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Monday, June 20th, 2011, 11:15 PM
Please post studies, graphs, maps, or any other data which concerns the current population make up of Germanics (population numbers, birth rate, age, genetic studies, etc.) or Germanic nations (number of immigrants, crime rates, etc.) News articles are acceptable, but the aforementioned sources are preferable.

I got the idea for this because I always see people saying "we will be a minority by 2050", but I've rarely seen a source for this—not that I don't believe it, but it's important to have concrete evidence to convince the nay-sayers and better educate ourselves on the true situation.

Also, please refrain from posting old maps (e.g. early 20th century), unless they are being used in a series showing the population change from then to now. Post-1950s population transfer maps would be acceptable, but more recent maps are of course preferable.


Here are some maps from my collection.

Islamic Population in Austria 2001.

Islam is a minority religion in Austria with 4.22 % of the population in the 2001 census. In 2010, it is estimated to be around 400,000 to 500,000 Muslims in Austria, or up to about 6% of the total population. According to a study by the Austrian Society for International Understanding, Islam is set to officially overtake Protestantism as the country's second-largest religious group by 2010.

The westernmost Bundesland Vorarlberg with its industrial small towns and villages has the highest share of Muslims in the country with 8.36 % (it resembles the neighboring north-eastern parts of Switzerland in this respect). It is followed by the capital Vienna with 7.82 %.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Austria

http://forums.skadi.net/photoplog/images/35509/1_Current_and_Former_German_Settlements_ in_the_Former_USSR.jpg
Current and Former German Settlements in the Former USSR. Map published in January 2000, it seems the data is from around 1999.


Language Map of South Tyrol 2001; German in green.


German Minority in Kazakhstan 1992, in blue. They are mostly in the north, but there is a small area in the extreme south-central.


Percentage of Households Headed by Those Aged 60 and Older - 2008 [Dark red is over 40%]

Above, two maps taken from the thread The Demise of Rural Germany (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=141030), which includes excerpts from a 4-page article.

Above taken from: Europe: Nationalist Resurgence (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=140544).

Effects of Immigration to the United States (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=139462), past, present, and future, although it isn't thoroughly sourced and includes some speculation. It includes three long posts written by me, as well as additional information from other members (namely Æmeric).

Canadian Town Known as New Iceland (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=141869), many Icelanders are moving there.

Series of Articles from The New York Times Exploring Increasing Number of Interracial Relations (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=140865); there are dozens of videos and articles in the link provided.

South Africa's White Farmers Are Moving Further North (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=140851).

I have other maps that I'll be sure to post later.

Tuesday, June 21st, 2011, 12:59 AM
Good thread, Hilderinc. I already knew many of these graphs but they still shock me everytime I look at them.

Multiculti-Cities in 2005

There are 15,3 Million people of foreign background living in Germany.
96% of all immigrants are living in western Germany and Berlin.
Cities bearing the highest amount of immigrants in contrast to the overall population:


Percentages of immigrants per federal state for children younger than 6 years.

(Source: Statistisches Bundesamt, Mikrozensus 2005, Kinder unter 6)

In general a lot of useful information can be found on the homepage of the Statistisches Bundesamt (Federal Statistical Office of Germany):

I’ll add some more tomorrow.

Tuesday, June 21st, 2011, 06:37 PM
I've noticed that most of my maps are of Germanic minorities, the intention of the thread is to include statistics from the main Germanic nations, as well.

Sorry, I like maps, don't be afraid to post other things also. :wsg


German minority in Upper Silesia, 2002.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German_Minority_Upper_Silesia.png

Polish parliamentary election, 2007 - Votes for the German Minority (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Minority_(political_party)) in Opole voivodship, total number of votes: 32462 (0,2% of all votes cast in Poland).

The German Minority party had 1.18% of the vote and 7 seats in parliament in 1991, but they have been on a steady decline since.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MniejszoscNiemiecka2007_Barry_Kent. png

German Minority in the Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, 2002.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Deutsche_Minderheit_Masuren_Ermland .png

Communes in Poland in which the additional minority names were introduced (as of 29 April 2011). As you can see from the file history, there have been many new names added within the past few years. There's an image of a bilingual sign towards the end of this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_minority_in_Poland).

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gminy_z_dodatkowymi_nazwami.png

German population density 2007.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bevölkerungsdichte.gif

Swiss population density, 2007.

