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Nachtengel
Wednesday, April 7th, 2010, 10:46 AM
Considering all the body hair talk and men's preferences, we should discuss women's preferences and habits separately. So here it is, the poll about body hair. Choose what applies.

Blod og Jord
Wednesday, April 7th, 2010, 10:54 AM
I remove my body hair, but not 100% of it.
Usually I remove it from my underarms and legs because it feels smoother and more comfortable.
The hair on my arms I don't remove. It's light, soft and scarce anyway, so it's not noticeable and it doesn't bother me.
I remove the hair from the bikini line if I'm going to wear a swimsuit.
That's about it. :shrug

Dropkick
Monday, April 26th, 2010, 01:21 AM
My GF shaves all over except the arms. She's blond so you wouldn't notice it on the arms but the rest is shaved. Smooth is always better. :thumbup

Siebenbürgerin
Sunday, May 16th, 2010, 05:35 PM
I shave the body hair like Blod og Jord does, mainly the armpit and leg hair, that's what always goes, the rest it depends. I've not much body hair and it's blond, so I'm considering myself lucky compared to other women like some who are very brunette and have to shave or wax their "mustache". :P

Angela
Sunday, June 20th, 2010, 06:44 PM
I remove all body hair that's visible. The hairs on my arms are blond and very sparsely so that I leave.

Phoebe
Tuesday, August 10th, 2010, 08:56 AM
Well i shave under my arms and legs... the bikini zone only when we go to the pool or to the beach:D...

bæny
Thursday, December 23rd, 2010, 07:54 PM
I wax everywhere every 6 weeks apart from my arm hair because it's not visible.
I mean everywhere excluding my head, there is only so much pain I can take.
I admire women who don't shave/wax though, I'm far to naive not to (and it's become to be what I'm comfortable with), I think women that don't remove their body hair are sticking 2 fingers up to the 'norm' which I think is v. good.

Astrid Runa
Thursday, December 23rd, 2010, 07:59 PM
I shave my armpits and I wax my legs.
Other areas only when the occasion calls for it (ahem).

Thusnelda
Thursday, December 23rd, 2010, 09:12 PM
I wax everywhere every 6 weeks apart from my arm hair because it's not visible.
I mean everywhere excluding my head, there is only so much pain I can take.
I admire women who don't shave/wax though , I think women that don't remove their body hair are sticking 2 fingers up to the 'norm' which I think is v. good.
If you want to stick two fingers to the mainstream people then the question of shaving body hairs or not is quite a bad solution because almost no one can see your "statement" besides you and your partner and maybe your best friends. ;) No, the main reasons for not shaving anymore is that I follow a natural approach (naturalism over artificiality) and that I donīt support the whole trivial business which imposes burdens and stress on women in order to make them look like naive and childlike erotic models.

Honestly, it knows no borders: Tune up your hairs with industry products, rub expensive cremes with exotic ingredients youīve never heard about onto your skin, wear unpronounceable make-up produced in chemical laboratories and fight the body hairs nature gave you in a merciless way by irritating your skin with razor blades, epilators or hot wax over and over again! Itīs sick to the bottom. :thumbdown As Iīve already said some time ago, thereīs a process of denaturalization going on and it creates victims in a constant row. :|

Women are told they act unsanitary if they donīt shave which is a blatant lie because cleanliness has nothing to do with it. And the trend becomes more extreme as we speak: Legs, armpits, pupic area and now the arms! The arms!
I canīt even visualize how someone sits there and shaves her tiny hairs on the forearms. :scratch And whatīs the next level? The complete eyebrows, the hairs on the eye lid? Do we want to look like Whoopy Goldberg?

I think a society which treats natural hairs as "sick" and "troublesome" is sick by itself. And I regret that I was a victim of this adverse trend earlier in my life and how I stressed myself to meet the expecations of the norm. I could have used the time wasted in the bathroom more meaningful. Furthermore, my skin was addicted to body lotions for some time: When I didnīt applied the lotion, my skin would become dry and fragile. It took me months to wean my skin from this industrial garbage. Now my skin is soft and healthy and I donīt use any lotion. The bodycare business is created to produce addicts.

bæny
Thursday, December 23rd, 2010, 09:37 PM
If you want to stick two fingers to the mainstream people than the question of shaving body hairs or not is quite a bad solution because almost no one can see your "statement" besides you and your partner and maybe your best friends. ;) No, the main reasons for not shaving anymore is that I follow a natural approach (naturalism over artificiality) and that I donīt support the whole trivial business which imposes burdens and stress on women in order to make them look like naive and childlike erotic models.

Yes I see what you mean, I do see how it could look 'dodgy' like that but I think if the woman has an womanly body it looks fine. Although, I do think it's also a kind of fashion statement (even though its covered up) just like how being v. skinny was (which taken too far looks horrible, but some women are naturally thin, and whatever shape looks lovely unless its the 2 extremes)


Honestly, it knows no borders: Tune up your hairs with industry products, rub expensive cremes with exotic ingredients youīve never heard about onto your skin, wear unpronounceable make-up produced in chemical laboratories and fight the body hairs nature gave you in a merciless way by irritating your skin with razor blades, epilators or hot wax over and over again! It is sick to the bottom. :thumbdown As Iīve already said some time ago, thereīs a process of denaturalization going on and it creates victims in a constant row. :|

I think that most of that is obviously used for money making reasons on behalf of the companies in question. For example, there is a lot more pressure for women to look younger now, so they invest Ģ100's into anti-wrinkle creams and such which usually do nothing if they're not coupled with a healthy lifestyle.


Women are told they act unsanitary if they donīt shave which is a blatant lie because cleanliness has nothing to do with it. And the trend becomes more extreme as we speak: Legs, armpits pupic area and now the arms! The arms!
I canīt even visualize how someone sits there and shaves her tiny hairs on the forearms. :scratch And whatīs the next level? The complete eyebrows, the hairs on the eye lid? Do we want to look like Whoopy Goldberg?

I guess that is because what is indoctrinated into young women via models and fashion. Also by some extent by what a lot of males find preferable (for example, whatever porn stars choose to do with their lady gardens, I know not all of them prefer it that way, I'm just speaking from the guys I know).
I have heard of a lot of people getting rid of their eyebrows, and tattooing them on.
For example this very butch and attractive man: :~(
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42553000/jpg/_42553983_pete_burns_getty_203long.jpg


I think a society which treats natural hairs as "sick" and "troublesome" is sick. And I regret that I was a victim of this adverse trend earlier in my life and how I stressed myself to meet the expecations of the norm. I could have used the time wasted in the bathroom more meaningful.

I personally feel more comfortable waxing my body (minus arms and stomach, and er, back or bottom). However, I think whatever women choose to do with their body hair should be up to them.

Astrid Runa
Thursday, December 23rd, 2010, 09:43 PM
Actually, Thunselda. Armpit hair should be shaved. It's what gives off the smell when you sweat (the bacteria in sweat clings onto the hairs) and it also produces more sweat. Nobody likes overly sweaty armpits. It feels uncomfortable.

I like the way my legs feel after I've waxed. Nice and smooth ^^

bæny
Thursday, December 23rd, 2010, 09:49 PM
I like the way my legs feel after I've waxed. Nice and smooth ^^

The most amazing feeling in the world!

Micaela
Thursday, December 30th, 2010, 02:21 AM
I shave my legs, armpits and bikini line.

Aishiri
Saturday, January 8th, 2011, 12:56 PM
Actually, Thunselda. Armpit hair should be shaved. It's what gives off the smell when you sweat (the bacteria in sweat clings onto the hairs) and it also produces more sweat. Nobody likes overly sweaty armpits. It feels uncomfortable.

I like the way my legs feel after I've waxed. Nice and smooth ^^

This is why I shave my armpits.

I shave my legs too, but only during spring/summer months. In fall/winter, they're hairy and I don't care. :P

Thusnelda
Friday, September 23rd, 2011, 08:08 PM
For example, there is a lot more pressure for women to look younger now, so they invest Ģ100's into anti-wrinkle creams and such which usually do nothing if they're not coupled with a healthy lifestyle.
Ironically, some of my relatives and friends who use lots of make-up and these over-expensive anti-aging cremes look older than they are. It has to do with the fact that the longstanding usage of make-up is a harsh burden to the skin, it canīt breath properly and is unable to find the correct balance of emission of body substances and the absorption of substances in the air. Imagine the skin plastered with thin asphalt for years - but the skin is a living organ, not a lifeless texture!

Make-up does harm to the skin just like tan and sunburn in the long run, and just like tan or sunburn the negative effects arenīt visible immediately but after some years and decades. And it is nearly impossible to revitalize wrecked skin.

I guess that is because what is indoctrinated into young women via models and fashion. Also by some extent by what a lot of males find preferable (for example, whatever porn stars choose to do with their lady gardens, I know not all of them prefer it that way, I'm just speaking from the guys I know).
I have heard of a lot of people getting rid of their eyebrows, and tattooing them on.
One reason more to get rid of the flood of superficial model- and lifestyle trends and to revive a more natural and healthy approach. The TV is full of wrong idols these days. I like watching good movies myself, but I prefer borrowing good DVDs from the movie store over watching stupid "reality TV" series with tons of advertisement every 20 minutes.

Actually, Thunselda. Armpit hair should be shaved. It's what gives off the smell when you sweat (the bacteria in sweat clings onto the hairs) and it also produces more sweat. Nobody likes overly sweaty armpits. It feels uncomfortable.
Sweat only begins to smell when itīs old or stale. Fresh sweat doesnīt smell. With regular basic hygiene (like showering), smell isnīt a problem at all. And furthermore, natural body smell (Iīm not talking about unwashed and dirty stinkers, of course ;)) contains scents who are important for creating attachment to each other and for bonding, they also tell others subconsciously who you are and if you fit together. The sayings "I canīt reek you!" or "I like your smell" have a reason. Often people feel that they like or canīt stand someone but they canīt find a clear reason for this "bodily" (or subconscious) decision. Chances are high that your body finds the scents of the other one compatible or incompatible with yourself, therefore the sympathy or rejection. If someone shaves and waxes like a maniac and covers behind a wall of artificial deodorants, he or she takes away a natural selection capability.

Iīve also heard that other races or ethnicities smell different. I havenīt encountered it by myself because we donīt have significant ethnic minorities here but Iīve seen people talking about it more than once.


