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Skando-naivian-Girl
Tuesday, June 8th, 2004, 01:01 AM
What makes us age? (Natural mechanism)

Is aging inevitable?(Are there ways to stop or even reverse aging)

How is aging delayed(What steps can be taken to slow down aging)

As far as I know antioxidants can "slow" down aging. Eating 50% less in calories increased the life span of rats by 2 fold but that doesn't seem practical in humans. Some Scientist is actually doing this using himself as a human "gineau pig".

Could stem cells be used to increase human life?

Personally I think someday scientists are going to discover a way to drastically slow down aging. Aging seems to be the only thing technology hasn't allowed us as of yet to conqueror. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could live for for thousands of years instead our emphermal 70. Imagine one would be able to observe, evolution, ice ages, rise and fall of empires.

Strengthandhonour
Tuesday, June 8th, 2004, 01:05 AM
I too believe one day technology will be able to stop growing old. As for now through, I think one of the best ways to stop yourself from getting old is laughter. I have noticed how older people who are happy and joke around seem and look younger than serious and stressed people their age.

Stríbog
Tuesday, June 8th, 2004, 07:41 AM
argh I wrote a really long, detailed reply to this thread and the server crashed right as I submitted it. ;( I shall resume my efforts when I am less tired.

RusViking
Wednesday, June 9th, 2004, 03:14 AM
Nanotech - cellular repair, DNA repair - strong possibility. Chemical intervention, i.e. - antioxidents probably somewhat effective. Lengthening telomeres a possibility. Virus vectors....matched organ replacement. Probably a whole catalog of things. Problem is I am too old...will have to freeze myself. :)

NormanBlood
Wednesday, June 9th, 2004, 04:05 AM
I am quite sure since WILL find a way someday if we continue to "progress" the way we are now. But I, for one, am against it. Nature gave us our specific lifespan and we should NEVER mess with the natural that is for sure. Examples of this can be seen all around us. Everyday we live the consequences of our attempts to "fight nature" and everyday we try to find more technology to "fill the holes" we are constantly creating in our natural course. Going against nature and what is natural will only further deepen the hole we are living in. In my eyes it would make more sense to go with what is natural than to further complicate matters (putting the lives of humanity and our people in its entirety at risk) by quickly mending the past mistakes we've made all the while trying to keep the new ones at bay. Instead of just driving the car slowly out of the deep snow we are spinning our wheels at hyperspeed all the while pouring the salt underneath to melt the snow...without realising that it just turns the snow to ice. I do hope people come to their senses quickly.

Northern Paladin
Wednesday, June 9th, 2004, 06:21 AM
The Development of Technology itself manifest Man's innate desire to Control Nature. And how does one control nature except by going Against it?


I am quite sure since WILL find a way someday if we continue to "progress" the way we are now.

In my opinion aging will never be stopped, just slowed down drastically.


But I, for one, am against it. Nature gave us our specific lifespan and we should NEVER mess with the natural that is for sure.

What determines a lifespan, except by the conditions one Lives under. Just a Century Ago the average life span for people living in America was just 50. Nowadays that number has gone up to 75. Is this what you would deem as "Natural"?


Examples of this can be seen all around us. Everyday we live the consequences of our attempts to "fight nature" and everyday we try to find more technology to "fill the holes" we are constantly creating in our natural course. Going against nature and what is natural will only further deepen the hole we are living in. In my eyes it would make more sense to go with what is natural than to further complicate matters (putting the lives of humanity and our people in its entirety at risk) by quickly mending the past mistakes we've made all the while trying to keep the new ones at bay. Instead of just driving the car slowly out of the deep snow we are spinning our wheels at hyperspeed all the while pouring the salt underneath to melt the snow...without realising that it just turns the snow to ice. I do hope people come to their senses quickly.

Imagine what it would be like if we stopped trying to fight nature.

I agree that Technology and man's desire to subdue Nature has had some negative results.

But if you ask me with the "Good comes the Bad with the Bad comes the Good." The questions becomes is technology worth the price we are paying for it. To me the answer would be a Definite yes.

I think before one should deem something as "Negative" one must answer the question why.
Could you explain why you have a Negative feeling about the Extending human life through the use of Technology?

NormanBlood
Thursday, June 10th, 2004, 05:32 AM
The Development of Technology itself manifest Man's innate desire to Control Nature. And how does one control nature except by going Against it?

I don't believe we do have some "natural desire" to control nature. At least not until the christian era. As for that, why should one desire to control nature?


In my opinion aging will never be stopped, just slowed down drastically.


What determines a lifespan, except by the conditions one Lives under. Just a Century Ago the average life span for people living in America was just 50.