Source: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:CH-population-density-2007.png

Swiss linguistic areas, 2011.

Source: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Karte_Schweizer_Sp rachgebiete_2011.png

Religion in Switzerland, 2011.

Source: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Karte_Religionen_d er_Schweiz_2011.png

Ethnic composition of Transylvania, 2002 (http://sebok1.adatbank.transindex.ro/terkep/erdely_terkep.jpg). It says there are 53,077 Germans in Transylvania out of 59,764 in all of Romania. (Map linked because it is 4500x3000).

Permafrost mentioned this (http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php?p=1095887&postcount=7) in the thread "Cool Things about This State"

My region is the only region leaded by a right-wing party (which is shit anyway, but which at least shows our different mentality), whereas the situation in the 2nd round was clearly favorable to the left (Left coalition vs Front National vs UMP).

Regional elections map in 2004 (right in blue, left in rose) :


Regional elections map in 2010 (right in blue, left in rose) :


Also, during the 2002 presidential elections, the Niederelsass was the only department where the socialists were classed 4th, behind most of the right-wing parties. And the far-right parties always get their best scores in Alsace, there's even a village where 50% of the votes went to JM Le Pen at the first round of the elections :P

Where foreign workers have settled in London, 2004-2007.

Europe population density, 2002.

Leading ethnicity by census division, 2006; Canada.

Canadian population density, 2006.

Canadian population density 2001.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/South_Africa_2001_Afrikaans_speakers_den sity_map.svg/1000px-South_Africa_2001_Afrikaans_speakers_den sity_map.svg.png
Density of Afrikaans speakers, 2001. Key is included in the source.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:South_Africa_Afrikaans_speakers_den sity_map.svg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/South_Africa_2001_Afrikaans_speakers_pro portion_map.svg/1000px-South_Africa_2001_Afrikaans_speakers_pro portion_map.svg.png
Portion of Afrikaans speakers, 2001. Key is included in the source.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:South_Africa_Afrikaans_speakers_pro portion_map.svg

Distribution of Afrikaans in Namibia.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Distribution_of_Afrikaans_in_Namibi a.png

Dialects in the Low Countries.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Languages_Benelux.PNG

California, New Mexico, Hawaii, and D.C. are over 70% 'minorities'.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/washington/01census.html

I have a few more linguistic maps and maps of the US.

Islam in the Netherlands, January 2004.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Islam_in_Netherlands.jpg

Moslems in England, 2001.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:England-subdivisions-Muslim-population-2001.png

Wednesday, June 22nd, 2011, 10:49 PM
It seems the latest census projections place whites being the minority in 2042, not 2050.

An Older and More Diverse Nation by Midcentury

The nation will be more racially and ethnically diverse, as well as much older, by midcentury, according to projections released today by the U.S. Census Bureau.

Minorities, now roughly one-third of the U.S. population, are expected to become the majority in 2042, with the nation projected to be 54 percent minority in 2050. By 2023, minorities will comprise more than half of all children.

In 2030, when all of the baby boomers will be 65 and older, nearly one in five U.S. residents is expected to be 65 and older. This age group is projected to increase to 88.5 million in 2050, more than doubling the number in 2008 (38.7 million).

Similarly, the 85 and older population is expected to more than triple, from 5.4 million to 19 million between 2008 and 2050.

By 2050, the minority population -- everyone except for non-Hispanic, single-race whites -- is projected to be 235.7 million out of a total U.S. population of 439 million. The nation is projected to reach the 400 million population milestone in 2039.

The non-Hispanic, single-race white population is projected to be only slightly larger in 2050 (203.3 million) than in 2008 (199.8 million). In fact, this group is projected to lose population in the 2030s and 2040s and comprise 46 percent of the total population in 2050, down from 66 percent in 2008.

Meanwhile, the Hispanic population is projected to nearly triple, from 46.7 million to 132.8 million during the 2008-2050 period. Its share of the nation's total population is projected to double, from 15 percent to 30 percent. Thus, nearly one in three U.S. residents would be Hispanic.

The black population is projected to increase from 41.1 million, or 14 percent of the population in 2008, to 65.7 million, or 15 percent in 2050.

The Asian population is projected to climb from 15.5 million to 40.6 million. Its share of the nation's population is expected to rise from 5.1 percent to 9.2 percent.