I like the way my legs feel after I've waxed. Nice and smooth ^^
Well, waxing is the violent eradication of body parts above and below the skin and the body answers with the only feasible reaction: Excessive pain, skin irritation, small bleedings and a higher vulnerability for bacteria infections on the affected small skin areas. Thatīs why many people apply antibiotic liquids (based on alcohol) on the skin after shaving or waxing. These alcohol-based products are harmful to the skin as well, which leads to the "burning" effect on the skin.

Lady Vengeance
Friday, September 23rd, 2011, 10:08 PM
I have very little body hair, but I still fight a wax-blitzkrieg against my crotch and armpits. To me, it doesn't cause that much pain and skin irritation, since I just don't have much hair on my body (and I also love the smooth feel of my skin after waxing). But I use natural creams and take care of my skin as well, so it doesn't get damaged in any case!


Ironically, some of my relatives and friends who use lots of make-up and these over-expensive anti-aging cremes look older than they are.
Well, yeah. You have to combine it with a healthy lifestyle, if you're aiming for lasting beauty. I do use mascara sometimes, but in moderation. If you're caking on too much make-up, every day, the skin won't breathe and you just look older than your age. Anyone could figure that out. But then again, many idiots don't.


Iīve also heard that other races or ethnicities smell different. I havenīt encountered it by myself
Yep, they do smell. Some of them smell more than others, and it's not just food habits. Different races have very different metabolisms and skin pores. Arabs and Africans usually reek of rancid sweat, while East Asians don't smell at all.

Thusnelda
Saturday, September 24th, 2011, 06:03 PM
Yep, they do smell. Some of them smell more than others, and it's not just food habits. Different races have very different metabolisms and skin pores. Arabs and Africans usually reek of rancid sweat, while East Asians don't smell at all.
Rancid sweat and different skin pores? How do you know? :-O Oh well, I hope Iīll never come so near to Africans, Asians or other ethnic minorities that I have to endure their smell. :african::death

Atali
Saturday, September 24th, 2011, 06:14 PM
I grew up swimming competitively, so I've always just shaved everything. Can't have any slip ups when you're on the blocks and the gun sounds ;)

Lady Vengeance
Saturday, September 24th, 2011, 06:29 PM
different skin pores?
Yep, we do have different skin PH and size of pores - those with higher PH tend to be sweatier and smell more. I also heard from an ex-boyfriend that the different races have slightly different metabolisms, so I had to google that. The internet is your friend.


How do you know?
I walk past them pretty much ever day...and make mental notes. ;)


Oh well, I hope Iīll never come so near to Africans, Asians or other ethnic minorities that I have to endure their smell.
Well, in the case of Asians, it's more like a total lack of body smell (unless they use perfume). But yeah, the African blacks can sometimes even be smelled across the street...

Sigurd
Saturday, September 24th, 2011, 07:48 PM
Ironically, some of my relatives and friends who use lots of make-up and these over-expensive anti-aging cremes look older than they are.

That is actually quite true. Off the top of my head I can think of a woman in her late twenties who has always excessively made use of make-up, her skin without make-up actually looks older than that of my mother, who is twenty years her senior but who was always relatively conservative in her use of make-up. :shrug

Thusnelda
Saturday, September 24th, 2011, 08:17 PM
That is actually quite true. Off the top of my head I can think of a woman in her late twenties who has always excessively made use of make-up, her skin without make-up actually looks older than that of my mother, who is twenty years her senior but who was always relatively conservative in her use of make-up. :shrug
Yes indeed, and the results are often people (in the following case, celebrities) who look way older without make-up than they are.

http://dc-cdn.virtacore.com/NO2008-heigl-without-makeup.jpg

http://ice3erg.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/pamela-anderson.jpg

http://www.hey-dollface.com/images/christinaricci_without_makeup.jpg

http://www.photofunblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Miley-Cyrus.jpg

http://www.funny-potato.com/images/make-up/celebrity-makeup/kate-moss.jpg

http://dc-cdn.virtacore.com/NOCameron_Diaz_No_Make-up_copy.jpg

The same goes also for damaged body skin due to long-term excessive shaving or waxing.

Einarr
Saturday, September 24th, 2011, 09:23 PM
Yep, they do smell. Some of them smell more than others, and it's not just food habits. Different races have very different metabolisms and skin pores. Arabs and Africans usually reek of rancid sweat, while East Asians don't smell at all.

I have been around enough East Asians in my time to know that they all have a characteristic musty scent/smell. How many apocrine sweat glands a race has isn't the issue, rather they simply all have a differing body composition when it involves scent or smell.

I also believe that it is a primal indicator of foreignness vs compatibility when dealing with race, and I know it would be even more noticeable than it already is if people weren't covering up and washing away these scents as much as they do at present day. I can always tell when a negroid is near me for example, they all have the exact same characteristic musty smell. I don't even have to see them to know that they are near me. There is no way that it's just due to "the hair product they use" or "lotion they rub on their skin" either, which a lot of people seem to claim. They simply smell different and that's that. We certainly smell different to them as well. People are just afraid to admit or talk about it, as they feel it's "racist."

Alfadur
Sunday, September 25th, 2011, 01:20 PM
I don't care that much if my woman is waxing or not. It's the kind of thing best left to women to decide. Too much body hair on a woman is a turn-off and rather unfeminine, I definitely agree. But on the other hand, there's something unnatural and pedophilic about the "little girl" fashion where women are encouraged to wax everywhere.



Yep, they do smell. Some of them smell more than others, and it's not just food habits. Different races have very different metabolisms and skin pores. Arabs and Africans usually reek of rancid sweat, while East Asians don't smell at all.
Indeed. Different races also have different skin PH - the higher the PH is, the greasier and smellier your skin will be. Negroes have the highest amount, which can be evidenced by how strongly they smell. As you said, food metabolism and pores have a role as well, since you will eventually start smelling like your food habits if you have large skin pores and eat too much of the same spicy food (the Pakistanis who always reek of curry would be the prime example).

The most likely explanation is that the northern races (Europeans and Northeast Asians) developed very different skin pores from the southern races (everyone else) as a result of developing the cold Ice Age.

Ingvaeonic
Sunday, September 25th, 2011, 01:42 PM
Yep, they do smell. Some of them smell more than others, and it's not just food habits. Different races have very different metabolisms and skin pores. Arabs and Africans usually reek of rancid sweat, while East Asians don't smell at all.

You can say that again. You can smell Arabs and negroids before you can see or hear them. Squiffiest bastards on the planet!

Hedensk
Sunday, October 2nd, 2011, 09:12 AM
I prefer to shave my legs and underarms, and wax "other regions". I've never had need to remove hair from other body parts, i.e. face or arms, because my hair in those areas is very fine and blonde. I do attend to brows. I believe looking feminine and put-together is important, for me at least.

Adalheid
Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012, 07:25 PM
I don't think I could go without shaving my armpits. I sometimes leave my legs alone because the hairs are really soft and whitish blonde. My husband doesn't seem to mind and has commented that they're so light an soft that it doesn't even phase him. I know that I'm lucky to have such light hair on my legs...I've seen some ladies who look like they still need to shave right after they've shaved. As far as pubic hair, I do trim now and again. Once again, this is as to my husband's preference. I'm just thankful that he doesn't want my fully shaved as that is a discomfort close to no other. Otherwise, I keep things pretty natural. I don't see any need to pretend that I don't have hair on my arms.

Sól
Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012, 07:33 PM
I remove all my body hair unless I am in a big hurry, then I'll just remove my armpit and leg hair. ;)

Thusnelda
Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012, 10:57 PM
I remove all my body hair unless I am in a big hurry, then I'll just remove my armpit and leg hair. ;)
But why all of the self-inflected stress and burden? You donīt run around naked all day long, day by day, donīt you? ;) I canīt understand such rigorous treatment of the own body and uncompromising struggle against the natural way of things.

Sól
Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012, 11:01 PM
Why the self-inflected stress and burden? You donīt run around naked all day long, day by day, donīt you? ;) I canīt understand such rigorous treatment of the own body and the natural way of things.
It's not a burden, I just feel better without hair. :) My skin feels smoother and sweat doesn't get trapped by the hairs. It's also more enjoyable sexually, but I won't go into details here. ;)

Elfriede
Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012, 11:14 PM
I shave everywhere except my arms and head. It's just what I've always done, although it's probably unnecessary as my body hair is so blonde that it's practically invisible. It just feels so much better to have freshly shaved legs than itchy-stubbly legs.

Thusnelda
Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012, 11:15 PM
It's not a burden, I just feel better without hair. :) But who says that, who implemented that very thought in your head? Really yourself alone? Or the public opinion and the countless of media examples? If no one else would do it, would you still do it? Would you have come to the idea to shave your body everywhere all alone? Or isnīt it more like that most people try to keep pace with what the majority does and where the trend goes!? (The current trend seems to go to shave even the upper-arm hairs and pluck the eyebrows to an extend that a liner has to be applied to fake an eyebrow...) Donīt get me wrong, I accept and respect your views and you can do what you want, but I just donīt believe that generations of Germanic women, throughout all the centuries and millenniums up until the 1980ies, had problems with feelings of "un-smooth skin" or bad sex. ;) All the problems are artificially created in the head.

It's also more enjoyable sexually, but I won't go into details here. ;)Thereīs no difference to me (as I did shave in the past for quite a while) and I never had men who shave...because I like men, not prepubescent boys. :P But I guess that goes too far now.

Sól
Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012, 11:58 PM
But who says that, who implemented that very thought in your head? Really yourself alone? Or the public opinion and the countless media examples? If no one else would do it, would you still do it? Would you have come to the idea to shave your body everywhere all alone? Or isnīt it more like that most people try to keep pace with what the majority does and where the trend goes!? Donīt get me wrong, I accept and respect your views and you can do what you want, but I donīt believe that generations of Germanic women, throughout all the centuries and millenniums up until the 1980ies, had problems with feelings of "un-smooth hair" or bad sex. ;) Itīs all in the head.
I'm a nationalist and a lesbian, that should answer your question about trends and public opinion. ;) I practice what makes sense to me really.

I've been with body hair and without and the feeling I get without is much better. I'm not trying to make others endorse my style or push it on anyone. I don't think it matters that much unless they work in the modeling industry or something.


