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Elessar
Thursday, September 9th, 2010, 02:29 AM
Why is nearly every post on here Race related?

This is a Germanic forum, not Romanesque, Latin, Slavic, Afro-Asiatic, or... am I at the wrong place?

Thusnelda
Thursday, September 9th, 2010, 07:40 PM
The board is what the users make of it. Sure, we from the staff enforce the rules and steer the course but the users are responsible for the content to a large part. Honestly spoken, me too thinks that the focus on purely Germanic issues is quite low right now. :| Yet typical "race talk" is not against our board rules. All Germanics are Whites but not all Whites are Germanic. Many Whites in the US are European and of Germanic heritage, but not all.

So to put it in a nutshell, I don´t like the current strong focus on race talk ("What do you like about Blacks? Are they better at sports?" or "Are Asians more intelligent?" etc.) but it´s not against our board rules. I´d love to see more Germanic-centered topics but the demand for race-talk seems to be high at some parts of our membership. Unless we change our rules and banish the race-talkers there´s not much we can do. But be ensured that the staff already interferes in a regular way when it´s getting too lowbrow or too off-topic.

Wulfram
Thursday, September 9th, 2010, 07:54 PM
"Race talk' is a way to let off a little steam. Besides, I hardly think that those who participate (myself included) are anywhere near as bad as what you can read at Stormfront.
I have noticed that those who are reluctant to race talk are usually the ones who do not have to live near or among other races.

I celebrate Germanic culture, yes. But I can't allow myself to imagine that everything is just peachy. We need occasional reminders that this world is messed up and that something needs to be done about it. The difference between us and Stormfront is that we say it with a bit more imagination. ;)

SaxonPagan
Thursday, September 9th, 2010, 08:08 PM
Why is nearly every post on here Race related?

I wasn't aware that this was the case :confused

SaxonCeorl
Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 07:27 AM
I think what causes a fair amount of non-Germanic talk is that many people are drawn to this forum because they 1.) are Eurocentric and/or interested in pan-European culture and 2.) don't want to associate with the uneducated, aimless, and violent vitriol spewed at Strormfront. As far as I know, this forum is the closest thing on the web to being an intelligent, peaceful pan-European forum. The fact that its purpose is specifically Germanic people and culture isn't enough to deter them. Personally, I'm fine with this and, in some ways, am one of the people I just described.

VitkiValkyrie
Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 02:19 PM
I often post on race-related topics, for i live in a country where the survival of my people is threatened by racial others. Since Germanics as a whole have a lot to lose if we don't recognise threats to our racial integrity, i think such posts are valuable.

The Aesthete
Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 03:07 PM
The deterioration of Germanic culture is inextricably tied to the deterioration of our race

Florian Geyer
Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 03:13 PM
The sub heading of Skadi is "Germanic Cultural, Racial and Spiritual Preservation". I believe that your answer lies there, it is what Skadi is about in my opinion. A lot of people who are interested in Germanic culture are racially aware and because of the way things are in Germanic countries at present, have a right to feel under siege. Those that don't, probably live in a country where large numbers of non Germanics have lived for a long time such as the USA.

In 43 years my own country has gone from being almost exclusively white to being unrecognisable in some parts, where the once dominant English are now non existent. I like Skadi because I am amongst people who can empathise with my fears for the future.

Having said that, I believe that Skadi covers a plethora of different subjects. Though race is a hot topic, it is not nearly every post.

wittwer
Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 03:16 PM
This is but a hangover from the Nazi period. Where everything, at least in the Media's eye, was Racially motivated. And so, the new generations mind set has been developed and dominated by this and so think that in order to discuss Germanics, race is the only topic or any other topic is colored by it. It has become it's "Raison d'etre" so to speak. At least in Europe and North America. As for South Africa and the environs, this is a different issue, where Racial Politics and Economics is the daily fare and constant reality.

Elessar
Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 06:29 PM
thank you all, it wasn't my intention to sound demeaning or frontal, but it's all I see when I look at the new thread boards.

I find race and genetics interesting nonetheless.

Zogbot
Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 06:44 PM
It's probably because everything is race related. Just a guess.

Elessar
Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 08:10 PM
It's probably because everything is race related. Just a guess.

Enlighten me.

Joe McCarthy
Saturday, September 11th, 2010, 11:50 PM
I don't mind the emphasis on race. It's one of the reasons I'm here. If there is a problem it's the general lack of in depth political emphasis leading to the discussion of realistic solutions. What passes for political discussion here is often throwback odes to the Third Reich, as if the politics of the 1930s can be applied now. There also seems to be something of an over-emphasis on taxonomy and classification which in my view does little to help us find solutions to our race problem.

Still, Skadi is a good forum, and one of the main reasons it is is because of the level of civility. Having posted at a number of places where politeness was non-existent, I probably appreciate just basic decency more than I ordinarily would.

Old Winter
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 12:29 AM
Sign of the times, the anti-racialists claim that race do not exist yet they base every law on race, we react on it.

In different time periods (also the christian one) we where not under racial attack, this time we are, so that is why we talk about it allot.

Northern Paladin
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 12:54 AM
It's important to discuss how other European races compare to Germanic people, after all we have to live with them.

Elessar
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 12:59 AM
Sign of the times, the anti-racialists claim that race do not exist yet they base every law on race, we react on it.

In different time periods (also the christian one) we where not under racial attack, this time we are, so that is why we talk about it allot.

Yeah, I understand the importance of recognizing and becoming aware of your and others race in modern days, I understand fully what's happening in Europe with immigration and whatnot, and it makes me angry too, but what is sitting here talking about it going to do?

Northern Paladin
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 01:11 AM
Yeah, I understand the importance of recognizing and becoming aware of your and others race in modern days, I understand fully what's happening in Europe with immigration and whatnot, and it makes me angry too, but what is sitting here talking about it going to do?

Yes, good point, what we have to do is REALLY strive to be better than the aliens, not get corrupted, be independent of the Jews who run everything. We must take back our ethnic integrity, and that means standing up for ourselves one European at a time.

SpearBrave
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 03:00 AM
Why is nearly every post on here Race related?

This is a Germanic forum, not Romanesque, Latin, Slavic, Afro-Asiatic, or... am I at the wrong place?

While many of them are, we do have quite a few threads and topics that are not. Sure some of them seem trivial, but are they really because it is sometimes trivial things that establish thought patterns.;)

Personally I would like to see more threads on culture and less threads on racial bashing. We all know what the problems are, so lets try and do a better job of preserving the good points of our culture.

As members you can create threads on any number or topics related to Germanics. That way we can all learn from one another. Not to mention it attracts new members that are only mildly interested in our culture. From there it can grow outside of this board.

The Aesthete
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 07:13 AM
Hopefully enlighten the masses about what is happening and going to happen if the status quo continues. Maybe it may inspire them to speak up or involve themselves in a nationalist political party etc.

I am against race bashing I think discussion should be objective and avoid racial slurs; this should garner us more of a following.


Multiracialism pervades almost everything today; our culture is being misappropriated as that of others all too often.

Remember culture is a product of a people :)

Zogbot
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 07:44 AM
What passes for political discussion here is often throwback odes to the Third Reich, as if the politics of the 1930s can be applied now.

Why can't they? Because magical jews told you the NAZIS! were eeeeeevil?

SpearBrave
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 11:56 AM
Why can't they? Because magical jews told you the NAZIS! were eeeeeevil?


^ No it really has nothing to do with what a jew says or does.:|

Sure I don't like the influence and attempted destruction the jews have had on our culture, but should we let them remain our only focus while the rest of our culture is destroyed and forgotten.

To me National Socialism is just a blink of the eye compared to the long history of the Germanic people. Should we let 13 or so years domanate over 40,000 years of history and culture.

Wittmann
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 12:00 PM
^ No it really has nothing to do with what a jew says or does.:|

Sure I don't like the influence and attempted destruction the jews have had on our culture, but should we let them remain our only focus while the rest of our culture is destroyed and forgotten.

To me National Socialism is just a blink of the eye compared to the long history of the Germanic people. Should we let 13 or so years domanate over 40,000 years of history and culture.
No, of course not, Rome did in a few hundred years what Hitler did in a year though. They accomplished so much in those 12 years, I wish I was alive then, I could have made a difference...

SpearBrave
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 01:15 PM
No, of course not, Rome did in a few hundred years what Hitler did in a year though. They accomplished so much in those 12 years, I wish I was alive then, I could have made a difference...

