but I can certainly appreciate it (and do), and I will take Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Tschaikovsky and the rest of the classical composers over this modern day garbage any day - and what's more, where will Spears, Gaga and the others' music be in say 50 to 100 years?

Definitely food for thought and what REALLY constitutes and defines the meaning of TRUE "art."

Huginn ok Muninn
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 02:59 AM
The old definition has only changed if you have allowed yourself to accept the new one put forth by the cultural Marxists.

You do understand what I was saying, that the money went from being in the hands of the nobility to being mainly in the hands of the Jews, correct? So instead of the Duke of Wherever commissioning Mozart to write a symphony, you have people like the Bronfmans deciding to record and publish rap music full of testosterone while the only white artists he publishes are whining wussy boys. This fits the Jewish cultural marxist agenda of destroying the image of the European male in the minds of young, fertile women and promoting the negro.


I don't watch television, don't read "popular" books, or have any interaction with teacher's unions. None of these things affect me in any way, so they are completely powerless. So no, none of the things you've mentioned really matter to anyone capable of thinking for themselves.

This isn't about you, and it isn't about any individual, but rather the organic group which forms a society. I understand that, as one who despises collectivism, you may not accept that the group has any importance, but it certainly does. All culture is a result of group interaction, and as social creatures who depend upon one another, we need a cohesive group which expounds a common culture. Otherwise we are just primitives in a cave who have to supply everything we eat and use ourselves.


As for Beethoven, he was not the product his environment. He was born a genius, just like all the other great artists of history. So worrying over the what the masses believe or respond to culturally/artistically is pointless. They are not creators, just consumers.

If Beethoven were born today, into his common, low income background, how do you think he would use his talent and genius? He would have to work with what he found around him as the accepted culture, which today is a far lower and less-European thing than it was 200 years ago.

hyidi
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 03:10 AM
100 years ago,there would be no such thing as 'African influenced of music' IN side Europe's boundaries, only classical music. I am now afraid that African RNB music is our main culture of music in all European based countries! :thumbdown Yes, introducing other cultures has killed our inspiration for our classical music which had meaning. I am pretty sure that if we had no Africans living in our boarders,we would had been brought up with classical music as the norm (which how most Europeans see African RNB music today) Dancing was not our thing either! It's more of an African theme!

Schopenhauer
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 05:05 AM
You do understand what I was saying, that the money went from being in the hands of the nobility to being mainly in the hands of the Jews, correct? So instead of the Duke of Wherever commissioning Mozart to write a symphony, you have people like the Bronfmans deciding to record and publish rap music full of testosterone while the only white artists he publishes are whining wussy boys. This fits the Jewish cultural marxist agenda of destroying the image of the European male in the minds of young, fertile women and promoting the negro.

You seem to forget that anyone, thanks to the internet, can now upload/download any work of art they want to. No one has a monopoly on what art people can enjoy anymore, so why all the agita over rap?



This isn't about you, and it isn't about any individual, but rather the organic group which forms a society. I understand that, as one who despises collectivism, you may not accept that the group has any importance, but it certainly does. All culture is a result of group interaction, and as social creatures who depend upon one another, we need a cohesive group which expounds a common culture. Otherwise we are just primitives in a cave who have to supply everything we eat and use ourselves.

Maybe your society, not mine. Those whom I choose to associate with are not the types who are swayed by the vagaries of popular culture. The need for a group identity is simply a crutch for those incapable of achieving any degree of individualization.

As for culture it is imposed on the masses by the higher man from above, not from the gutter up.



If Beethoven were born today, into his common, low income background, how do you think he would use his talent and genius? He would have to work with what he found around him as the accepted culture, which today is a far lower and less-European thing than it was 200 years ago.[/QUOTE]

Amerikanerin
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 08:59 AM
You seem to forget that anyone, thanks to the internet, can now upload/download any work of art they want to. No one has a monopoly on what art people can enjoy anymore, so why all the agita over rap?

Maybe your society, not mine. Those whom I choose to associate with are not the types who are swayed by the vagaries of popular culture. The need for a group identity is simply a crutch for those incapable of achieving any degree of individualization.

You are a grown and intellectually mature man who can pick and choose what is beneficial for yourself. But there are children and teenagers out there who just go along with what's hip. The current trend of dumbing down the arts and culture is affecting them most of all. The majority of parents aren't too concerned with instilling a good taste into their children either. And then we get a generation that has been brought up on gangsta rap and "kill the Whitey".

Hilderinc
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 01:53 PM
I think it is important to note that it is not just black music (hip-hop, rap), but things like pop music and pretty much all music.

Most 'music' these days is some auto-tuned thing written by someone other than the singer, with electronically produced (i.e. fake) sounds inserted under the singer's voice, and some horrid thumping noise placed over the singing itself. I've never heard a modern song without the thumping noise. :|

I forgot to mention how I was surprised at how many black singers there are in pop music.

This seems to be the cool new song that all the kids like, I've heard it on the radio, TV, and at social events more times than any sane man ever should.

VUjdiDeJ0xg

There is a popular black female who also makes pop music, I can't recall her name.




I don't remember if it was a single post, or a thread, but a while ago a user wrote a post about how animated movies and Disney have gotten worse.

Cartoons used to be hand-drawn, detailed, and expressed family friendly values.

http://thisdistractedglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/Bambi2.jpg

http://movietc.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/snow-white-and-prince-charming.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Agqr0aCK7uY/TZVlf69Y0kI/AAAAAAAAAa8/nqroQVXB22o/s1600/pinocchiorerer.jpg


Compare this to modern cartoons, most of which have no details at all and are computer-rendered.

http://images.wikia.com/southpark/images/9/9d/SouthParkBoys_(Medium).jpg

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4800000/Phineas-and-Ferb-The-Fast-and-the-Phineas-agent-p-4831634-384-321.jpg

http://img.kapook.com/image/movie/PFRG_B.jpg
You didn't really think Disney would escape PC control of the media, did you?



It's always disgusting to see non-child-friendly things being put into movies that are supposed to be for children.
drShwrbyW-M
Look where Ken looks at :22, and listen to what Barbie says at :24...


I don't think I need to mention that everything on the media these days has something to do with sex or violence.

Vindefense
Sunday, July 24th, 2011, 02:53 PM
The current trend of dumbing down the arts and culture is affecting them most of all. The majority of parents aren't too concerned with instilling a good taste into their children either.

Taste is thing that must be developed and the best way to do this is to expose the youth to excellency in form. Yet it should be understood that the many will always be discouraged rather than inspired by this and very few in any age will ever aspire to mastery.

It is an outright lie that there is no excellency today and it is likely that the ones which portray the world only in degeneration see that degeneration all too evident in their own incapacity. Such a tendency leaves one imprisoned in the chains of uniformity to the extent that all appears to only be in decay. They forget that decay is only the threshold which everything must cross on the journey to rebirth and that culture is the dynamic result of this multicyclic process.