Thereīs no difference to me (as I did shave in the past for quite a while) and I never had men who shave...because I like men, not prepubescent boys. :P But I guess that goes too far now.
Prepubescent boys (or girls) don't have fully developed sexual organs. Removing the hair doesn't hide their development.

It's difficult to make the point without being too graphic. :P Let's just say I don't like hairs in my soup. :D

CruxClaire
Thursday, February 23rd, 2012, 12:19 AM
It's difficult to make the point without being too graphic. :P Let's just say I don't like hairs in my soup. :D

I get the impression that most of the people that shave/wax the pubic area do so for sexual reasons/because it's what their partners prefer, whereas other body hair is removed for social reasons or because people feel cleaner without it.

I understand why many people like to trim excessive pubic hair (it can be an issue with some of it showing beyond the edges of bathing suits and whatnot, which makes people self-conscious), but the idea of shaving/waxing all of it seems strange to me. I guess I agree with Thusnelda there - the prepubescent just isn't something I find attractive. ;)

I personally shave my lower legs (not my thighs, because the skin is too pale and sensitive and gets blotchy and red when I shave there, and the hair is blonde and wispy anyway) and armpits because it feels more comfortable to me, and I wax my eyebrows because they're too thick and grow all over the place.

Mööv
Thursday, February 23rd, 2012, 12:19 AM
I think that overdoing anything can be bad. When seeing a completely shaved woman it`s no different to me than seeing one with a mustache and beard :D

A little bush is OK, when it`s properly taken care of. :thumbup

Same goes for perfumes and deodorants in my opinion. But I generally have a dislike for them and extremely rarely use those things.

Neophyte
Thursday, February 23rd, 2012, 01:28 AM
Donīt get me wrong, I accept and respect your views and you can do what you want, but I just donīt believe that generations of Germanic women, throughout all the centuries and millenniums up until the 1980ies, had problems with feelings of "un-smooth skin" or bad sex. ;) All the problems are artificially created in the head.

Someone, a sociologist or something, related the hairless trend to the increased acceptance of public nudity; in media, advertising etc. You see the same trend in men; in the 60s it was Sean Connery with a rug on his chest, today it is all smooth and waxed.

How he or she got it all together I do not remember at the moment.

Sól
Friday, February 24th, 2012, 03:24 PM
I get the impression that most of the people that shave/wax the pubic area do so for sexual reasons/because it's what their partners prefer, whereas other body hair is removed for social reasons or because people feel cleaner without it.
It's for sexual reasons but it feels cleaner too. Just like the underarms.


I understand why many people like to trim excessive pubic hair (it can be an issue with some of it showing beyond the edges of bathing suits and whatnot, which makes people self-conscious), but the idea of shaving/waxing all of it seems strange to me. I guess I agree with Thusnelda there - the prepubescent just isn't something I find attractive. ;)
What about women who have very light, almost unnoticeable body hair? What about other adult sexual characteristics like breast growth?

There is another reason, pubic hair like armpit hair holds sweat and germs. It's not very attractive and sexually appealing.

Wulfaz
Friday, February 24th, 2012, 04:13 PM
Earlier I thought the body hair removing is good idea side by side I never think disgusting or unhealthy the body hair be cause when I was children the armpit hair or other was the normal, the women removed only the leg hair. Side by side when I was teenager, the "stars" of the adult magazines and movies had trimmed pubic hair and the other hair disappeared from them. In the real life, some girl have full natural, some trimmed, some full shaved genital area. However nowadays the bodyhair have become public enemy, the cosmetic- and fashion industry wash the women's and nowadays the men's brains too that the bodyhair is unhealthy, etc. I thought it is not so "elegant" and a trimmed hair is better for a woman or man too.

Ca. five years a go one of my ex spoke about that the pubic hair is a defense line of the genitalia and the synthetic panties are absolutely unhealthy. Later I read about it in medical sites, and other, non-commerical places, and nowadays I know the body hair removing is one of the greatest business of the chemical and fashion industry, side by side self destruction for the people. The television is full of the anti-Candidal vulvovaginitis medicine commercials and body lotion for the tortured skin.

The pubic hair is truly the defense line of the genital area. The wool spogne up the sweet, defense the area against the mechanical impacts and dirt. The armpit hair spogne up the sweet too and transport to the air. The reason of the bad body small is the injured skin acid layer of the skin. The too much bath and the agressive chemicals destroy it and microorganism settled in the skin. The people with removed armhair use to be the truly stinky in the summer side by side the people with unbreathable synthetic garments. Compare with this that wintersportsmen and trekkers use to wear merino wool garments as base layer be cause wool spogne up the sweat and transport to the air, the wool is antibacterial, thus wool garment become later stinky than synthetics.

The other bodyhair, f.e. in the breast, belly, arms or legs are simply decoration of the human body like as the long hair or the facial hair too. Furthermore the measure of the body hair (and facial hair too) are different in the various human types. The males have more hair than females in same type. However f.e. the Atlanto-Mediterranids or the Alpinids have more bodyhair, males and females too, as the Baltids and East-Baltids have so few bodyhair. Thus an Atlanto-Mediterranid english woman can be more hairy than a Baltid russian. Interrestingly the reason of this difference of the sexual selection: some community in the past prefered the more hairy man or woman, some the lesser hairy individuals.

Furthermore absolutely relative what is more useful for the sexual activity. A beautiful bush is so womanish and exciting in contrast with the underage-like sphinx cat...

This is the point when we can see that the agitprop of the fashion industry is absolutely false and ridiculous as "the body hair is unattractive", "the bodyhair is unhealthy". Moreover such a cultural racism is when the females with natural bodyhair use to be described as "barbarian cavewoman". Absolutely interesting behaviour that the humans remove own natural decorations as beard, long hair or bodyhair and pay cash for new decors as useless garments, piercings, etc. side by side they clealry pursuit the individuals without this habit.

Sól
Friday, February 24th, 2012, 04:48 PM
A beautiful bush is so womanish and exciting in contrast with the underage-like sphinx cat...
It depends, not everyone prefers the same. That supports your point about races after all. Nordic Europeans have very few and blondish body hair. A full bush is more characteristic for Southern races. ;)

Although I see in a poll here the majority of men prefer absence of body hair.

http://forums.skadi.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3121

Wulfaz
Saturday, February 25th, 2012, 09:29 PM
It depends, not everyone prefers the same. That supports your point about races after all. Nordic Europeans have very few and blondish body hair. A full bush is more characteristic for Southern races. ;)

Atlanto-Mediterranid is not a typical southern type, it is common among in the all Atlantic shore, in Scotland too, thus with the celts this type is an element of icelandic people.

Check this nice middle-eastern body fur:

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_01/brosnanDM2910_228x378.jpg

Syrian rebel call the artillery support:

http://wetmen.provocateuse.com/images/photos/tom_selleck_01.jpg

Blond greek:

http://whiteglossyundergroundboard.files.wordpr ess.com/2011/07/chuck_norris_2.jpg

Is he Armenian or Jewish with this nice eyebrows? Stefán Atli seems rather an icelander name than Sicilian.

http://i027.radikal.ru/0801/e8/4ff8309168f0.jpg


I have some bad news for you: the Nordid type has moderate body hair, obiviously the woman lesser. I do not post here Nordid woman with full blond bush, however you easily find it in the net, if you want it.

The Tydal type has commonly strong unibrow what is common among British Islander. They are all Nordic Europeans, isn't it?


I am not Scandinavian, however I haven't got fur like Tom Selleck or Chuck Norris or others. And I don't like the generalisation and stereotyps too.



Although I see in a poll here the majority of men prefer absence of body hair.

http://forums.skadi.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3121

The majority of men think that the Earth is plan some hundred years ago. Probably the opinion of the mass is not necessary right. This is just a impact of the mass media, moreover probably they never do with hairy woman or never seen video from this.

Befor the 20th century the greater bush was the mark of the fertility and lust in Europe. Some year ago I red somewhere the Danish authorities in the 19th noted that the prostitutes have the greatest bush. I could think that all the Danish prostitute were sicilian, isn't it?

The bushy genital area of women in the makr of the fertility in nowadays Far-East. That is the reason why all the japanese or other porn model have bush, however smaller, they have robust, straight pubic hair in smaller area than Europeans. The Korean plastic surgeries use to do pubic implant operation where they implant head hair in the genital are to make greater the fermales pubic hair.

Probably some billion people is more than the number of Germanics here. What did you said with the majority?


http://www.chinatraveldiscovery.com/image/culture/chinese-family-relationship.jpg

Thusnelda
Sunday, February 26th, 2012, 09:38 PM
What about women who have very light, almost unnoticeable body hair?
Why should this be a problem at all? Itīs not about the color of the body hair (most Germanics differ between blonde and dark brown anyway, and purely black hair is to 99% absent among Germanics) or its level of visibility, but about the practice of shaving in general: Itīs an unnatural, in my mind superfluous procedure which damages the skin to some extend, sets a questionable beauty ideal and which is largely imported by desert cultures (please read my posts made earlier in this or the other thread, like about Mohammed and his duties for Muslims, including shaving body hair).

What about other adult sexual characteristics like breast growth?
Well, I canīt understand why you bring this up as the development of sexual characteristics is a purely natural run of events, and I support naturality - thatīs why Iīm against shaving to begin with. And like breast growth, body hair are also a sign of maturity and fertility. :)

There is another reason, pubic hair like armpit hair holds sweat and germs. It's not very attractive and sexually appealing.
Again, please read some of my earlier posts. The hygiene argument is redundant because most people wash and shower every day so the horror image of abhorrent scent and germs is completely overstated. ;) What is true indeed is that body hair are transmitters for individual scents and pheromones. Pheromones play an important role as an unconscious "compatibility" checker for potential partners, so they have their sense and justification. Our body and mind checks the pheromones of other people and thatīs the reason why we seem to instantly like or dislike people. One could say that people who cover their normal scents and pheromones behind a wall of perfume alter reality and confuse our senses.

It depends, not everyone prefers the same. That supports your point about races after all. Nordic Europeans have very few and blondish body hair. A full bush is more characteristic for Southern races. ;)
Thatīs a myth refuted by science because most humans have the same amount of body hair, the difference is in the visibility (due to the color) and in the thickness. Southern Europeans or Southern people in general have darker and thicker hairs (all non Europeans with black hair) which may give the impression that theyīre more hairy. But I agree with you that people with pitch-black hair look unpleasant, but thatīs no issue for us Germanic preservationists anyway because we donīt date such people. :)

Although I see in a poll here the majority of men prefer absence of body hair.

http://forums.skadi.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3121
Obviously, mainstream media and propaganda (and maybe even the horrible porn business in some cases) have left their impact even among Germanic preservationists. :( One reason more to fight against wrong stereotypes regarding body hair.