Skadi Forums is not solely about discussions on National Socialism, Hitler, The Third Reich, WWII, Jews, or the Holocaust. All of those things are like I said a blink of the eye in the larger scope of Germanic cultural studies.

If you believe that those topics should dominate all of our discussions then perhaps you are at the wrong forum.;)

StormjaerKommando
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 01:46 PM
Yeah, I understand the importance of recognizing and becoming aware of your and others race in modern days, I understand fully what's happening in Europe with immigration and whatnot, and it makes me angry too, but what is sitting here talking about it going to do? Yes, I agree we should take a more proactive stance, mail every string puller in the US government some Anthrax, or hack the big banking families' accounts or something. You get first 'dibs' thought seeing as you’re closest. :D IMO race talk is best applied to those who really need it, like ZOG/NWO sheep (come on, they are all around us), it is time they started acknowledging the Elephant in the room and grow a spine while they are at it...

Jäger
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 04:31 PM
Enlighten me.
Culture is made by men, men are of race.


If there is a problem it's the general lack of in depth political emphasis leading to the discussion of realistic solutions.
A strategically coarsely outlined plan has been presented on this forum, but to actually make it happen, it needs a tighter community effort than this Internet forum could possibly provide.


... but what is sitting here talking about it going to do?
Articulating your thoughts, and defending them from attacks of others makes you rethink them and helps to shape your conviction.

Elessar
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 07:55 PM
You get first 'dibs' thought seeing as you’re closest. :D

I live in northern Idaho, check a map and see its proximity to Wall Street and DC.



Articulating your thoughts, and defending them from attacks of others makes you rethink them and helps to shape your conviction.

And at the current rate, that's all that's ever going to happen.

Æmeric
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 09:28 PM
Why is nearly every post on here Race related?Not nearly every post at Skadi is race related.


This is a Germanic forum, not Romanesque, Latin, Slavic, Afro-Asiatic, or... am I at the wrong place?It is a forum for people of Germanic descent.

But as to why there many race-related posts at Skadi: In the real world the West, including the living areas of Germanics, is under assault. How can we discuss immigration without bringing up the race angle? Or politicas. Thanks to the various goverments & national medias, race & multiculturalism has infected every part of contemporary life, from Central Europe to North America to Australia. White men are bad, White history is the story of the oppression & exploitation of non-Europeans, diversity will make us better, immigration is a natural phenomenom that cannot be reverse & the solution to all that ails humanity is globalism with all of mankind living under liberal democracy & open borders.

Now maybe you would be happier discussing Asartu & which region of Germany makes the best beer but that would just be sticking your head in the sand and in the longterm does nothing to promote the preservation of Germanic peoples or cultures.

Elessar
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 10:07 PM
Not nearly every post at Skadi is race related.

I'm talking about the new thread links. I realize there are topics presented that have nothing to with different races.



Now maybe you would be happier discussing Asartu & which region of Germany makes the best beer but that would just be sticking your head in the sand and in the longterm does nothing to promote the preservation of Germanic peoples or cultures.

Acting to Preserve ones culture and actually living ones culture are two separate things.
Very simply put, it's like being in a club where nobody's participating in club activities, rather talking about how the club is disintegrating and under threat all the time.
Again, very simply put.

Ullrson
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 10:11 PM
Eventually the current farce is going to disintegrate. The left and right will become both hated and irrelevant. Its already beginning, you have to live in a sheltered fantasy land to not see this. When this happens, we need to be able to argue our ideas with conviction and facts in order to lead our people forward. I think of us as the vanguard, or as shamans. When our people are finally ready, by the gods we will need to be as well. In the meantime I perform covert information warfare operations, aka I point out flaws in the logic of the modern world and how awesome the founding fathers where and other fun history stuff while posing as a 'moderate' conservative intellectual.

In regard for the high opinions of national socialism found here, I recommend that we look at that era as I do the vikings, we should aim to copy their essence, not their form. The third reich was philosophicaly and technologicaly forward looking as where the vikings, instead of clinging to the past they looked to the past for inspiration. Rehabilitating the third reich is a desirable goal but it will take a lot of time, and rehabilitation is a far cry from romantisizing and worship.

Jäger
Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 11:18 PM
And at the current rate, that's all that's ever going to happen.
It is a prerequisite to act, there is no logical conclusion which follows your fear. The reasons why many won't act at all (or maybe will, but ineffectively) is not due to this forum participation and the lack of inciting and idea giving posts in it.

Thorburn
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 12:12 AM
Still, Skadi is a good forum, and one of the main reasons it is is because of the level of civility. Having posted at a number of places where politeness was non-existent, I probably appreciate just basic decency more than I ordinarily would. Thanks for having said that.

I'm totally with you. I despise nothing more than rudeness and vileness. The deterioration of our language and manners is one of the symptoms of our cultural decline. The English term gentleman (as opposed to the dregs of society) still preserves this important aspect:

gentle
early 13c., from O.Fr. gentil "high-born, noble," from L. gentilis "of the same family or clan," from gens (gen. gentis) "race, clan," from root of gignere "beget" (see kin), from PIE base *gen- "produce." Sense of "gracious, kind" (now obsolete) first recorded late 13c.; that of "mild, tender" is 1550s. Older sense remains in gentleman.

[Source (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=gentle)]

Mouse Shadow
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 12:55 AM
I'm talking about the new thread links. I realize there are topics presented that have nothing to with different races.
Acting to Preserve ones culture and actually living ones culture are two separate things.
Very simply put, it's like being in a club where nobody's participating in club activities, rather talking about how the club is disintegrating and under threat all the time.
Again, very simply put.

Guess what?

Some of us work covertly. ;)

Whoops! :D

Elessar
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 01:00 AM
Guess what?

Some of us work covertly. ;)

Whoops! :D


I still have yet to see the product of your labor.

Mouse Shadow
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 01:03 AM
I still have yet to see the product of your labor.

And you will never see it. :D

Elessar
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 01:06 AM
And you will never see it. :D

Ergo, no difference made.

Mouse Shadow
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 01:11 AM
Ergo, no difference made.

You do know what covert means don't you?

Elessar
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 01:13 AM
covert =/= progress
oooh~ guerrilla internet warfare!

Mouse Shadow
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 01:25 AM
covert =/= progress
oooh~ guerrilla internet warfare!

On the contrary. I have found Skadi an excellent resource to further my knowledge of how one needs to bring about change.

Trouble is, there is a disgusting spew cloud in the world designed purposefully to protect it's sociopathic ass from being found out.

Only whingers and whiners complain others who want to do something.

Guess what, this place is full of highly intelligent INTJ's. People with large insights and knowledge. Just like Newton.

Assembly of the components, mapping out of strategies and putting in a few surprises is all part of the covert game.

If one really wants to help bring about change, one only need to glean knowledge from this site. But it isn't the whole picture.

Strategies take time, and clever ones need to cover all sides. Especially now that wars are fought 100% psychologically.

I'm just hoping for maximum impact. Do you honestly believe the most clever, cunning and resourceful white European race is doomed to die out? Fortunatley, this Skadi website brings us to the core issues of why we are losing ground.

When you can define a problem, you can defeat it. Without this place and it's collected knowledge and opinions, we perhaps wouldn't have a chance, let alone know about the problem facing our race.

So why are you here then? Just come to bitch about people who are doing something?

Waldstein
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 01:26 AM
There are many possible answers to the initial question (provided the assumption contained in it is correct):

1. Race, as a part of the realm of nature, is the basis of culture, of ethnical groups, hence of Germanic culture as well. Structure and form of cultural phenomena depend upon the biological substrate of its creators, and said substrate is, to put it in a simplifying but not too simplifying way, race. If we lose the substrate of the most developed groups of mankind, not only the groups concerned are the losers, but mankind as a whole.

2. Because of the reasons stated above, race is a clue to the understanding of many - not all - phenomena that are vital to be understood by Germanics and mankind as a whole if we want to survive.

3. The term "race" has been discredited for a long time by the cultural-marxist propaganda. You are - under so called "civilised" people - not even allowed to take the word race into your mouth if you want to avoid almost immediate excommunication from the community of the decent, the good and the righteous. So it's important to make discussions including the term "race" - understood in a correct manner - possible again in a not too distant future.

