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celticviking
Wednesday, June 29th, 2011, 02:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sFmAQcekbY


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message933841/pg1



Comparison of Leonardo da Vinci's self-portrait and his Mona Lisa, based on "Mona Leo" speculation of Dr. Lillian F. Schwartz of Bell Labs: Wikipedia. Note that the two faces have little in common apart from they are both human. Note also Mona Lisa's upturned and Leonardo's downturned corners of their mouths and the deep creases in Leonardo's forehead and cheek compared with their lack in Mona Lisa's. And also Schwartz's careful avoidance of placing too much of Mona Lisa's nose on Leonardo's face when it would be even more obvious that these are two very different faces! Schwartz is deluding herself in this.]

Turin (actually it is not new-see my previous posts: Shroud News - July 2007, Shroud News - November 2007, and my 2007 series Leonardo: The Man Behind the Shroud? #1, #2, #3, #4, #5) in the Daily Mail of 30th June 2009 . My comments are in bold to distinguish my words from the article's.

Leonardo da Vinci 'faked Turin Shroud and used his own features as the face of Jesus, Daily Mail, 30th June 2009. I have no URL link to this article (which I saved when it first appeared) because the Daily Mail now diverts the original URL to another story, "Is the Turin Shroud really a self-portrait by Renaissance man, Leonardo da Vinci?" which turns the original assertion (the title of this post) into a question and now has a rebuttal by Shroud researcher John Jackson (see below).

A ground-breaking study has found the first evidence that the Turin Shroud features the face of Leonardo da Vinci, a TV documentary will reveal tomorrow. Unless Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519) invented a time machine, the face on the Shroud could not be Leonardo's because, as leading Shroud researcher Prof. John Jackson pointed out, "The earliest known record of the shroud appears on a commemorative medallion ... It clearly shows


http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2009_07_01_archive.html

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/DaVinci_MonaLisa1b.jpg


Bacchus, formerly Saint John the Baptist, is a painting in the Musée du Louvre, Paris, France, based on a drawing by the Italian Renaissance artist Leonardo da Vinci
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Bacchus_%28painting%29.jpg

St. John the Baptist
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Leonardo_da_Vinci_025.jpg

Salvator Mundi,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Salvatormundi.jpg

Gardisten
Wednesday, June 29th, 2011, 03:13 AM
The shroud has been scrutinized scientifically to the extent where there's a general consensus that the image simply could not have produced artistically. Also the issue surrounding the dating of the shroud is somewhat controversial; initially it was believed that the shroud originated in the Middle Ages, but more recently it has been determined that it is of a somewhat earlier origin.