Sól
Friday, March 16th, 2012, 11:39 PM
Obviously, mainstream media and propaganda (and maybe even the horrible porn business in some cases) have left their impact even among Germanic preservationists. :( One reason more to fight against wrong stereotypes regarding body hair.
I take issue with that because I don't think there should be just one stereotype about body hair. I don't think it's right to replace one trend with another for the sake of it, like these Dove commercials replace the idea of beauty with chubby, fat or wrinkly because they're concerned about thinness in the media. Slim and fit women have become outcasts nowadays, because of a few extremes and eating disordered. But no matter how many men will say they like some cushion, I will still stick to my opinion that the most attractive women are those athletic and fit women.

Beauty comes in many shapes, my point is, if a woman enjoys the feeling of hairless skin, then she shouldn't be made to feel like an outcast or criminal about it either. I don't tell other women how they should groom themselves, I just have my opinions and preferences but at the end of the day it's everyone's choice and it should stay that way. :)

Thusnelda
Sunday, March 18th, 2012, 09:37 PM
I take issue with that because I don't think there should be just one stereotype about body hair. I don't think it's right to replace one trend with another for the sake of it, like these Dove commercials replace the idea of beauty with chubby, fat or wrinkly because they're concerned about thinness in the media.
I would completely agree with you but at the moment the mainstream supports and mediates only one "stereotype" about body hair while any other preferences and views become matter of ridicule and condemnation. Either youīre with the mass and "In" (=shaving) or you are like a outcast from a different world with strange views at best. The media and the mainstream portray it as if there was only one viable option for a woman to look like.


Beauty comes in many shapes, my point is, if a woman enjoys the feeling of hairless skin, then she shouldn't be made to feel like an outcast or criminal about it either.
But quite the opposite is the case.

I don't tell other women how they should groom themselves, I just have my opinions and preferences but at the end of the day it's everyone's choice and it should stay that way. :)
You see me nodding in approval. :)

Svanhild
Thursday, March 29th, 2012, 02:20 PM
Aww yea, such a juicy topic in all public? :fbath:

Just trimming here, it's the suitable compromise between looking like a primeval forest and looking like a baby girl. No one ever complained. Armpit hair are made to snip off though.

@Thusnelda: You are kinda hardcore, huh? What do your partners say?

hyidi
Friday, March 30th, 2012, 07:37 AM
Yes!

I shave my bikini-line and legs. I get my eyebrows and armpits wax.

I have blond body hair so there is no need to remove hair from my Moe' my back' my stomach.

Thusnelda
Friday, March 30th, 2012, 08:45 PM
@Thusnelda: You are kinda hardcore, huh? What do your partners say?
Well, I donīt think that itīs "hardcore" to stay natural and accept naturality. :| If something had to be titled with that term then Iīd nominate the practice of waxing which is nothing else than intentional bodily injury. And my partners had no problem with my body care, thanks for asking. Would you be so kind to mind your own business please? :oanieyes

Sefo
Friday, March 30th, 2012, 09:04 PM
I think that would certainly have to be a cultural difference then. No offense meant (really). But if your a woman and you go without shaving your body hair in America your going to be the least popular person in any social gathering and you'll have a very hard time finding a dude that doesnt look like he came from the movie "Deliverance".

Thusnelda
Saturday, March 31st, 2012, 01:35 AM
I think that would certainly have to be a cultural difference then. No offense meant (really). But if your a woman and you go without shaving your body hair in America your going to be the least popular person in any social gathering and you'll have a very hard time finding a dude that doesnt look like he came from the movie "Deliverance".
So youīre attending all your social gatherings fully naked? And if you go out for a date, you wear nothing on your skin as well? :-O

Because how should the people I meet know how I look when I wear clothes? Itīs not like that you run around naked all day...;) The only ones who are allowed to see me naked are my closest relatives, my doctors and potential boyfriends.

I donīt have really noteworthy problems in socializing and there are far more important topics to talk about. On the very rare occasions where the topic boils down to this very issue, I explain my position and the people who I consider as friends are very understandable. Here in rural Bavaria people arenīt that superficial and pigeonholing so if you get along with each other chances are high that you have friends for life. The amount of media victims and excessive callomania is not as high as in urban areas. Many people still have a healthy connection to the natural development their bodies.

Sefo
Saturday, March 31st, 2012, 06:13 AM
Right... well I think you were able to understand my point. Here in America, if you are a woman, and you have armpit hair sticking out where people can see it (say your wearing a dress or tanktop) your gonna be shunned. Just saying. That is not considered attractive here at all. Quite the opposite. If your wearing shorts and your legs are more hairy than a dudes... well you get the point.

However you feel about it, I'm just saying, it is what it is.

I dont date women with hairy armpits or legs, and neither do most guys in America. I was just pointing out an obvious cultural difference.

Huginn ok Muninn
Saturday, March 31st, 2012, 07:00 AM
Right... well I think you were able to understand my point. Here in America, if you are a woman, and you have armpit hair sticking out where people can see it (say your wearing a dress or tanktop) your gonna be shunned. Just saying. That is not considered attractive here at all. Quite the opposite. If your wearing shorts and your legs are more hairy than a dudes... well you get the point.

However you feel about it, I'm just saying, it is what it is.

I dont date women with hairy armpits or legs, and neither do most guys in America. I was just pointing out an obvious cultural difference.

I'm sure that's no problem for her, since she's unlikely to date most crude, insulting Americans either.

Ward
Saturday, March 31st, 2012, 07:15 AM
Right... well I think you were able to understand my point. Here in America, if you are a woman, and you have armpit hair sticking out where people can see it (say your wearing a dress or tanktop) your gonna be shunned.

Yes, it's perfectly okay and uncontroversial in America for a white woman to procreate with a negro, but God forbid she doesn't shave her armpits!

Seems to me our priorities are pretty jacked up.


I dont date women with hairy armpits or legs, and neither do most guys in America.

So you’re saying that if a woman like, say, Kirsten Dunst didn’t shave it would be a deal breaker for you? If so, I’d have to call into question your heterosexual credentials. In any case, if a woman is physically attractive, she’s going to be physically attractive whether she shaves or not, MTV beauty standards be damned.

Thusnelda
Saturday, March 31st, 2012, 02:04 PM
Right... well I think you were able to understand my point. Here in America, if you are a woman, and you have armpit hair sticking out where people can see it (say your wearing a dress or tanktop) your gonna be shunned. Just saying.
Well, then some of your people (thankfully not all - some of the best users on Skadi are Americans) have seriously messed-up views of "normality" when they consider forcefully circumcised men as the appropriate norm and European women with almost unremarkable light and natural body hair as "condemnable". :oanieyes I guess you can thank your media and the ruling caste for such almost perverse brainwashing and reeducation of the masses. :|

I dont date women with hairy armpits or legs, and neither do most guys in America. I was just pointing out an obvious cultural difference.
Thatīs such a superficial stance, I canīt find any more words. So all emotional compatibility, all beauty and all positive character traits are void if there are some tiny hair where nature wants them to be on human bodies?

:jew: <- He did succeed if you think like that about European women.

SaxonPagan
Saturday, March 31st, 2012, 04:16 PM
I have to go with Sefo and Heidi on this one. I find women with no hair (in certain parts) more attractive and I can't really do much about this - it's just a visual thing :shrug I realise that character, emotional compatibilty and suchlike are important factors too but, all things being equal, I'd much prefer a woman who shaves to one who doesn't.

This is perhaps widening the issue slightly but I don't even like a lot of body hair on males and seem to have developed some on my torso recently that I could well do without :| I suppose you either like the stuff or you don't but I do think it's more acceptable for men.

Sefo
Saturday, March 31st, 2012, 04:22 PM
Yes, it's perfectly okay and uncontroversial in America for a white woman to procreate with a negro, but God forbid she doesn't shave her armpits!

Seems to me our priorities are pretty jacked up.

Well that had absolutely nothing to do with what I said, but ok. Sure.



So you’re saying that if a woman like, say, Kirsten Dunst didn’t shave it would be a deal breaker for you? If so, I’d have to call into question your heterosexual credentials. In any case, if a woman is physically attractive, she’s going to be physically attractive whether she shaves or not, MTV beauty standards be damned.

Your questioning my sexuality because i'm not attracted to hairy women? lol OK whatever buddy. I guess most straight men in America must really be gay. Its all a conspiracy. :D

Wulfaz
Thursday, April 5th, 2012, 06:43 PM
I think we have a new term:

the Pilophobia (latin Pilus, Pili means hair) what is a new, modern mental disorder when the people hate own body/facial hair by the brainwasher media and the fashion-chemical industry. If the media spread that the eyebrows are disguisting, you would shave your eyebrow? Or? Why do not shave your heads? Buy wig what is easy-car and anti-bacterial! Buy different wig for every day of a week that your wig pass your shoes! Consume! Consume! Consume!

EQ Fighter
Thursday, April 5th, 2012, 07:43 PM
Right... well I think you were able to understand my point. Here in America, if you are a woman, and you have armpit hair sticking out where people can see it (say your wearing a dress or tanktop) your gonna be shunned. Just saying. That is not considered attractive here at all. Quite the opposite. If your wearing shorts and your legs are more hairy than a dudes... well you get the point.

However you feel about it, I'm just saying, it is what it is.

I don’t date women with hairy armpits or legs, and neither do most guys in America. I was just pointing out an obvious cultural difference.

Well to be Realistic, in the past the outfits and clothing worn by women were not quite as revealing as they are today.

And there in I think lies the problem, in the modern world a woman in shorts or a mini is going to look a bit odd, if she does not shave her legs.

I think it all boils down to the outfit and what would be appropriate.

Þoreiðar
Thursday, April 5th, 2012, 07:51 PM
Well to be Realistic, in the past the outfits and clothing worn by women were not quite as revealing as they are today.Sure they did. :)

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/7bc/655/7bc655b4-bb5d-43f2-a613-195fb2c080b4

EQ Fighter
Friday, April 6th, 2012, 12:04 AM
Sure they did. :)

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/7bc/655/7bc655b4-bb5d-43f2-a613-195fb2c080b4

I was referring more along the lines of the 1700- 1900. Also that was more of a ceremonial outfit I think.