Elessar
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 01:34 AM
Then you just sit in your comfy armchair while the world falls about you :)
being clever, cunning and resourceful means getting off your ass and doing something. (courteous, nice, and lady-like certainly aren't one of your Germanic virtues)


But I digress!
If we want to bash eachother, let's do so in another manner :)

Mouse Shadow
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 02:34 AM
Then you just sit in your comfy armchair while the world falls about you :)
being clever, cunning and resourceful means getting off your ass and doing something. (courteous, nice, and lady-like certainly aren't one of your Germanic virtues)


But I digress!
If we want to bash eachother, let's do so in another manner :)

As a matter of fact, I just sent part of a large doco, one of several that will change the fate of the world. :) 2 minutes ago.

I don't sit in comfy armchairs, I have to lay in bed with a broken ankle currently. But at least my mind is never, ever, ever, off the job of saving our people. For, it might even be 'profitable' to do so. Hee Hee.

I get the impression you only want results, trouble is, so do I, but posting your methods on line gives your enemy time to dissect it and counter it. Do I look like the type that needs to go down 'that' route?

Yes I have little tolerance for fools, idiots, squealers, whingers, bitches, wannabees, black people, spews, etc, etc. Just like all INTJ's.

Oh and one last thing, you like to paint a negative picture of the world falling down around people. Of course it is, but that 'negative thought' process is infectious to others. How do you think the spews brain farm you so easily. Get a spine! Grow some nuts.

Hey, I can't help if I a rude, crude Aussie chick. It's where I grew up, culturally, heaven on Earth, Far North Queensland. Whitey paradise once. We're all tough in the tropics.

So, no more negativitey from you ok, it's very un-Germanic :)

Elessar
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 02:48 AM
As a matter of fact, I just sent part of a large doco, one of several that will change the fate of the world. :) 2 minutes ago.

I don't sit in comfy armchairs, I have to lay in bed with a broken ankle currently. But at least my mind is never, ever, ever, off the job of saving our people. For, it might even be 'profitable' to do so. Hee Hee.

I get the impression you only want results, trouble is, so do I, but posting your methods on line gives your enemy time to dissect it and counter it. Do I look like the type that needs to go down 'that' route?

Yes I have little tolerance for fools, idiots, squealers, whingers, bitches, wannabees, black people, spews, etc, etc. Just like all INTJ's.

Oh and one last thing, you like to paint a negative picture of the world falling down around people. Of course it is, but that 'negative thought' process is infectious to others. How do you think the spews brain farm you so easily. Get a spine! Grow some nuts.

Hey, I can't help if I a rude, crude Aussie chick. It's where I grew up, culturally, heaven on Earth, Far North Queensland. Whitey paradise once. We're all tough in the tropics.

So, no more negativitey from you ok, it's very un-Germanic :)

But I digress!
If we want to bash eachother, let's do so in another manner

Insults won't get you very far, "rude, crude, aussie chick"

Wittmann
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 03:59 AM
Skadi Forums is not solely about discussions on National Socialism, Hitler, The Third Reich, WWII, Jews, or the Holocaust. All of those things are like I said a blink of the eye in the larger scope of Germanic cultural studies.

If you believe that those topics should dominate all of our discussions then perhaps you are at the wrong forum.;)

Well no, of course not, but the point of my post was that the importance of National Socialism to our people group should not be under-estimated.

SpearBrave
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 04:48 AM
@ Mouse Shadow and Walhalla-Wacht

Kids, behave yourselves or we will be forced to break out the fire hose.:D

The Aesthete
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 07:51 AM
When there are less true left Germanics our culture will weaken.

Swedish Midsummer advertised with this:

http://www.racialcompact.com/skansen99.JPG

Is this true to our culture?

Dress is considered cultural so why is not race?

Scrooge
Monday, September 13th, 2010, 09:01 AM
Speaking out of a South African point of view, everything in this envolves around race. Unfortunately that is the fact that we must face every day of our lifes. Our so called "whiteys" are over shadowed. We are a few "Boere" that are trying our best, with little support, to make life easy for those who stand for their inherritance, beliefs and culture. So ya, here it all goes about race.

Elessar
Tuesday, September 14th, 2010, 01:27 AM
@ Mouse Shadow and Walhalla-Wacht

Kids, behave yourselves or we will be forced to break out the fire hose.:D

She started it!
;)

Sigurd
Tuesday, September 14th, 2010, 01:52 AM
She started it! ;)

...and you're the man and should be the clever one and bear it with dignity. :wsg

hyidi
Tuesday, September 14th, 2010, 02:01 AM
Why Is Nearly Every Post on Here Race Related?
Cause we are trying to work out how to avoid a Germanic European distinction in the Human race.

Elessar
Tuesday, September 14th, 2010, 03:53 AM
...and you're the man and should be the clever one and bear it with dignity. :wsg

touché

Aeternitas
Thursday, September 16th, 2010, 03:25 PM
Race is a taboo topic in society as long as it involves a pro-Germanic stance, otherwise racial topics get shoved down our throats on a regular basis, despite being repeatedly told that there is no such thing as race. For something that doesn't exist, race is a card played quite too often. Obama's election comes to mind, him being "the first African-American president", blacks voting for him just cause he's black; the hype about Ghana at the World Cup, blacks from other countries supporting it cause of being African, despite not knowing much else about it; the holding of anti-racism banners, which I doubt would have been held as a sign of empathy towards a white team, and so on. Someone putting an emphasis on white/European/Germanic would instead be met with hostility and have epithets such as "racist" or "nazi" thrown at them, if not face some form of reprimand.

On Skadi, the atmosphere is much more relaxed and this is, I guess, why people find it comfortable to voice their thoughts regarding race. That and the fact that they are among other like-minded people.

As to what such discussions could achieve, I don't think anyone is so naive to think that writing here will rid their nations of the problems they are facing today. But it is also no reason to censor themselves. "Race related" discussions are not entirely useless, in that they could inform the uninformed and let them draw their own conclusions. Some of the news discussed here involving race either get ignored by the mainstream news sources, are given little space/attention or have details omitted (such as the background of perpetrators for example, when they are ethnics). Meanwhile, stories about racist incidents against ethnics get full coverage.

The most a board like Skadi can do is reach out to people, attract them into discussions and integrate them in the community. Their experience here could either strengthen their views or change them (hopefully, for the better). From there, what could happen is a slow but sure gradual change in their lives towards an ethnic/national consciousness.

Elessar
Thursday, September 16th, 2010, 05:41 PM
Race is a taboo topic in society as long as it involves a pro-Germanic stance, otherwise racial topics get shoved down our throats on a regular basis, despite being repeatedly told that there is no such thing as race. For something that doesn't exist, race is a card played quite too often. Obama's election comes to mind, him being "the first African-American president", blacks voting for him just cause he's black; the hype about Ghana at the World Cup, blacks from other countries supporting it cause of being African, despite not knowing much else about it; the holding of anti-racism banners, which I doubt would have been held as a sign of empathy towards a white team, and so on. Someone putting an emphasis on white/European/Germanic would instead be met with hostility and have epithets such as "racist" or "nazi" thrown at them, if not face some form of reprimand.

On Skadi, the atmosphere is much more relaxed and this is, I guess, why people find it comfortable to voice their thoughts regarding race. That and the fact that they are among other like-minded people.

As to what such discussions could achieve, I don't think anyone is so naive to think that writing here will rid their nations of the problems they are facing today. But it is also no reason to censor themselves. "Race related" discussions are not entirely useless, in that they could inform the uninformed and let them draw their own conclusions. Some of the news discussed here involving race either get ignored by the mainstream news sources, are given little space/attention or have details omitted (such as the background of perpetrators for example, when they are ethnics). Meanwhile, stories about racist incidents against ethnics get full coverage.

The most a board like Skadi can do is reach out to people, attract them into discussions and integrate them in the community. Their experience here could either strengthen their views or change them (hopefully, for the better). From there, what could happen is a slow but sure gradual change in their lives towards an ethnic/national consciousness.