Among the remaining race groups, American Indians and Alaska Natives are projected to rise from 4.9 million to 8.6 million (or from 1.6 to 2 percent of the total population). The Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander population is expected to more than double, from 1.1 million to 2.6 million. The number of people who identify themselves as being of two or more races is projected to more than triple, from 5.2 million to 16.2 million.

Other highlights:
In 2050, the nation's population of children is expected to be 62 percent minority, up from 44 percent today. Thirty-nine percent are projected to be Hispanic (up from 22 percent in 2008), and 38 percent are projected to be single-race, non-Hispanic white (down from 56 percent in 2008).
The percentage of the population in the "working ages" of 18 to 64 is projected to decline from 63 percent in 2008 to 57 percent in 2050.
The working-age population is projected to become more than 50 percent minority in 2039 and be 55 percent minority in 2050 (up from 34 percent in 2008). Also in 2050, it is projected to be more than 30 percent Hispanic (up from 15 percent in 2008), 15 percent black (up from 13 percent in 2008) and 9.6 percent Asian (up from 5.3 percent in 2008).


Minority populations have often been undercounted in past censuses.


15 August 2008
U.S. Minorities Will Be the Majority by 2042, Census Bureau Says

Report sees quicker growth, more diversity; Hispanics fastest-growing group

Washington -- By the middle of the century, the population of the United States will be larger and more racially and ethnically diverse than earlier projections suggested, with much of the increase due to immigration.

By 2042, minorities, collectively, are projected to make up more than 50 percent of the U.S. population, the Census Bureau said August 14.

Among the nation’s children, the trend is even more pronounced: by 2023, more than half will belong to a minority racial or ethnic group, the Census Bureau said. By 2050, this will jump to 62 percent (compared to 44 percent today).

The Census Bureau predicts a faster-growing and more diverse population than it did previously. In 2000, the bureau projected a population of around 404 million for the year 2050, with minorities accounting for 47 percent. In 2004, the projection jumped to around 420 million and almost 50 percent minorities.

Non-Hispanic whites are currently 66 percent of the U.S. population and are projected to be 46 percent in 2050. Today non-Hispanic whites are in the minority in four states -- Hawaii, New Mexico, California and Texas -- and the District of Columbia (Washington, the nation’s capital). (See “U.S. Minority Population Continues to Grow.” (http://www.america.gov/st/diversity-english/2008/May/20080513175840zjsredna0.1815607.html))

Immigration is playing a leading role in both the growth and changing composition of the U.S. population, points out the Pew Research Center. It finds that immigrants and their descendants will account for 82 percent of the projected population increase from 2005 to 2050.

The 2000 census was the first in which people could identify themselves as belonging to two or more races. By 2050, the number of people classified as mixed race is projected to more than triple, from 5.2 million to 16.2 million.


• Nearly one in five Americans (19%) will be an immigrant in 2050, compared with one in eight (12%) in 2005. By 2025, the immigrant, or foreign born, share of the population will surpass the peak during the last great wave of immigration a century ago.

• The major role of immigration in national growth builds on the pattern of recent decades, during which immigrants and their U.S.-born children and grandchildren accounted for most population increase. Immigration's importance increased as the average number of births to U.S.-born women dropped sharply before leveling off.

• The Latino population, already the nation's largest minority group, will triple in size and will account for most of the nation's population growth from 2005 through 2050. Hispanics will make up 29% of the U.S. population in 2050, compared with 14% in 2005.

• Births in the United States will play a growing role in Hispanic and Asian population growth; as a result, a smaller proportion of both groups will be foreign-born in 2050 than is the case now.

• The non Hispanic white population will increase more slowly than other racial and ethnic groups; whites will become a minority (47%) by 2050.

• The nation's elderly population will more than double in size from 2005 through 2050, as the baby boom generation enters the traditional retirement years. The number of working age Americans and children will grow more slowly than the elderly population, and will shrink as a share of the total population.

The Center's projections are based on detailed assumptions about births, deaths and immigration levels--the three key components of population change. All these assumptions are built on recent trends. But it is important to note that these trends can change. All population projections have inherent uncertainties, especially for years further in the future, because they can be affected by changes in behavior, by new immigration policies, or by other events. Nonetheless, projections offer a starting point for understanding and analyzing the parameters of future demographic change.




Immigration Gumballs Video (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=1044689), Skadi thread.

Numbers USA (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/), Roy Beck's website.

Numbers USA Youtube Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/NumbersUSA).

Has this scared any of you into taking more (or any) action against this? I sure hope so.