SaxonPagan
Friday, April 6th, 2012, 01:07 AM
I think we have a new term:

the Pilophobia (latin Pilus, Pili means hair) what is a new, modern mental disorder when the people hate own body/facial hair by the brainwasher media and the fashion-chemical industry. If the media spread that the eyebrows are disguisting, you would shave your eyebrow? Or? Why do not shave your heads? Buy wig what is easy-car and anti-bacterial! Buy different wig for every day of a week that your wig pass your shoes! Consume! Consume! Consume!

I think we're getting things slightly out of proportion here, Wulfaz ;)

I have a preference for shaven parts of the body and think females with no/little body hair look better than the hairier ladies.

I'm sorry, but this does not make me a 'media victim'. There are dozens of things the media promotes that I totally disregard, so when I just happen to fall in line (of my own volition!) with something they're plugging that doesn't necessarily mean I've been 'brainwashed'. After all, there are only TWO options to chose from in this instance - you shave or you don't!

I've also stated that, personally, I'd rather not have a hairy chest but that doesn't mean I hate my own body - another overreaction! I would simply prefer it hairless (as it once was) if I had the choice but this is no big deal; I'm merely being honest and can assure you there's no mental disorder involved :D

I think we have to keep things in perspective and not assume that those who shave their legs will also remove their eyebrows if ordered to do so. I could use a similar logic and claim that women who let hair grow on their legs have a secret desire to grow beards as well but I don't go in for such amateur psychology, which invariable leads to stupid conclusions!

Why can we not just accept that people have different tastes and leave it at that, rather than suspecting a fiendish plot led by the fashion-chemical industry? :shrug Whilst I don't doubt that they're after a fast buck (like all industries!) this is definitely a demand-led phenomenon rather than an attempt to impose a new fashion on the public.

Sefo
Sunday, April 8th, 2012, 10:52 PM
Well to be Realistic, in the past the outfits and clothing worn by women were not quite as revealing as they are today.

And there in I think lies the problem, in the modern world a woman in shorts or a mini is going to look a bit odd, if she does not shave her legs.

I think it all boils down to the outfit and what would be appropriate.

Well there is certainly more to it then that. Even if she is covered head to toe in a ski suit every day of the week.... when its time to get down to bumpin ugly's...... the ski suit is coming off and if she's got as much hair on her as I do then Its going to be a big problem. No getting around that. :|

reenreen
Tuesday, April 17th, 2012, 10:44 PM
Well, I think shaving hair or even cutting hair is pretty useless i mean it grows back all the time! Why waste time dealing with it? :) I used to shave my pits, legs, and pubic hair all the time and i tried just growing everything out and i liked it! It just feels more natural to me and not fake. Right now, i do shave my pits, legs, and pubic hair just because i feel like it at this point, but eventually i am going to grow everything out again. :D

Wulfaz
Monday, April 30th, 2012, 06:27 PM
Well, I think this thread is more important than a simple fashion habit as the moderate/strong body- and facial hair are typical and only Europid traits. F.e. the full blood negros, the far-easterns or the American Natives haven't got androgenic hair like the europeans moreover in some cases they haven't got any facial or body hair. The native males notoriously haven't got beard or moustache, sometimes they have some hair, but they remove it. Some tropical tribes haven't got any genital hair. The Mongolids' body is full hairless expect the genital area, someone of them hasn't got eyebrow.

Originally the hair removal would be an american habit what planed by the christian (futhermore the jewish, semitic) tradition that the bodyhair is impure, sinful and tempter. In the past the genital hair was the sign of fertility and lust in Europe. Note: the muslim women and man remove own pubic- and armpithair nowaday too. It is documented that the removal of pubic- and armpit hair is not healthy, moreover it crocks the skin- and vagina flora (lately in case of women, of course). However I think nowadays the body and facial hair removal is the part of the uniformisation of the human types, the tools of the racemixer globalist. I am not a chink man, however I am quite sure a Mongolid one without any western cultural impact would find the natural european women as hairy monkey (like as the nowadays european women describe and discrimine the natural women as hairy monkey, barbarian, redneck etc.) It is quite similar to the forced habit of sun tanning or the using of solarium. The white skin is typical Europid trait. If you see some old paints or the older roman mural f.e. in Pompeii the women will be pales always (household works) and the males will have tan (field work, fishing). The too much sun is not healthy for the women as all the same the sun create vitamin D in the skin but it destroy the Folic acid what is necessary to the healthy develop of the embryo. However they need extra vitamin D and the tanned skin generate lesser. These are the reasons why the males prefer the white, rosy-white skinned female ones naturally, without the modern fashion impact. Moreover I have wroten the sun generate the vitamin D in the skin what is a hormon what is necessary to the healthy function of the human organism: it make stronger the immun system, the neurvous system, the bones, etc. The humans with dark skin or tanned skin in our temperate zone cannot synthetize enough vitamin D in autumn and winter, thus the lack of vitamin D can grow the hazards of cancer, mental diseases, rickets, bone fractures, etc. (Note the sunscreen obstruct the synthetisation of vitamin D as it stops the UVB radiation.)



Summa summarum: the white skin and the moderate androgenic hair are traditional european female features and the ethos of the smooth, tanned female is an anti-germanic globalist racemixer propaganda idol, moreover an unhealthy, dangerous fashion habit.






Average distribution of body hair in Europid males and females from Wikipedia — some type is more hairy (f.e. Atlanto-Mediterranid) some type is lesser haiy (f.e. Baltid) than these samples:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Androgenic_hair.svg/2000px-Androgenic_hair.svg.png





White skin is ideal in winter conditions:

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=110786&stc=1&d=1335806359



Nauturally tanned skin is useful in summertime (check sign of naturally tann: the outer part of arm is darker, the face is lighter, etc.):

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=110787&stc=1&d=1335806359

Schneider
Monday, April 30th, 2012, 06:43 PM
"Well there is certainly more to it then that. Even if she is covered head to toe in a ski suit every day of the week.... when its time to get down to bumpin ugly's...... the ski suit is coming off and if she's got as much hair on her as I do then Its going to be a big problem. No getting around that. "


I have known a few women who do not conform to modern popular culture expectations and I married one.


Hair is better than stubble any day.

Unity Mitford
Monday, April 30th, 2012, 06:51 PM
I'm a fan of smooth legs, but removing all the pubes is a no-no, unless you want to look like a child or a porn 'star' :P

Thusnelda
Monday, April 30th, 2012, 08:18 PM
Originally the hair removal would be an american habit what planed by the christian (futhermore the jewish, semitic) tradition that the bodyhair is impure, sinful and tempter. In the past the genital hair was the sign of fertility and lust in Europe. Note: the muslim women and man remove own pubic- and armpithair nowaday too.
They always did, itīs even a rule in Islam religion made by Muhammed.

"Muhammad said: Ten are the acts according to fitra: clipping the mustache, letting the beard grow, using the tooth-stick, snuffing water in the nose, cutting the nails, washing the finger joints, plucking the hair under the armpits, shaving the pubic hair and cleaning one's private parts with water. The narrator said: I have forgotten the tenth, but it may have been rinsing the mouth."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitra

Are we Germanic or are we following semitic rules from the desert?

Well, all I can say is that my skin is way more healthier since I stopped with the shaving habit years ago. I have no more problems of dryness, reddenings, spots or similar skin irritations.

And at the male direction: No, shaved chests are not masculine or sexy. Chicken breasts! :P

hyidi
Tuesday, May 1st, 2012, 12:01 PM
I'm a fan of smooth legs, but removing all the pubes is a no-no, unless you want to look like a child or a porn 'star' :P

I completely agree. 'Going bold' you are going back to childhood. Many men love bold though??? maybe cause it reminds them of a child? :-O:thumbdown
A landing strip is best, Its adulthood and I had one. If I could bare the pain all over again I would had kept It up. I shave now.

Schneider
Tuesday, May 1st, 2012, 12:32 PM
"I completely agree. 'Going bold' you are going back to childhood. Many men love bold though??? maybe cause it reminds them of a child? :-O:thumbdown"


I have read/heard this comment often and I feel it is an insulting stereotype. If a man prefers hairless it is no different than a woman who prefers a man with no beard. Or is she also a child molester at heart?

hyidi
Tuesday, May 1st, 2012, 01:03 PM
So so often, men put loads of pressure on ladies to look young and to be completely bold downstairs, now that Is telling you something, something like child looks! And not to mention' Men love being bold themselves. Its something that I can not relate too or connect with because I am (and most women) are not attracted to child looks.

Wulfram
Tuesday, May 1st, 2012, 01:35 PM
Many men love bold though??? maybe cause it reminds them of a child?

Just men? :P I could counter you're claim by saying that many women "go bold" because they want to simulate a child-like body for their male partners. But this would be just as ridiculous.


Its something that I can not relate too or connect with because I am (and most women) are not attracted to child looks.

From what I have been told over the years the main reason most men prefer shaved pubes is that it allows them an easier view of the genitals, which increases the excitement. Many also do not like the feel of pubic hairs during intercourse.

Personally I have preferred the unshaved look for quite some time now. I like hairy legs and do not cringe at all when I see a woman with armpit hair. In fact when I was younger I used to think my preference was along the lines of a fetish. This of course was due to my upbringing in a home where the women shaved, as dictated to them by American society.

Schneider
Tuesday, May 1st, 2012, 03:34 PM
So so often, men put loads of pressure on ladies to look young and to be completely bold downstairs, now that Is telling you something, something like child looks! And not to mention' Men love being bold themselves. Its something that I can not relate too or connect with because I am (and most women) are not attracted to child looks.

Society also puts pressure on men to shave. So much so that the US Supreme Court ruled that the practice of not hiring bearded men was discriminatory. ("Never trust a bearded man")

Many women consider beards disgusting and unpleasant. For example, I have a mustache right now and my wife says I look like a 1970's porn star. (I am not sure if that is good or bad?)

I have never met a man that removed his pubic hair regularly. In our culture that would be a sign of homosexuality.