Very well put, thank you.
I also noticed the idiocy of "anti-racism" rhetoric during world cup.
(Ghana never had a chance)

Sigurd
Thursday, September 16th, 2010, 06:17 PM
(Ghana never had a chance)

They did ... all they had to do was to score that 122nd minute penalty. But - the ball hit the crossbar. Racist, White, English manufacturers of football goals, why would they be a ridiculous measure of 8 feet or 2,44m instead of the much more rational 2,50m. :wsg

(Though as a former football goalkeeper I agree with the racist makers of those goals ... 2,44m is more than enough; it gives keepers like me who only measure 186cm a bit of a chance. :P)

Elessar
Thursday, September 16th, 2010, 06:24 PM
They did ... all they had to do was to score that 122nd minute penalty. But - the ball hit the crossbar. Racist, White, English manufacturers of football goals, why would they be a ridiculous measure of 8 feet or 2,44m instead of the much more rational 2,50m. :wsg

(Though as a former football goalkeeper I agree with the racist makers of those goals ... 2,44m is more than enough; it gives keepers like me who only measure 186cm a bit of a chance. :P)

Well....I didn't want to move on nevertheless :P
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Hawx
Thursday, September 16th, 2010, 07:57 PM
Why does a person expect me to see their ancestors, their family, as being as important to me as my own ancestors, my own family????? A racist is someone who defines things in racial terms, they define me in racial terms, they call me a racist.

Witta
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 09:59 AM
In an ideal world other races would be of little consequence to us. But as it stands other races are colonising Germanic lands and even becoming a majority in our lands while their homelands remain 100% homogenous.

Mouse Shadow
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 10:11 AM
I think it's all about race, simply because we adore our kids and love our people.

We are fantastically gifted intellectually, physically, creatively, artistically and culturally.

However, just about every other race is jealous of us, and openly, brutally enforces their culture over the top of ours, take our lands and homes or blatantly wipe us out. (Actually, make that, every race is jealous of us, I forgot the japs fawn over golden haired Euro’s)

Why shouldn't Skadi be about race? Our race made Skadi in the first place! And all the things that came before it.

Miserable sub evovled freaks who impinge on our right to live in the way we want, they are cultural-racists!

Hrodnand
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 12:32 PM
I think it's all about race, simply because we adore our kids and love our people.

The way we educate and raise our kids, the values we share and the customs we apply in our own community are mostly culturally and not race related. While genetics do play a major role in forming out the tendencies in a respective individual, belonging to a certain anthropological race alone is not a prerequisite for the survival and progression of our folk.



We are fantastically gifted intellectually, physically, creatively, artistically

The emergence and further evolution of these gifts are mostly possible due to certain cultural circumstances.




However, just about every other race is jealous of us, and openly, brutally enforces their culture over the top of ours, take our lands and homes or blatantly wipe us out. (Actually, make that, every race is jealous of us, I forgot the japs fawn over golden haired Euro’s)

That is because in present times, on a large scale, we lack the culture and worldview to avoid alien invasions both on ethnic and cultural levels.




Why shouldn't Skadi be about race? Our race made Skadi in the first place! And all the things that came before it.

Because Skadi is not Stormfront, and the birth of Skadi was a consequence of recognition regarding the Cultural, Ethnic and Spiritual values of the Germanic people. If you count race as an exclusive priority you dismiss the other equally relevant elements which constitute the germanic identity

The Aesthete
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 01:46 PM
The most important part of Germanic identity is race, although the others are also important. One can adopt and change ones cultural and spiritual values, while not that of race.

Any racial other currently practicing those things could call themselves Germanic otherwise.

Zogbot
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 02:15 PM
The way we educate and raise our kids, the values we share and the customs we apply in our own community are mostly culturally and not race related.

Race creates culture, not vice versa.

SpearBrave
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 02:25 PM
Race creates culture, not vice versa.

Not always true. It is hard to say which came first race or culture. They both equally need each other to exist in a good form.

Jäger
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 02:31 PM
Not always true.
Always true. Men create culture, without men there is no culture, without culture there are still apes.

Nachtengel
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 02:36 PM
Not always true. It is hard to say which came first race or culture. They both equally need each other to exist in a good form.
It's not hard to say at all, it's very simple.

Culture:


a particular society at a particular time and place; "early Mayan civilization"
the tastes in art and manners that are favored by a social group
acculturation: all the knowledge and values shared by a society
(biology) the growing of microorganisms in a nutrient medium (such as gelatin or agar); "the culture of cells in a Petri dish"
polish: a highly developed state of perfection; having a flawless or impeccable quality; "they performed with great polish"; "I admired the exquisite refinement of his prose"; "almost an inspiration which gives to all work that finish which is almost art"--Joseph Conrad
the attitudes and behavior that are characteristic of a particular social group or organization; "the developing drug culture"; "the reason that the agency is doomed to inaction has something to do with the FBI culture"
grow in a special preparation; "the biologist grows microorganisms"
the raising of plants or animals; "the culture of oysters"

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=culture

As you can see the definition of culture implies the existence of a social group, so we know for sure who came first, the people.

Sigurd
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 04:33 PM
The most important part of Germanic identity is race, although the others are also important. One can adopt and change ones cultural and spiritual values, while not that of race.

No, it is not the most important part of Germanic identity. It is an important part of our identity, and a necessary condition for someone to be able to be counted as a Germanic --- but it is not the race which makes us Germanics, as there are other groups of our race, usually also of our respective sub-race, so it is the other counters (some of which Hrodnand already named) which set us apart from non-Germanic groups of the same race. So you could say - whilst it is certainly a necessary condition, it is by no means a sufficient condition. ;)

The Aesthete
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 05:30 PM
Sigurd I strongly disagree and I realize it constitutes many sub races. Those non-Germanic groups of the same race, for example a Slavic East Nordid could become Germanic by only adopting those other things, as East Nordid is a Germanic sub race, but a mongoloid for example could never.


Again race is not a sufficient condition but it is the most important ;)

Fyrgenholt
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 05:37 PM
Sigurd I strongly disagree and I realize it constitutes many sub races. Those non-Germanic groups of the same race, for example a Slavic East Nordid could become Germanic by only adopting those other things, as East Nordid is a Germanic sub race, but a mongoloid for example could never.

The Atlantid subrace, as an example amongst many, is evident in both Celtic and Germanic populations, as examples amongst many - this is because subracial types are not mutually exclusive. What seperates a Celtic Atlantid from a Germanic one is that of cultural descendency, ethno-linguistic heritage, and so on. Therefor, race is necessary as a condition for someone to be considered of a particular ethnicity, as a Mongoloid, for example, would not be evident in either exemplar groups (which speaks for itself) in the same sense that a Keltic-Nordid would not be evident in a Maori tribe, however it is not the individually most important factor for self or group identification, rather, it is one factor amongst a multitude.

In response to your example of a Slavic East Nordid 'becoming' Germanic: he could not. He could become a Germanicized Slavic East Nordid, however his Slavic heritage is very much a reality. His subracial grouping could be found in either Slavic or Germanic speaking peoples, however his cultural descent is exclusive to the Slavs.

I would stress race + cultural and ethno-linguistic heritage.


EDIT: I've changed this post quite a few times now, but don't think it's as confused as it was, anymore ;)

The Aesthete
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 05:55 PM
Again the other two can be adopted but not race!

He could become a Germanicized Slavic East Nordid, ok then what would his children be if brought up in a Germanic country practicing that culture?

Fyrgenholt
Friday, September 17th, 2010, 06:18 PM
Again the other two can be adopted but not race!

He could become a Germanicized Slavic East Nordid, ok then what would his children be if brought up in a Germanic country practicing that culture?

Well to begin with they'd have a Slavic surname and therefor a direct and visible connection to their patrilineal Slavic descendency. Where they born to a Germanic mother, or to the blokes wife whom he brought over from his homeland? Had he married a Germanic woman his children's children's children, or whatever, would be primarily Germanic with some Slavic ancestry, had he brought his wife over his children would be "the Polish fellas kids" and his children's children's children would be primarily Germanic with some Slavic ancestry - but that speaks for itself, by that time their majority descent and their cultural upbringing would be Germanic, rather than Slavic.

Hrodnand
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 01:48 AM
One can adopt and change ones cultural and spiritual values, while not that of race.



Race creates culture, not vice versa.

Without proper culture a race can not sustain itself. Adopting one has its own faults (which has been proved in the past), because culture is like race, it goes through a certain evolution and selection, eventually achieving what works best.



Any racial other currently practicing those things could call themselves Germanic otherwise.

So any cultural other belonging to an anthropological phenotype that is common throughout the germanic world could be "converted" and call himself eventually germanic?


