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Offa of Angel
Friday, March 4th, 2011, 09:03 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angles


The Angles is a modern English word for a Germanic-speaking people who took their name from the ancestral cultural region of Angeln, a district located in Schleswig-Holstein, Germany. The Angles were one of the main groups that settled in Britain in the post-Roman period, founding several of the kingdoms of Anglo-Saxon England, and their name is the root of the name "England".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2b/Angles_saxons_jutes.png/250px-Angles_saxons_jutes.png

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rmhttp/schools/primaryhistory/images/anglo_saxons/who_were_the_anglo-saxons/anglo-saxon_map.jpg

Balders gate
Friday, March 4th, 2011, 09:10 PM
All you ever hear about in the united states is the saxons or anglo-saxons but never the angles by themselves. How come ? Did the saxons accomplish more than the Angles or is saxon a cool name.:D

Balders gate
Friday, March 4th, 2011, 09:11 PM
I forgot about the jutes!!

Offa of Angel
Friday, March 4th, 2011, 09:19 PM
All you ever hear about in the united states is the saxons or anglo-saxons but never the angles by themselves. How come ? Did the saxons accomplish more than the Angles or is saxon a cool name.:D

The Saxons and their kings were more dominant then the Angles in shaping modern England. It was the saxons who founded Wessex, Essex, Sussex and other important kingdoms. Saxon kings like Alfred also defeated the Normans at the battle of Hasting.

The Jutes on the other hand dominated England for quite a while as England and Denmark were one Kingdom.

Loyalist
Friday, March 4th, 2011, 09:26 PM
The saxons and their kings were more dominant then the Angles in shaping modern England. It was the saxons who founded Wessex, Essex, Sussex and other important kingdoms. Saxon kings like Alfred also defeated the Normans at the battle of Hasting.

The Jutes on the other hand dominated England for quite a while as England and Denmark were one Kingdom.

The Saxons were certainly more prominent in a historical sense, but I am interested to know if that was disproportionate to their numbers. Looking at the map, and other like it, the Angles seem to have settled a much larger area of England than the Saxons and Jutes. Additionally, we have often discussed the Anglo-Saxons who settled in the Scottish Lowlands, who were evidently more Angle than Saxon. Is it safe to say, then, that the Angles had a larger genetic impact on the English than the other groups?

Offa of Angel
Friday, March 4th, 2011, 09:39 PM
The Saxons were certainly more prominent in a historical sense, but I am interested to know if that was disproportionate to their numbers. Looking at the map, and other like it, the Angles seem to have settled a much larger area of England than the Saxons and Jutes. Additionally, we have often discussed the Anglo-Saxons who settled in the Scottish Lowlands, who were evidently more Angle than Saxon. Is it safe to say, then, that the Angles had a larger genetic impact on the English than the other groups?

The actual numbers of saxons and angles having settled is unknown. There is an estimate of 10000-200000 saxons having left the continent for Britain in the 5th century. I don't know any estimate of the number of angles but I assume it was less than that. But I also believe that the angles populated larger areas of todays Britain.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Central_Europe_5th_Century.jpg/800px-Central_Europe_5th_Century.jpg

Ĉmeric
Friday, March 4th, 2011, 10:14 PM
The Saxons were certainly more prominent in a historical sense, but I am interested to know if that was disproportionate to their numbers. Looking at the map, and other like it, the Angles seem to have settled a much larger area of England than the Saxons and Jutes. Additionally, we have often discussed the Anglo-Saxons who settled in the Scottish Lowlands, who were evidently more Angle than Saxon. Is it safe to say, then, that the Angles had a larger genetic impact on the English than the other groups?

The Angles settled a larger area but the southern region may have been more densely populated. Until the 18th century & the industrial revolution the greater part of England's people lived in the South & the Midlands. The modern conurbations that contain so much of England's population (Greater Manchester, Merseyside, Tynemouth etc..) didn't exist before the industrial revolution.