For any reason a person could come up with for a man to shave I can counter with the same reason for a woman to shave. Yet, my wife doesn't shave at all, and don't even notice. Unless we are in public and I feel outside the accepted norms in American culture. Yes, it is somehow so engrained in me that I am embarrassed. The same reason I will shave and get a hair cut when ever visiting Grandparents.

Germaid
Tuesday, May 1st, 2012, 04:00 PM
I think the argument that completely shaved women resemble children is invalid. You can distinguish between an adult and a child at first glance. Going "bald" / unshaved / landing strip is rather a matter of personal taste. This also applies to men, they usually don't turn into little boys when shaved or trimmed. I prefer it trimmed on men. All other hair can remain. Concerning women, I prefer the current beauty ideal, which is shaved. Armpit hair is ugly on both genders and should be removed.

I think people can do with their bodies as they please and in RL I would never tell anybody what to do or not, it is none of my business.

hyidi
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 06:41 AM
I think the argument that completely shaved women resemble children is invalid. You can distinguish between an adult and a child at first glance. Not If the men are only looking at one spot, a bold female private spot. That alone would make men think they are looking at a child, even when she an adult. This is why men request their women to shave It all off completely, makes men feel they are looking at a child's thing and makes men think they are In a sexual relationship with a young child girl. :thumbdown

Men cant use the excuse that there is too bushy pubic hair down there because most women keep It trimmed and have a short landing strips. Why do men still request a bold female spot?

PS- I never asked a man to go bold, only trimmed downed. And I am not a feminist, I hate feminists.

Sól
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 11:36 AM
They always did, itīs even a rule in Islam religion made by Muhammed.

"Muhammad said: Ten are the acts according to fitra: clipping the mustache, letting the beard grow, using the tooth-stick, snuffing water in the nose, cutting the nails, washing the finger joints, plucking the hair under the armpits, shaving the pubic hair and cleaning one's private parts with water. The narrator said: I have forgotten the tenth, but it may have been rinsing the mouth."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitra

Are we Germanic or are we following semitic rules from the desert?
Using the tooth-stick, cutting the nails, cleaning one's private parts with water are also up there. Should we stop doing that too, to become true Germanics again? I'm sorry, but it makes no sense. :)

Associating shaving the private parts with pedophilia is insulting and ridiculous. :thumbdown I can't even see that. The genital area of a child looks totally different from the (shaved) genital area of an adult woman. I don't think I'm the only one who can see it?! If the absence of hair makes it difficult to distinguish then I think those people should reevaluate their knowledge in anatomy.

So please, stay natural if you prefer it, but don't insult the rest of us women who prefer to shave and our partners who like it as pedophiles. That goes too far.

Wulfram
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 12:21 PM
Not If the men are only looking at one spot, a bold female private spot. That alone would make men think they are looking at a child, even when she an adult.

How many actual men have you met that told you this is the exact reason? So far all I'm seeing is you're own personal take on this with no evidence to back it up.


This is why men request their women to shave It all off completely, makes men feel they are looking at a child's thing and makes men think they are In a sexual relationship with a young child girl. :thumbdown

I have had male friends in the past who preferred woman this way and I can assure you they hated child molesters every bit as much as I do. They did not prefer them this way because deep down they really wanted intercourse with a child.


Men cant use the excuse that there is too bushy pubic hair down there because most women keep It trimmed and have a short landing strips. Why do men still request a bold female spot?

You avoided my earlier response to you:

"From what I have been told over the years the main reason most men prefer shaved pubes is that it allows them an easier view of the genitals, which increases the excitement. Many also do not like the feel of pubic hairs during intercourse."

Sól
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 12:27 PM
"From what I have been told over the years the main reason most men prefer shaved pubes is that it allows them an easier view of the genitals, which increases the excitement. Many also do not like the feel of pubic hairs during intercourse."
Exactly right. I'm no man (obviously :D) but I think that's the reason shaved is preferable to some.

I'll try not to be too graphic, but: a shaved area is more exposed and this increases the excitement during both oral sex and intercourse.

If preference for shaved equaled pedophilia then many men if not the majority today would be pedophiles at heart, which is bloody ridiculous. ;)

hyidi
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 12:55 PM
And yet, Its funny how men make women go bold but they are hairy themselves! Leads to one thing!

Unity Mitford
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 01:06 PM
And yet, Its funny how men make women go bold but they are hairy themselves! Leads to one thing!

I don't think anyone makes anyone do anything. ;) Not in a normal adult relationship.

hyidi
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 01:16 PM
I don't think anyone makes anyone do anything.

You must be in a relationship with one man (that cares for you respects you) for a very long time.

Wulfram
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 01:17 PM
And yet, Its funny how men make women go bold but they are hairy themselves! Leads to one thing!

In what way do men "make" a woman go bold? Are you talking about actual force here? Have you ever actually seen a man threaten a woman if she did not comply with his requests for her to resemble a child? You aren't giving women enough credit here. You are implying that they are too naive or stupid to understand the underlying reasons(Which you have made up). Did you consider the fact that the reason many women go bold has nothing at all do to with a man?

Having read through you're posts in this thread I have come to the conclusion that you are attempting to demonize men. Not once have you ever said that women can be just as guilty of what you claim.

Unity Mitford
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 01:23 PM
Yes, there is a difference between feeling social pressure and being forced to do something :)

However, unless a woman is a lesbian, I highly doubt reasons for removing all pubic hair would be 'nothing to do with a man' - this fad is driven by the porn industry and the desire to please.

Wulfram
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 01:29 PM
Yes, there is a difference between feeling social pressure and being forced to do something :)

I was talking about heidi's claim that women are made to shave their pubes.


Unless a woman is a lesbian, I highly doubt reasons for removing all pubic hair would be 'nothing to do with a man' - this fad is driven by the porn industry and the desire to please.

How many actual women have you met that shave told you this? Do you have a source that proves women did not shave before the porn industry influenced them to?

hyidi
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 01:29 PM
In what way do men "make" a woman go bold?
They nag! even when you get a landing strip, It's not good enough!



Having read through you're posts in this thread I have come to the conclusion that you are attempting to demonize men. Not once have you ever said that women can be just as guilty of what you claim.I love men too much. How would I know If women are just as guilty? I don't date women. That is up to you to tell me, If women are guilty. you date women, right?

It goes with the whole body too. Men are aloud to be hairy but yet, women have to be hairless otherwise we are not good enough. So many women shave and wax (Including me) to make sure we are good enough, and It seems we are never good enough for men. That is why women spend billions on beauty products each year.

Sól
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 01:34 PM
None can be forced to shave and if your boyfriend demands it, you can tell him you won't for your own reasons or even leave him. It would be superficial but everyone has preferences.

I'm a lesbian but I'm currently not seeing anyone and I don't shave pubic hairs because of other women. Shaving or trimming is just more comfortable and hygienic to me. It's the same with underarms. These hairs can trap sweat and other bodily fluids. You can feel it if you wear synthetic underwear which is popular these days, or if you wear pads when you have the periods. Ok, I won't go in more depth but you know what I mean. It's my choice and most people can't see it anyway. Social pressure, media, have no role here. ;)

Wulfram
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 01:41 PM
They nag! even when you get a landing strip, It's not good enough!

You have fabricated this whole thing because I feel that you are angry with men. You have never once seen a man request this of a woman because he wants her to look like a child. Just admit it.


How would I know If women are just as guilty? I don't date women. That is up to you to tell me, If women are guilty.

You don't have to "date" a woman to know her feelings on the matter. You are the very first woman I have come across who thinks like this.


It goes with the whole body too. Men are aloud to be hairy but yet, women have to be hairless otherwise we are not good enough.

There are far more men out there, like myself, who would never apply such pressure on a woman to either shave, or not shave.


So many women shave and wax (Including me) to make sure we are good enough, and It seems we are never good enough for men. That is why women spend billions on beauty products each year.

You say "men" as if we are all like this and that we are this way by nature. :thumbdown

hyidi
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 01:57 PM
You claim you are not a feminist and yet this argument is one I have heard from them time and again. You say "men" as if we are all like this and that we are this way by nature
I'm pretty sure I stated my case on feminist and women's rights and equality is bull-crap, men being breed winners I agree with!!!! feminist Is my pet hate along side Jews and migrants. I am loud to express my feeling on how I feel what men want.

I don't know why you brought up feminists as a comeback? do you do this often when you a dealing with a women? I'm actually on the man's side when it come to feminists. ;)

hyidi
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 02:06 PM
Wulfram- public sorry. I apologize. Not all men are pricks.

Þoreiðar
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 03:17 PM
It goes with the whole body too. Men are aloud to be hairy but yet, women have to be hairless otherwise we are not good enough.I don't know about 'not being good enough', but the different views on body hair on respectively females and males, lies in the popular perception of the 'rugged and hairy body' being a masculine trait, while the 'smooth and hairless body' being seen as a feminine one.

This ideal of the human body might not be in line with how nature has made us, but no 'progress' ever is. Man was not made to eat the amounts of flesh we to today, or wear insulative clothing, either, but we explored fire and invented sowing and gradually accustomed ourselves to a new path. In our previous times, we have had great advantages from growing heavy, protective body hair, but today, such a trait is of no use to us, and may just as well be 'phased out', in regards to this perspective.

As for the matter of physical attraction, I have no strong stance in either favor, and would never think of making an issue out of it with any future partner. Still, I would prefer her to be less hairy than myself, at the very least. :P

hyidi
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 05:09 PM
Don't get me wrong, it's good to shave and wax.And I do.
men should be willing to meet half way. it's too much when they start to request this And that. I go the extra mile with a landing strip, what more do they want?

Landing strip looks cute btw! Better than bold! But, men do have funny taste :P

Thusnelda
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 08:45 PM
This also applies to men, they usually don't turn into little boys when shaved or trimmed.
Sorry but I donīt perceive these men who go for the current metro-sexual ideal as real men. :| Shaved chests? Shaved arm hair? Shaved legs? No! Thatīs not a man, thatīs a wuss. ;)

But again, tastes differ.

Using the tooth-stick, cutting the nails, cleaning one's private parts with water are also up there. Should we stop doing that too, to become true Germanics again? I'm sorry, but it makes no sense. :)
Well, I quoted the passage to prove that shaving is a rule in Muslim religion and not to discredit perfectly normal and hygienic customs. While cleaning oneīs private parts or using the tooth-stick are related with hygiene and even health, shaving the body hair is neither related to hygiene nor to health.