Those non-Germanic groups of the same race, for example a Slavic East Nordid could become Germanic by only adopting those other things, as East Nordid is a Germanic sub race, but a mongoloid for example could never.

You say slavic which already implies a cultural background, so following your theory basically it doesn't matter to which culture you belong because you can easily be converted by simply having a West-Central-Northern European phenotype.

A mongoloid could not be integrated not only because of his/her non-european phenotype but also because of his/her different cultural background.

As I've emphasized, without the proper culture a race can not maintain itself properly. You might have a country with pure nord-europids, if the dominant ideology is multi-cultural the population itself will soon become multi-racial as a direct consequence, which is the case in our current times.

Mouse Shadow
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 01:59 AM
A culture takes long winding, precarious road to eventuate, often times making laws, rules, and regarding them often as religion or societal dictum.

A culture is a precious thing that enhances the living characteristics of a race and makes sure that destructive tendencies to it's survival are minimized or removed.

Culture can be wrecked like a sand castle on a beach can be trounced upon. But the race is the penultimate driver of culture.

Culture is necessary to forge ties to your race other wise you race dies out. But our natural racial traits are to gather among our own flock first and to protect it.

Race is the single most important identifying characteristic of humans because, unlike culture, you cannot resurrect the dead once it's gone.

The Aesthete
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 06:11 AM
Ok if a Germanic couple adopted a Slavic child who was of a Germanic sub races e.g. East Nordid and they brought it up in a traditional Germanic manner from birth then that child would be Germanic. However this could never happen if the child was say Negroid, because race precludes them full stop.

Without proper culture a race can not sustain itself

I agree that is the problem today

I desperately want a revival in Germanic culture as I think it would engender pride in who we are as a people, thus helping us to see the folly of what is taking place.

Greed and self interest promotes this multitude of cultures thing but really what will happen is elements of the old ones will be taken creating a new culture different from them all, which reflects the contemporary demographic situation.

European cultures have many differences and similarities, but it should be noted they are far more analogous than say that of the Zulu people in Africa

Zogbot
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 08:13 AM
Without proper culture a race can not sustain itself. Adopting one has its own faults (which has been proved in the past), because culture is like race, it goes through a certain evolution and selection, eventually achieving what works best.


You're beating around the bush. Fact is that only Germans can create culture that is German. You can't take a congoloid and make him into a German. Culture evolves from the race it represents. You can't have Germanic culture evolving from a negro.

Hrodnand
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 09:49 AM
Fact is that only Germans can create culture that is German.

Yes, but germans are not a race but a large ethnic comunity with different sup-groups with specific cultural regions and worldviews. Besides, the point is not only to have a somewhat culture which we'll call german if it emerges from germans or swedish if it's applied by swedes, there are native cultural roots that go deeper than that. Christianity f.e was an alien culture adopted by most germanic countries yet it still can't be considered as part of the germanic culture, not even after 1000 years. Germany has one of the highest tolerance level for homosexuality in Europe, would you call that part of the german worldview or culture?




You can't take a congoloid and make him into a German. Culture evolves from the race it represents. You can't have Germanic culture evolving from a negro.

Yes, I said no differently but cultural evolution is just as a important as racial evolution.


Ok if a Germanic couple adopted a Slavic child who was of a Germanic sub races e.g. East Nordid and they brought it up in a traditional Germanic manner from birth then that child would be Germanic.

But in reality that is the exception and not the rule, most slavic children that grow up in a germanic country are raised by slavic parents therefore adopting a slavic cultural background which unfits the culture of the respective germanic country.



However this could never happen if the child was say Negroid, because race precludes them full stop.

I completely agree.



European cultures have many differences and similarities, but it should be noted they are far more analogous than say that of the Zulu people in Africa

So, what's the point?

Just because an East-European culture is closer to ours than that of the Zulu doesn't mean that we can integrate and adopt people from East-European countries for the sake of their anthropological phenotype.
It is not the similarities but the differences from the rest of the European cultures which make ours unique.

Sigurd
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 10:01 AM
You're beating around the bush. Fact is that only Germans can create culture that is German.

You've said it here yourself - only Germans can create culture that is German. Germanicised Slavs would always create culture that is partially Slavic in its implications, idea and mentality. An Atlantid German will create different culture than an Atlantid Spaniard; so whilst it is obvious that race is something without which we could not be (I think we settled that) - it is the culture that makes the distinction to racial similars.

It is precisely that culture - not phenotype - that made us move beyond a Germanic-Baltic-Slavic concept and made us into Germanics as we know it. So whilst race is certainly a necessary condition, it is not a sufficient condition --- the same as goes for culture: One who has the culture but not the race, is also not of the folk (such as an Aethiopian or Chinese kid adopted to German parents as a baby). They are interlinked, and one cannot be without the other; in fact culture is more restrictive than race alone: Every Germanic is racially Europid, but not every Europid is Germanic.

Deadly Nightshade and the Tomato are both nightshades. What sets them apart is not their taxonomy. They need to be nightshades to be able to be either a deadly nightshade or a tomato, but this will not suffice as a distinction, and is not all of it. :P

Zogbot
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 10:05 AM
Yes, but germans are not a race but a large ethnic comunity with different sup-groups with specific cultural regions and worldviews.

Wrong. All these groups share certain values that form the core of their cultures. Obviously climate etc will create specific variation.


Christianity f.e was an alien culture adopted by most germanic countries yet it still can't be considered as part of the germanic culture, not even after 1000 years.

Sure it can. It's been Nordicized to fit the Germanic spirit in the reformation. You can argue that worshiping a dead jew is un-Germanic, and I don't disagree, but the form this worship takes is Germanic. Jews aren't allowed to have images of their YHWH. We have plentiful images of Jesus everywhere. Jews have over 600 things they aren't allowed to do. Christianity has 10, all of them being extremely basic values that are required for a civilization (community with orientation) to form and prosper, therefore being shared by pretty much all groups of humanity, excluding the negroes.


Germany has one of the highest tolerance level for homosexuality in Europe, would you call that part of the german worldview or culture?

I would say that tolerance of homosexuality is plenty Germanic. I don't have a problem with homosexuals as long as they keep it to themselves and their way of life is shunned by the society at large. What is unnatural is having them march on open streets and being vulgar in plain sight (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zomb ietime.com%2Fup_your_alley_2008%2Fpart_1 _full%2Findex.php). This however is the result of jewish influence and subversion. Many other non-Germanic groups practice sodomy regularly. Negro tribes are known for raping the men of other tribes etc.

Hrodnand
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 11:40 AM
All these groups share certain values that form the core of their cultures. Obviously climate etc will create specific variation.

That is because in the past they've shared a common homeland for a longer period of time where cultural exchanges between different tribes were possible due to geographical positions.




Sure it can. It's been Nordicized to fit the Germanic spirit in the reformation.
You can argue that worshiping a dead jew is un-Germanic, and I don't disagree, but the form this worship takes is Germanic.

Wrong. The form of christian worship is little different in different christian communities. It basically has the same orientations, compassion for the weak and unworthy, a completely irrational love for a god that is not based on experience but fanaticism and mysticism, that love matters more than cultural or ethnic differences, that science, logic and common sense are the enemy of the church and that eternal life in an imaginary place is more important than life itself on Earth. You go to any good christian whether germanic, slavic or latino and they will equally value these aspects regardless of their cultural background and that is because ethnic culture does not matter in christianity.



Jews aren't allowed to have images of their YHWH. We have plentiful images of Jesus everywhere.

Does that make a culture valuable, to be able to have images of worship posted on key-holders, fliers and t-shirts?



Jews have over 600 things they aren't allowed to do.


Despite this fact they still pretty much control the world.



Christianity has 10, all of them being extremely basic values that are required for a civilization (community with orientation) to form and prosper, therefore being shared by pretty much all groups of humanity, excluding the negroes.

Wrong. The rules are meant to deprive the folk from its own native culture and spirituality by excluding the vital elements which would help the group to sustain itself. In the end you do have a community with orientation with the only difference that it forces the community into regression and an easier imposition of authority upon it.




I would say that tolerance of homosexuality is plenty Germanic. I don't have a problem with homosexuals as long as they keep it to themselves and their way of life is shunned by the society at large.

That's your own subjective opinion which doesn't apply in the case of the majority of germanics which have no problem at all with public display of homosexuality, in fact they think that it should be more promoted.

The Aesthete
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 12:35 PM
Germanics have ties from our proto Germanic past

Culturally ties binding us include speaking a Germanic language, having common myths, e.g. Anglo Saxon Woden corresponds to the Lombardic Godan who is none other than the Norse Odin, cultural practices like burning the Yule log etc.

I have seen liberals here emphasize that race is of no importance and put primacy on culture, putting primacy on culture allows encultured racial others to usurp our identity.

Hrodnand
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 12:45 PM
I have seen liberals here emphasize that race is of no importance and put primacy on culture, putting primacy on culture allows encultured racial others to usurp our identity.

If this was directed to me then you're wrong, I'm not in any case liberal and I didn't put primacy on culture, I agreed that an individual with a non-european phenotype (obviously) can't be integrated and become germanic as well. My intention was to bring a counter-argument for those who put primacy on race.

Nachtengel
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 01:01 PM
Culture is important beside race but there is no questioning that race is the most important out of the two. The cultural decline of Germanics which is at a peak now coincides with the immigration and settling of millions of racial foreigners. Multiculturalism is a result of multiracialism, not viceversa. Multiculturalism exists because other races are there. We didn't invent it. We never before had so many of them, but even before that, culturally alien practices like Christianity were introduced by foreigners.

By the way we can talk about a German racial type, a Slavic racial type... Germans have their specific racial types with the six German races, Nordid and Faelid being dominant, while for Slavs East Nordid and East Baltid are more common.

Zogbot
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 01:02 PM
That is because in the past they've shared a common homeland for a longer period of time where cultural exchanges between different tribes were possible due to geographical positions.

This sentence doesn't compute for me.


Wrong. The form of christian worship is little different in different christian communities.

I'm not going to defend Christianity, because I do not respect Christianity. However, a clearly observable fact is that what was original Christianity has been Nordicized bit by bit to fit the Germanic spirit more, starting with the Trinity (an idea that there are several Gods) and with Martin Luther being broken away from the Syrian foot washing cult of Catholicism.


Does that make a culture valuable, to be able to have images of worship posted on key-holders, fliers and t-shirts?

Not to me, but it clearly shows a divergence from the semitic origin. Jews would consider itemization of their god blasphemous.


Despite this fact they still pretty much control the world.

Not despite, but because.


Wrong. The rules are meant to deprive the folk from its own native culture and spirituality by excluding the vital elements which would help the group to sustain itself. In the end you do have a community with orientation with the only difference that it forces the community into regression and an easier imposition of authority upon it.

Paganism or any other form of religion has very little to do with spirituality, but more to do with explaining the unexplainable and creating cohesion among the community. This has taken many forms throughout history. To-day, we can explain the majority of things that in the past were attribute to god(s). This will increase in the future, although I suspect we will never answer all the questions which exist.


That's your own subjective opinion which doesn't apply in the case of the majority of germanics which have no problem at all with public display of homosexuality, in fact they think that it should be more promoted.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find any Germanic who would be for open queerdom if you first educated them on the facts about fags (http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html). The jewsmedia keeps saying that queers are cool and that is the reason that the average Germanic/White person doesn't mind them, not to mention that if you go against this Chosen agenda, you risk losing your job and so forth. 40 years ago homosexuality was a crime, keep that in mind.

Many people here keep attributing mythical qualities to the Germanic folk, that they are somehow inherently better than any other featherless biped called a human. Germanics have more potential, but they can be manipulated by the mischievous just the same as a negro. That's why we can't just have a society where anything goes.

Hrodnand
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Multiculturalism is a result of multiracialism, not viceversa. Multiculturalism exists because other races are there.

So you basically suggest that we should exterminate the whole world and eliminate all other non-european races to get rid of multiculturalism? :oanieyes



We didn't invent it. We never before had so many of them, but even before that, culturally alien practices like Christianity were introduced by foreigners.

Because we didn't have the culture to oppose it, that's the whole point. Christianity was not introduced through massive immigration of jews, but by a few who carried its cultural seeds. Let's assume that the germanic world was "perfect" regarding its racial composition before christianity, when the culture changed the racial composition changed as a direct consequence, because the adoption of an alien culture has a massive and devastating effect upon racial composition.

Fyrgenholt
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 01:33 PM
I have seen liberals here emphasize that race is of no importance and put primacy on culture, putting primacy on culture allows encultured racial others to usurp our identity.

Fortunately, I don't think anyone participating in discussion on this thread is putting forward such an argument.

Race + culturo-linguistic heritage is the key, I think, for it is the culturo-linguistic heritage that seperates the Celtic speaking CroMag from the Germanic one. The Germanic people are not a race, they are an ethnic group compatible with a particular race and a multitude of subraces within that particular race. If you are not of that race, you are not Germanic, that speaks for itself, however your being of that race alone does not necessarily mean you are Germanic, therefore, culture, language and so forth is of great significance.

Nachtengel
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 01:39 PM
So you basically suggest that we should exterminate the whole world and eliminate all other non-european races to get rid of multiculturalism? :oanieyes
Wow. I would expect such a question from paranoid anti-racist hippies, not from someone on a Germanic preservation board. :oanieyes

That's not what I suggested at all. I suggest we should erect walls around out nations, figuratively speaking of course, although nowadays we may have to do it literally too to stop the flood. Multiculturalism is an nonexistent problem in homogeneous nations.


Because we didn't have the culture to oppose it, that's the whole point. Christianity was not introduced through massive immigration of jews, but by a few who carried its cultural seeds. Let's assume that the germanic world was "perfect" regarding its racial composition before christianity, when the culture changed the racial composition changed as a direct consequence, because the adoption of an alien culture has a massive and devastating effect upon racial composition.
I agree with you, but my point stands: the cultural change was a consequence of adopting an ideology created by foreigners. It doesn't change just because Germanics carried it and spread it later. You'll find traitors and weak links in every race. The main point is that it was a creation of another race. Not ours. We didn't create a self-destructive religion.

Hrodnand
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 02:43 PM
This sentence doesn't compute for me.

Apparently you misunderstood when I wrote that germans are a large ethnic community with different subgroups having specific cultural variations (which is true nonetheless). You tried to prove me that these groups share similarities which I considered obvious in the first place.




However, a clearly observable fact is that what was original Christianity has been Nordicized bit by bit to fit the Germanic spirit more, starting with the Trinity (an idea that there are several Gods)

Similarities for the Trinity are to be found all across the Middle East and the Mediterranean, just like the figure of Jesus. It's not a germanic aspect in origins.



The trinity originated with Babylon, and was passed on to most of the world's religions. This polytheistic (believing in more than one god) trinitarianism was intertwined with Greek religion and philosophy and slowly worked its way into Christian thought and creeds some 300 years after Christ. The idea of "God the Son" is Babylonian paganism and mythology that was grafted into Christianity. Worshipping "God the Son" is idolatry, and idolatry is Biblically condemned; it breaks the first great commandment of God of not having any gods before him (Exodus 20:3). Then three centuries after Christ the corrupt emperor Constantine forced the minority opinion of the trinity upon the council of Nicea. The Christian church went downward from there; in fact some of the creeds and councils actually contradict each other. The council of Nicea 325 said that "Jesus Christ is God," the council of Constantinople 381 said that "the Holy Spirit is God," the council of Ephesus 431 said that "human beings are totally depraved," the council of Chalcedon 451 said that "Jesus Christ is both man and God." If you follow the logic here then first you have Jesus Christ as God, then you have man totally depraved, and then you have Jesus Christ as man and God. If Jesus Christ is both man and God does this mean that God is also totally depraved? Well maybe the doctrine of the coequal, coeternal, one-substance, mysterious three in one triune godhead is deprived of any historical foundation tying it into the Christianity of the Bible and the Christianity of the first three centuries.


http://www.christadelphia.org/trinityhistory.htm




with Martin Luther being broken away from the Syrian foot washing cult of Catholicism.

I agree that Luther did make attempts to reintroduce a more realistic approach, it is hard however to become realistic in something that has no roots in one's own cultural reality.




Not to me, but it clearly shows a divergence from the semitic origin.

A 1000 years of cultural divergence was not enough to clear the semitic origins of christianity in a way that would be beneficial for germanics. This means that its further worship will only lead to downfall, considering the current circumstances.