Associating shaving the private parts with pedophilia is insulting and ridiculous. :thumbdown
While itīs not directly related to pedophilia it is related with the wish to look young or with the wish to have a partner who looks young(er) at specific body parts.

While (by far majority) not all men who prefer shaved women are pedophiles or have pedophile tendencies, all pedophiles prefer girls without body hair. And itīs a fact that the porn industry of the late 80ies and 90ies set the trend for the mainstream nowadays, the porn industry was the main pacemaker.

The genital area of a child looks totally different from the (shaved) genital area of an adult woman. I don't think I'm the only one who can see it?! If the absence of hair makes it difficult to distinguish then I think those people should reevaluate their knowledge in anatomy.
I donīt know why I have to inform you about our own anatomy now, but the two main differences regarding the genital area between a girl and a woman are the larger labia (due to puberty) and the pubic hair (due to puberty as well). I donīt think that the differences are tremendous.

By the way, the fact stands that pubic hair are a sign of adolescence or adulthood and of fertility which are both feminine traits.


I'll try not to be too graphic, but: a shaved area is more exposed and this increases the excitement during both oral sex and intercourse.
The physical or bodily excitement during intercourse has nothing to do with the question of being shaved or not shaved. In both cases the body functions for experiencing "entertainment" ;) are intact. You are talking about psychical preconditions who are always a matter of upbringing and open to internal or external persuasion.

In what way do men "make" a woman go bold? Are you talking about actual force here? Have you ever actually seen a man threaten a woman if she did not comply with his requests for her to resemble a child?
I canīt talk for Heidixx here but one of my former boyfriends was discontented with the way I am below the clothes and after I made clear that Iīm not going to change for him the (short) relationship broke apart. So it wasnīt the only reason for the split but it had a fundamental influence on the outcome.


I'm a lesbian but I'm currently not seeing anyone and I don't shave pubic hairs because of other women. Shaving or trimming is just more comfortable and hygienic to me.
Please not the same prejudice and misrepresentation of reality again. :thumbdown It has nothing to with matters of hygiene if daily washing and body care are part of the daily program. Let me repeat what I said earlier in this thread:


Sweat only begins to smell when itīs old or stale. Fresh sweat doesnīt smell. With regular basic hygiene (like showering), smell isnīt a problem at all. And furthermore, natural body smell (Iīm not talking about unwashed and dirty stinkers, of course) contains scents who are important for creating attachment to each other and for bonding, they also tell others subconsciously who you are and if you fit together. The sayings "I canīt reek you!" or "I like your smell" have a reason. Often people feel that they like or canīt stand someone but they canīt find a clear reason for this "bodily" (or subconscious) decision. Then chances are high that your body finds the scents of the other one compatible or incompatible with yourself, therefore the sympathy or rejection. If someone shaves and waxes like a maniac and covers behind a wall of artificial deodorants, he or she takes away a natural selection capability.


By the way, when it comes to professional act photography (the only form of erotic I watch and support) then the percentage of men and women with natural or at least trimmed body hair is at about 50% or more! Only the bulk of dirty, cheap and lowbrow porn (=95% of the content seen on all major sex sites) conveys the image that women must be completely shaved because thatīs what the male consumers want so see and because the fashion trend says that this has to be the norm.

It's the same with underarms. These hairs can trap sweat and other bodily fluids.
One of the body regions which sweats the most is the head. Do you shave your head and eyebrows to prevent sweating? :reyesw

Germaid
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 08:57 PM
Sorry but I donīt perceive these men who go for the current metro-sexual ideal as real men. :| Shaved chests? Shaved arm hair? Shaved legs? No! Thatīs not a man, thatīs a wuss. ;)

But again, tastes differ.


God forbid, no "beauty boys", I was speaking of pubic hair. Nobody wants a scratching, stubbly chest or legs smoother than mine :D

Thusnelda
Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012, 09:07 PM
Posting photos of nude people (even if photographed in a professional and non-pornographic way) is against our Skadi rules so I canīt show examples of men and women who look perfectly and highly masculine and feminine WITH their natural body hair. :| Iīm sure most male users would find these women extremely attractive AND feminine. Maybe even our lesbian Gudrun. :P

A woman who looks like a bulldog wonīt be more feminine over night just because she shaved. ;) Shaving is no factor at all when it comes to true beauty.

hyidi
Thursday, May 3rd, 2012, 04:11 AM
Sorry but I donīt perceive these men who go for the current metro-sexual ideal as real men. Shaved chests? Shaved arm hair? Shaved legs? No! Thatīs not a man, thatīs a wuss.
There is something about male body hair when It touches our skin. Kind of exhilarates our feelings even getting us in a aroused mood. Body hair Is natural substance to the human body and I am thinking this Is why males have lots of body hair for the reasons I just stated.
I love men with hairy arms and legs with a shadow beard,I love the feeling when it touches my skin. I won't feel the same feeling with a man that is totally wax and shaved completely.

Sigurd
Saturday, May 5th, 2012, 09:31 AM
Still, I would prefer her to be less hairy than myself, at the very least. :P

Unless she suffers from grand-scale hirsutism coupled with ridiculously dark hair, then this is basically a given amongst most women from the stock you should be dating. I'm not exactly a bear or ape when it comes to natural body hair, yet I still had more than any woman I ever dated would be able to grow if she tried. ;)


men should be willing to meet half way. [...] But, men do have funny taste :P

Oftentimes, it has gone so far that women magically assume that we'd be all into the full-shave. I can't remember exactly how many women have told me "I did something for you, I shaved down there" without me ever expressing any preference in any direction. I find this offensive, actually. :shrug

We can only do as much as state that we're not fussed either way (I like women au naturel, part-shaved and shaved: it's her choice, she's the one that has to run around with it), whichever she chooses to do, it's only important that she is consistent with either shaving or not shaving. Gods, whoever made this such a huge topic on a preservationist board... :P

hyidi
Saturday, May 5th, 2012, 11:10 AM
Quote- Oftentimes, it has gone so far that women magically assume that we'd be all into the full-shave. I can't remember exactly how many women have told me "I did something for you, I shaved down there" without me ever expressing any preference in any direction. End quote

Maybe because the chicks were asked so many times by thier so many ex boyfriends to shave or wax fully before they had meet you.
this is why they had presume you wanted a complete bold cat ;)

Though, I think your a gentleman, can't imagine you asking a lady to do such a thing.

Svanhild
Tuesday, May 8th, 2012, 01:19 PM
I'm a lesbian but I'm currently not seeing anyone and I don't shave pubic hairs because of other women. Shaving or trimming is just more comfortable and hygienic to me. It's the same with underarms. These hairs can trap sweat and other bodily fluids.
I'm bisexual with a contemporary strong bias for other women myself and shaving or waxing everything isn't in line with the trend of the scene. There's an unambiguous preference for trimmed hair as of late. As a matter of fact, I notice a recent leaning back to more hair for one or two years now. My most recent sexual partners, all of them female, were trimmed or en nature and prefer trimmed hair.

If you had a partner you would know what I'm talking about.

The general mainstream preference for full shaving or waxing on women has their roots in male desires and porn stereotypes. The bi- and lesbian scene is more assorted.


You can feel it if you wear synthetic underwear which is popular these days, or if you wear pads when you have the periods.
Synthetic underwear is poison for the sensitive skin and pads!? There are still women who use pads?

Maybe because the chicks were asked so many times by thier so many ex boyfriends to shave or wax fully before they had meet you.
I can support your claim by my own experiences with former boyfriends.

Olavssønn
Tuesday, May 8th, 2012, 02:17 PM
Actually, Thunselda. Armpit hair should be shaved. It's what gives off the smell when you sweat (the bacteria in sweat clings onto the hairs) and it also produces more sweat. Nobody likes overly sweaty armpits. It feels uncomfortable.

Never experienced that problem... But then I'm not a woman either, though. :D

Bearkinder
Saturday, May 12th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Sorry to actually kind of bring this back on topic but.....


I think that would certainly have to be a cultural difference then. No offense meant (really). But if your a woman and you go without shaving your body hair in America your going to be the least popular person in any social gathering and you'll have a very hard time finding a dude that doesnt look like he came from the movie "Deliverance".

Not all of us. I rather prefer the unshaven woman. It's really a hindrance, because they are hard to find, what with all the neuroses over body hair.


The shaving thing really came into prominence with the widespread distribution of porn. Prior to that, shaving the pubic hair was as, if not more, humiliating to a woman as shaving her head. Just do some reading of period pieces prior to the 60's. They're in things called book, so the folks who believe everything can must be source via link will remain disappointed.

The widespread use of shaved women in porn is meant (as is the almost universal use of anal sex scenes) to degrade the Aryan woman. I'm sure the hooked-nosed beasts are sitting back in glee now that they have the cute little white girls degrading themselves.

Way to go. :thumbup

If you have a "partner" who demands you shave, you have a loser. Move on.

Before I get asked, if you are someone who demands their "partner" (of either sex) shaves, and it's a deal-breaker for you, then yes, I think you're a loser. If not, the above wasn't meant for you.

Wulfram
Saturday, May 12th, 2012, 02:52 PM
The widespread use of shaved women in porn is meant (as is the almost universal use of anal sex scenes) to degrade the Aryan woman. I'm sure the hooked-nosed beasts are sitting back in glee now that they have the cute little white girls degrading themselves.

If you look at the poll you will see we have/had quite a few members who shave down there, and probably a few who do but are not comfortable sharing that information publicly. Are you suggesting they are not smart enough to understand the reason they do this? I see that Bärin is one of them, and I can assure you she is not some ninny who does this blindly because porn is supposed to have made her do it.

You really think that porn is the ONLY reason women shave their pubes? That's ridiculous.

Seriously, please list the books you say exist that prove you're point.

Bearkinder
Saturday, May 12th, 2012, 03:03 PM
Nice strawman, try again.

I said it was the origin of the widespread use of pubic shaving.

I also said the instigators probably love the fact that they get the Aryan girls to do it to themselves nowadays.

Wulfram
Saturday, May 12th, 2012, 03:05 PM
Nice strawman, try again.

I said it was the origin of the widespread use of pubic shaving.

I also said the instigators probably love the fact that they get the Aryan girls to do it to themselves nowadays.