Paganism or any other form of religion has very little to do with spirituality,

If you're referring to germanic heathen culture here, spirituality in that context stands in opposition with new-age spirituality: it is more like a collective common sense where an individual acts in a manner and way that is most in line with his/her community. "Heathen religion" is little more than the expression of heathen culture which fills every aspects of one's life.




but more to do with explaining the unexplainable and creating cohesion among the community.

There is no such thing that can't be explained, eventually.
An important aspect of heathen culture was to create a better and proper understanding for man about Nature (i.e the Universe), which was science in its basic forms.



To-day, we can explain the majority of things that in the past were attribute to god(s).

Which is a very good thing because it seems that a logical and rational observation of the world is starting to prevail where theories, arguments and paradigms are based on real experience and not religion or new-age fantasy. If one would further follow the above mentioned directives in life it would soon realize all the problems which consume our society. But this is not the dominant case yet, that's one of the reasons why people remain blind in front of ridiculous actions taken by our governments.



I think you'd be hard pressed to find any Germanic who would be for open queerdom if you first educated them on the facts about fags (http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html). The jewsmedia keeps saying that queers are cool and that is the reason that the average Germanic/White person doesn't mind them, not to mention that if you go against this Chosen agenda, you risk losing your job and so forth.




Germanics have more potential, but they can be manipulated by the mischievous just the same as a negro. That's why we can't just have a society where anything goes.


That's only possible because of the dominant role of post modern pop culture which banishes individual consciousness. A conscious group of people would not elect political leaders who undermine their own survival nor would they advocate or adopt alien cultures which, if looked better at, are hostile and deconstructive.

velvet
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 02:49 PM
Paganism or any other form of religion has very little to do with spirituality, but more to do with explaining the unexplainable and creating cohesion among the community.

Meh, Heathenism is NOT animism, it's not there to "explain the unexplainable", this misunderstanding is a result of retarded translations from our languages into Latin or Greek with the loss of meaning that comes with a translation. Adding a general inability of (often Roman) christian writers to grasp the concept behind a highly poetic formulated event/thing/whatever, and you end up with that Heathenism is called animistic, to explain natural phenomena or other ignorant BS. It's way more complex, and way more accurate than any other known belief system when compared to actual science. Other topic though ;)



The jewsmedia keeps saying that queers are cool and that is the reason that the average Germanic/White person doesn't mind them, not to mention that if you go against this Chosen agenda, you risk losing your job and so forth. 40 years ago homosexuality was a crime, keep that in mind.

Which is just as retarded as promoting "gay-lifestyle" and was a christian law anyway. Although one has to wonder why christianity was so rigid on it, when half the staff is gay themselves :wsg


Many people here keep attributing mythical qualities to the Germanic folk, that they are somehow inherently better than any other featherless biped called a human. Germanics have more potential, but they can be manipulated by the mischievous just the same as a negro. That's why we can't just have a society where anything goes.

Very true. Actually, the perverse thing about that is that we can be made to this sort of people where anything goes because of one of our inherently good qualities: that of our will to fit into the group and dont cause trouble, our will (and need) to form homogenous groups.

But it's not so much about "being better" than others, but about being ourselves, being what our nature, our character traits enable us to be, what though is altered and twisted and which would, when being allowed to be part of this set of character traits, supported and furthered, indeed push us some levels ahead - of both others and also what we are today. This "better" does not need to apply to others, others dont even have to like it, but it would befit us, would support our development, our racial and cultural evolution, maybe, if you want, applying the goal of returning to our Thule past to cover the mythological aspect.

In this connection it might be interesting to note that even Australian Aboriginies have this glorification of some distant past time, they call it Dream Time, where the people had a superior culture and superior traits, which though was degenerated through some event. Christians call that being driven out of paradise, our own Dream Time was that of the Hyperboreans and Thule. Like many other aspects of belief systems this seems to be universal, just interpreted differently through the different culture/character traits filter of the people in question. Universal though is only the event, it does not imply that all the different people of the earth once were the same. But from this event springs a lot of mythological potential.

But I agree, race is the precondition on which a multitude of Germanic cultures grow. When this race base breaks away, also our cultures will perish. That cultures arent exchangeable at will even can be seen on christianity. While some basics are the same for all people who adopted christianity, the customs and society that came about is far from being the same for all those people. European catholicism looks vastly different from South American catholicism or Russian orthodox church and what have you. This is because of the race/character limitations and differencies of the different people, which is in turn also proof that culture cannot be transfered, it will always be filtered and altered by the race foundation it is set upon.

Hrodnand
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 03:01 PM
That's not what I suggested at all. I suggest we should erect walls around out nations, figuratively speaking of course, although nowadays we may have to do it literally too to stop the flood. Multiculturalism is an nonexistent problem in homogeneous nations.


Exactly, but we need the proper worldview and culture being dominant to take such actions. We might have racially perfect germanic countries if we lack the proper culture to defend them.

At first you've said that multiculturalism exists because there are other races, from this came my conclusion that you blame the existence of other races and not the fault of our countries who prevent us from erecting those walls.




the cultural change was a consequence of adopting an ideology created by foreigners. It doesn't change just because Germanics carried it and spread it later. You'll find traitors and weak links in every race. The main point is that it was a creation of another race. Not ours. We didn't create a self-destructive religion.

Completely agreed.

Blod og Jord
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 04:21 PM
I don't mind the race related talk on Skadi as long as it's about the problems in our countries, with immigration and globalization for example.
But discussions about other races and cultures like about black physical characteristics aren't very interesting to me.
I discuss the racial problems in my country because they affect my people. The immigrants are a point of discussion because they are here. If they were living in their own part of the world I wouldn't be interested to enrich my knowledge about them, honestly.

Nachtengel
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 04:32 PM
Exactly, but we need the proper worldview and culture being dominant to take such actions. We might have racially perfect germanic countries if we lack the proper culture to defend them.

At first you've said that multiculturalism exists because there are other races, from this came my conclusion that you blame the existence of other races and not the fault of our countries who prevent us from erecting those walls.
I blame not the existence of other races period, but their presence in Germanic countries. And yes indeed they're responsible for multiculturalism although they're not the only ones. All destructive ideologies were created and championed by foreigners, particularly the Jews. Communism, Zionism and the rest were no products of the white race or Germanics for that mattter. Germanics are to blame for adopting them. We are no perfect race but we are a superior race. Compare the cultural creation and scientific inventions of ours with those of the other races. We are the most evolved culturally and scientifically, if you remove the foreign elements and influence.

The Aesthete
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 06:55 PM
Hrodnand It was not directed at you:)

So you basically suggest that we should exterminate the whole world and eliminate all other non-european races to get rid of multiculturalism?

No we should just stop encouraging multiracialism in our lands

I don’t want to get into Christian apologetics but, Christianity has also helped unite and preserve Germanic and Europoid racial integrity at times, the Order of the Dragon, the Holy League etc.

Zogbot: Christianity has been Nordicized bit by bit to fit the Germanic spirit more

Not everyone in the church today is even supportive of multiculturalism this will become more prevalent with Islamization

Joe McCarthy
Saturday, September 18th, 2010, 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by Hrodnand
Because Skadi is not Stormfront

True. Stormfront has fewer Nazis.

The Aesthete
Sunday, September 19th, 2010, 11:03 AM
I think you will find that Stormfront is far more extreme, at least that has been my interpretation.

Resist
Sunday, September 19th, 2010, 03:11 PM
As other members said, it is because we currently live in multiracial countries. Both race and culture are under threat, however race cannot be revived once it has died, at least not without the passing of many generations, in order to weed out the foreign genes. That's why some feel the emphasis should be on race first, culture second.

Siebenbürgerin
Sunday, September 19th, 2010, 05:52 PM
I think you will find that Stormfront is far more extreme, at least that has been my interpretation.
Indeed, in my impression the National Socialist members of Skadi aren't extremists. Their views are acceptable to me.

I haven't read the board recently so I can't estimate my view on the racially related discussions. But I can say, in my view culture is not a negligible part of our heritage. Being Germanic is a mixture between race, ethnicity and culture. It's not a wrong thing to discuss Asatru and which German region makes the best beer. Because these are parts of our identity too. Without our culture, our race would be void.

Wulfram
Sunday, September 19th, 2010, 06:11 PM
Indeed, in my impression the National Socialist members of Skadi aren't extremists. Their views are acceptable to me.


Oh, there are extremists here alright.
But unlike Stormfront we have more subtle ways of expressing it.

In my opinion it will be extremism that is to be our last gasp resort.
So far nothing else has worked.

Frankly, I am pretty darned sick of the nice guy approach.
If we wait too long to find a more peaceful solution then being peaceful will eventually be our undoing.

Elessar
Sunday, September 19th, 2010, 06:38 PM
In an ideal world other races would be of little consequence to us. But as it stands other races are colonising Germanic lands and even becoming a majority in our lands while their homelands remain 100% homogenous.

What do you have to say about the majority of responses to this being "Europeans call it colonialism, when some one else does it it's invasion" or "what goes around comes around" (in reference to past colonialism)?

This is what I encounter most.

Zogbot
Sunday, September 19th, 2010, 06:57 PM
Oh, there are extremists here alright.
But unlike Stormfront we have more subtle ways of expressing it.

In my opinion it will be extremism that is to be our last gasp resort.
So far nothing else has worked.

Frankly, I am pretty darned sick of the nice guy approach.
If we wait too long to find a more peaceful solution then being peaceful will eventually be our undoing.

The fiends responsible for the situation to-day were never nice guys. They used pistols, bayonets, night sticks, handcuffs, threats on family and self - every dirty trick in the book. It's time to stop copying the losers and start doing what the winners do. The international parasite never asked nicely. They set brother against brother with a rifle in hand. They firebombed their opposition. They nuked those who resisted. Force, raw physical force is the only solution.

Does saying that make me extreme? I don't think so.

Schattenjäger
Monday, September 20th, 2010, 02:45 PM
Well maybe becouse public discourse in the west is infested with discussions about race - but in negative and masochist way. People are sick with being humiliated every day, and so forums like this serve as expression of tiredness.

Witta
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010, 02:18 PM
Skadi is off putting at the moment because the White Nationalist and Neo Nazi crowd have arrived and they make every thread a tedious, lowbrow rant about Aryans, Jews or Negros.

flâneur
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010, 02:36 PM
Skadi is off putting at the moment because the White Nationalist and Neo Nazi crowd have arrived and they make every thread a tedious, lowbrow rant about Aryans, Jews or Negros.

At least they are consistent....unlike you.

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=980137#post980137

SaxonPagan
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Skadi is off putting at the moment because the White Nationalist and Neo Nazi crowd have arrived and they make every thread a lowbrow rant about Aryans, Jews or Negros.

"Off-putting" :confused But Fortress, you're spending longer on here these days than ever before :D

No! NS members have always been here, mate, as you should know because you once claimed to be one yourself!

SaxonPagan
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010, 02:50 PM
A quick check to see what the latest 5 topics are ...

Why Is Nearly Every Post on here race-related?
Looking Forward to Retirement?
What Are Your Opinions on Skinheads?
Samhain (Halloween)
Favourite Decumentaries

Taken purely at random, as of 2 minutes ago, and bearing in mind you've just bumped this one back up to the top!

So it hardly justifies what you are saying, and basically comes down to the fact that people find the threads they are looking for. In some cases, they even decide to perpetuate the very threads that they claim to object to ;)

Witta
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010, 02:51 PM
At least they are consistent....unlike you.

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=980137#post980137

There you go. Learning, evolving, adapting, maturing before your eyes. Don't conflate ignorance with consistency, and "Are you hardcore enough" rhetoric designed to sway boneheads isn't likely to ring any bells with me.

SaxonPagan
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010, 02:55 PM
I see you've also had a little dig at Skadi up in the "Shoutbox" ...


Since when was Skadi the Beige Stormfront

Nobody has reacted to this (yet) but I'm sure you'll soon be starting some aggro on there, and then claiming that there's racism all over the forum :oanieyes

Personally, I think you should stop this trolling NOW!!!! :|

Witta
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010, 03:05 PM
I see you've also had a little dig at Skadi up in the "Shoutbox" ...


Since when was Skadi the Beige Stormfront

Nobody has reacted to this (yet) but I'm sure you'll soon be starting some aggro on there, and then claiming that there's racism all over the forum :oanieyes

Personally, I think you should stop this trolling NOW!!!! :|

That is what this thread is about, and I agree with it. I'm thinking it, a lot of people are thinking it, even long standing members have backed out for a while as the Hollywood Nazis march through Skadiville.

flâneur
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010, 03:10 PM
There you go. Learning, evolving, adapting, maturing before your eyes.

Yes and your anti semitic outpourings were only a month ago....so with you learning,evolving and maturing before our very eyes i would say by christmas you will be wearing a chè t-shirt.....combat fatigues and a black antifa beret and will be extoling us on the merits of thesis antithesis and synthesis........at your present rate.

I dont expound any "are you hardcore enough" rhetoric,i share my beliefs that have been thought out and am interested in what my germanic brothers have to say and share.
I dont discard my views though like yesterdays fish and chip wrapper like you seem to do.
Although anyone having an opinion for longer than two weeks would look hardcore compared to you.

SaxonPagan
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010, 03:16 PM
Look, Germania, if you don't like Skadi then go elsewhere!!! It's quite simple, although you were recently telling us you've been banned from Stormfront if I remember correctly. You also claim to have been banned from here back in 2006 ...


I can remember back in 2006 registering on Skadi and getting my account banned for informing everyone about The Jewish Problem and outing as Jews everybody who responded negatively.

.. so this is becoming a bit of a problem for you as I see it. I'm not entirely sure you know what you want, but this latest mission to cleanse Skadi of all things you consider "racist" is doomed to failure.

I would not hang around and make a fool of myself; you should retire with dignity if Skadi is no longer for you, rather than causing arguments just for the sake of it!

Oh, and just before you leave, could you please back this up ...


I'm thinking it, a lot of people are thinking it, even long standing members have backed out for a while as the Hollywood Nazis march through Skadiville.

I doubt very much that you could give any examples!

Witta
Wednesday, October 27th, 2010, 09:30 AM
I dont discard my views though like yesterdays fish and chip wrapper like you seem to do.

That's because all you have are views and they are never tested, I doubt they see daylight outside paranoid rants on anonymous internet forums. Maybe if you tested your views on people in the real world you might actually realise how mad you sound. Did your 'iron will' allow you to tell your family and friends about your strongly held views, or are you content confiding them anonymously to internet strangers like a closeted transvestite?

flâneur
Wednesday, October 27th, 2010, 10:42 AM
Maybe if you tested your views on people in the real world you might actually realise how mad you sound.

Friday sept 10th 2010.

Are You 'Far Right'?.

- An emphasis on race. YES a BIG emphasis on race.
- Anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist. YES very.

My position is a government should exist to do whatever is in the interests of the nation it represents, to ensure the health and wealth of the ethnic group.

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=1025969#post1025969


So in a month or so you have gone from Right wing extremist to left wing apologist......1 month.

The only person on the board i see who is mad FG is you.

What will be your opinions next month....?...or the month after that....?

Mouse Shadow
Wednesday, October 27th, 2010, 10:53 AM
The fiends responsible for the situation to-day were never nice guys. They used pistols, bayonets, night sticks, handcuffs, threats on family and self - every dirty trick in the book. It's time to stop copying the losers and start doing what the winners do. The international parasite never asked nicely. They set brother against brother with a rifle in hand. They firebombed their opposition. They nuked those who resisted. Force, raw physical force is the only solution.

I would do such a thing, but reading from my bible => 'The 48 Laws of Power', 'Crush your enemy absolutely' is the most necessary function, but only when you have the advantage to do so. Pyrrhic victory is no victory when it turns into a war of attrition.

I would offer one solace for the minute while we gather our collected wits and strategies, they haven't killed us off yet, nor will they.

Considering what has happened to us, we have remained.

The spews ruse is nearly up....

:)

The Aesthete
Wednesday, October 27th, 2010, 04:20 PM
Fortress Germania I reveal my views to family and prudently in public

Zogbot there are many Anglos who are Nordids just as you say you are

The Angles were a Germanic tribe just like the Swedes and Danes; linguistically, culturally and racially they are very very similar and the close relation can be seen in reading works like Beowolf etc.

SpearBrave
Wednesday, October 27th, 2010, 05:04 PM
This Thread is closed awaiting moderation.
OK

This thread is now open again please feel to resume your posting.

Thank You for patience.
Skadi Staff