Please list your sources

Juthunge
Saturday, May 12th, 2012, 04:37 PM
Moderator's note: The discussion regarding promiscuity has been moved to The Virtues of [Female] Promiscuity (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=1171664#post1171664)

Aeternitas
Saturday, June 23rd, 2012, 03:15 PM
Yes, all of it.

What to do with body hair is an endlessly debated topic but I don't think there's an universal answer to this question. One can consider health, comfort, tradition, physical appeal, but it really boils down to a matter of personal choice. There is no right and wrong here, there are pros and cons for each choice and ultimately what we do with our body hair is a matter of personal preference just like other aspects of our appearance. So there is no need to make it ideological, e.g. like those feminists running around with uncovered, hairy armpits; that is just exhibitionism.

The human body and our treatment of it has changed overtime and altering it to a certain extent is a matter of adapting to an environment where we no longer need it for either health or evolutionary purposes. Body hair generates heat, excess perspiration and body odor, what is particularly true for armpit hair. Now fresh sweat doesn't smell, however the next sweaty session will create odor and this can cause embarrassing situations. Without the hair the sweat is reduced and bacteria have less of a breeding ground on the skin/shirt. The same is true for pubic hair, it also hosts bacteria and dirt -- this was its initial, evolutionary purpose, when our ancestors ran around naked, as the body needed a "shield" against infections. As we now lead our lives clothed and the area gets relatively little air circulation during the day, the bacteria multiply and combined with poor hygiene can lead to infections. This should not normally come into question, but surprisingly even in the 21st century with unrestricted access to soap and water, quite a few women do have poor hygiene habits; there have been "incognito" studies about public restroom hygiene, and it been found that many people didn't even wash their hands, surprisingly particularly women. Also, removing body hair particularly by shaving helps remove dead skin cells.

It has actually been observed from an evolutionary view that we are far less hairy than our ancestors. Our bodies don't need it as much anymore as we have replaced it with clothes. Also body hair removal is contrary to popular thought, not an exclusively modern or contemporary trend. Sugar waxing was practiced in Ancient Egypt, as well as beeswax, seashells were used to pluck hairs; During the Roman Empire, the absence of body hair was considered a sign of the classes: many women in paintings and statues are depicted hairless. Depilatory creams are as old as the 1800s and women's razor blades as old as the 1900s. They were then advertised as modern. Electric razor ads circulated during the WWII shortage of nylon.

http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/742/b86cf000-a29d-0133-f234-0e8e20b91aa1.jpg

http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8452/7991057313_d90e65587b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/6704310663_be10891818.jpg

Getting rid of body hair can also have professional benefits, not only for models or bodybuilders out of "aesthetic" reasons, but also for competitive swimmers, it has been proven that shaving body hair can increase a swimmer's distance per stroke by 5%. Due to this fact, most competitive swimmers shave their bodies, including male swimmers, many of who also shave their heads. It has also been also noted that the absence of body hair boosts their confidence. Well it may considered metrosexual for a guy to shave it all off, some body hair can denote masculinity but a masculine body can still look manly without hair, provided one has some muscle tone etc. Some men are naturally less hairy than others, e.g. some have little to no chest hair. So just as men can look like men without a beard, they can also look like men with a smooth chest, etc. Whatever floats their boat, I say. :P

Well there has been also endless debate about what is the best method to get rid of the unwanted hair. This can vary according to skin type and tolerance. I go with shaving. I don't wish to torture my body with painful methods and I find it too personal of a matter to go to a beauty salon for waxing, etc. Shaving doesn't take a tremendous amount of time, (5-10 extra minutes), it doesn't leave a mess behind and it's pretty painless provided one has the right blade. Some recommend using a man's razor because if it's fit for his face, it's also fit for our legs, etc., well, there's a specific reason we have women's blades. Single blades are prone to cuts and require more strokes. I found the best razors to be the multiple-bladed kind, with built-in moisturizers for sensitive care and no-slip handles. Wilkinson Sword's or Schick Intuition are my current favorites.

Well, many of the articles debating the eternal shaving issue express frustrations about it being a waste of time, required and imposed by men. e.g. "I had to shave my legs and now my date was canceled, why did I waste all this time". This approach is very superficial, one should make decisions about the body (and generally) because they're comfortable with their choice and not out of peer pressure, stereotypes and assumptions. We live in times where most emphasis is put on the body and judgment is made according to appearance. And this can be quite deceitful.

Leliana
Thursday, April 14th, 2016, 10:50 PM
Uhm, I shave my legs and armpits every third day and just trim the more private parts every 4 weeks to about 0,5 cm. That's the end of the story. ;) Light hairs aren't that visibile anyway.

Mother Earth
Saturday, October 15th, 2016, 04:45 PM
I usually remove at the very least armpit hair and leg hair. To show up with hairy armpits and legs in summer would quickly get you classified as a cavewoman in the times we live. I don't think it matters much to the public unless you are typically hairy and going to the beach or swimming pool. It's not a pretty sight, so for the sake of others sharing the beach and water at least some trimming should be in order. :tired2:

Wulfaz
Thursday, November 10th, 2016, 05:15 PM
The problem run in two way. One of them the fashion what dictates the hairless female, moreover nowadays male :thumbdown body. The second way is the health of the body.

The hair is a protein, especially ceratin. It has very good features as it can breathe very well and it can dry the water and any other liquid from a surface, f.e. the skin, moreover it has a third feature as some material is anti-bacterial like as the silver... and the ceratin, the hair. The bodyhair simply cannot cause smell. The cause of the bodysmell is the injury of the skin flora what is a layer on the natural skin from special bacteriums. Where the skin flora is injured there these bacteriums are disappeared, hence there develope foreign bacteriums what start eat the sweat, this causes the bad smell in sommer. In my experiences the men without armpithair use to be more stinky as the deo disappear from the armpit by newer and newer wave of sweat, the skin flora injure what is caused by the shaving that start to smelling.

All these are true of the genital areas of the males, females. Furthermore by the females the bodyhair is a first "gate" against foreign bacterial infenction, moreover vaginal yeast infection. I remember that ten years ago the television was not full with commercial of medicine for vaginal yeast infenction, just in the last five years this kind of commercials have spread, because more and more female want to be "fashionable" and more and more female get vaginal yeast infection.

Some years ago I have red that the German BASF research for a skin-cream with skinbacteriums what can restore the natural bacterial frontline of the skin, however I do not know that it is into circulation in the drogeries.

The textil industry is get the optimal qualities of the ceratin, the wool as in the last decade will be very fashionable among the hikers and mountaineers the wool baselayer as the wool dryes the skin and evaporates into the air, hence a hiker cannot get cold under the way. The other good thing is that as I have written above the ceratin, the wool is antibacterial, hence the man will be not stinky after half day walking like as with the synthetic baselayer. I use to wear merino wool to the forest, far more better than those synthetic craps.

Ceterum censeo the hair removing of the more of the body is not necessary unhealthy, it is just a fashion, but that is not accidental that in the genital area and the armpit grow a little bit more ceratin than other place and remove it is equal to give the chance to the bacterial and other infections.

Side by side we have hair to heat and in sommer to cold our brain. :)

Wyrd
Saturday, September 23rd, 2017, 01:50 AM
I wax most of my body hair since I'm a swimmer. Can't really go into the poll with hairy underarms or a hairy bikini line. But of course it's up to each woman to do what she prefers. It depends on lifestyle, profession, also on the color and coarseness of the hair. Blond hairs are less of a problem than Mediterranean type of skin.

Gefjon
Saturday, September 23rd, 2017, 09:34 AM
Ceterum censeo the hair removing of the more of the body is not necessary unhealthy, it is just a fashion, but that is not accidental that in the genital area and the armpit grow a little bit more ceratin than other place and remove it is equal to give the chance to the bacterial and other infections.
:oanieyes

Dude, I've shaven my body hair all my life and ain't got even one infection.

Infections happen to folks who don't wash/shower often and wear the same filthy clothes for days. Take at least 1 shower/day, change your underwear and wash your areas where the sun don't shine and it shouldn't happen. Simple as that. ;)

Thusnelda
Friday, November 17th, 2017, 09:47 PM
I canīt believe that this thread is still an active topic....*g* My old replies and used arguments are still right, anyway, why should I do anything when I donīt see much people at all and live in a village in the forests? Trends come and go. You can see it with the eyebrows-hype: In the 90īs shaved fake eyebrows or very thinly-shaved eyebrows were THE trend, and today bushy airbrows are a trend, just think of Cara Devlegine and other "trendsetters".

Yesterday this, today that, tomorrow the next thing. And I? I just donīt care at all.

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Saturday, November 18th, 2017, 06:21 PM
I canīt believe that this thread is still an active topic....*g* My old replies and used arguments are still right, anyway, why should I do anything when I donīt see much people at all and live in a village in the forests? Trends come and go. You can see it with the eyebrows-hype: In the 90īs shaved fake eyebrows or very thinly-shaved eyebrows were THE trend, and today bushy airbrows are a trend, just think of Cara Devlegine and other "trendsetters".

Yesterday this, today that, tomorrow the next thing. And I? I just donīt care at all.

You know you want to get electrolysis for your eyebrows and then tattoo them on instead. LOL

Bärin
Wednesday, November 22nd, 2017, 09:21 PM
It's not about whether other people see you or you see much people, it's about how you feel in your own skin. If hair is what you like, then keep it. To me, hair is disgusting, especially at the underarms. If I don't shave it off and I sweat it stinks, and the hair keeps the sweat and bacteria in, while clean shaven dries quicker. Also, body lotions and creams are better on smooth skin. So to me it's a question of personal hygiene. My body hair is blonde anyway, so it's not visible to strangers. I don't do it for strangers, or even for my husband, but for myself.

Sigurd
Friday, November 24th, 2017, 12:38 PM
It's not about whether other people see you or you see much people, it's about how you feel in your own skin.

That's probably what should have been the bottom line in this and another thread for pages and ages. It does boil down to personal well-being and well-feeling. ;)

Perhaps if we'd all been more careful to not run around calling everyone who shaves a Muslim-fetishist and everyone who doesn't shave a hippie, these types of discussions would have all happened much more amicably. :P

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Thursday, May 24th, 2018, 06:01 AM
How about not shaving, like intactivism and eating pork/shellfish? I have nothing against our Indo-European pagan cousins in the Subcontinent, but I'm not giving up cattle meat, nor will I just eat chicken to avoid offending superstitious morons.