In one place you speak of "slowling down aging" and in the other you speak of life expectancy. Which one do you agree with/prefer? Slowing down aging would require some sort of medical etc. treatment I would imagine, as even to die with longer lifespans we still "decay", so to speak, at around the same time in our lives. As for slowing aging, I think this is simply ridiculous. Our desire to do so comes from the fear of death and under achievement in one life time and so we wish to extend it. Little do people realise that by slowing down aging and living muchlonger because of it our very mental state would be altered, quite possibly our creativity for the worse. Not only this but what would be the point in starting a family? Having children? You now suddenly have SO much longer, your concept of age changes etc. What would be the point in having any significant number of children if you were going to live long enough to see two centuries or so through? What makes life so precious in our current state would be changed for the worse.

As for extending lifespan not through slowing down aging. Once you hit 60 or so your body IS actually rotting/decaying. It doesn't matter if this longer life is medically induced (as it often is today) or not, the body and mind are still decaying and in most cases a person past 70 yers is of little use to society. I don't believe in modern medicine personally, I rarely use it myself and I think it only weakens us in the long run. But that is the age in which we live, an age of quick fixes without regard to consequence.


Imagine what it would be like if we stopped trying to fight nature.

As far as I am concerned, much better. In my eyes our bodies and minds are the very reflection of nature, and in order to be in the best state for us we must follow it, not fight it.


But if you ask me with the "Good comes the Bad with the Bad comes the Good." The questions becomes is technology worth the price we are paying for it. To me the answer would be a Definite yes.

And where exactly has that gotten us? Most of our resources are used up, the earth is dying, we've developped weapons that could completely obliterate us all from the face of the earth, we pollute ourselves with toxins, stuff ourselves with foods that should not even fall under that category, we are mixing with other races...all this mostly due to our "fighting nature" and our "new technologies". I ask you...where do you even SEE the benefits? And whatever "benefits" there might be are closely followed by a huge problem which we "remedy" withsomething else that'll drive us further into the ground.



I think before one should deem something as "Negative" one must answer the question why.
Could you explain why you have a Negative feeling about the Extending human life through the use of Technology?

I believe I have already touched upon "why". What would we achieve? There would be no more "urgency" to leave our legacy, we would be one step closer to immortality..thus eliminating the need for an "heir". Also consider...some of the greatest poems, music and literature was written in that "shortness" of time and in that moment of death. I think it would make us less human and less a part of OUR nature.

Johannes de León
Thursday, June 10th, 2004, 05:59 PM
What are the health benefits of humor and laughter?

The sound of roaring laughter is far more contagious than any cough, sniffle, or sneeze. It can be a domino effect of joy and amusement. Humor and laughter has many benefits:



reduces stress
lowers blood pressure
elevates mood
boosts immune system
improves brain functioning
connects you to others
fosters instant relaxation
it's fun!!!
"Doctor I have a ringing in my ears." "Don't answer!" - Henny Youngman

Does laughter boost the immune system?

The immune system is affected positively by laughter. People with a developed sense of humor typically have a stronger immune system. When we laugh cells that produce antibodies increase in number. T cells and natural killer cells, which attack viruses, also increase while foreign and natural cells decrease. There is a rise in the Cytokine Gamma Interferon, a blood chemical that transmits messages to the nervous system and stimulates the immune system. Dr. Stanley Tan, MD at Loma Linda University says, "All neurohormones act like an orchestra each instrument makes a particular note. Laughter makes the entire orchestra more melodious or balanced. In other words, laughter brings a balance to all components of the immune system."

The Doctor says "You'll live to be 60!" "I AM 60!" "See, what did I tell you?" - Henny Youngman

Does laughter lower blood pressure and protect the heart?

People who laugh heartily on a regular basis have lower standing blood pressure than the average person. When people have a good laugh, initially the blood pressure increases but then decreases to levels below normal. Breathing then becomes deeper which sends oxygen enriched blood and nutrients throughout the body. A University of Maryland Medical Center study found that people with heart disease were 40% less likely to laugh in a variety of situations compared to the people of the same age without heart disease. It is not yet determined exactly why laughing protects the heart but there is a correlation between mental stress and the impairment of the endothelium, the protective barrier lining in our blood vessels. This can cause a series of inflammatory reactions that lead to fat and cholesterol buildup in the coronary arteries and ultimately to a heart attack.

"The older you get, the tougher it is to lose weight, because by then your body and your fat are really good friends." - Bob Hope

Does laughter give you a workout?

Laughter can be a great workout for your diaphragm, abdominal, respiratory, facial, leg, and back muscles. It massages abdominal organs, tones intestinal functioning, and strengthens the muscles that hold the abdominal organs in place. Not only does laughter give your midsection a workout, it can benefit digestion and absorption functioning as well. It is estimated that hearty laughter can burn calories equivalent to several minutes on the rowing machine or the exercise bike.

"You know what a red flag is to the IRS? If you have money in your bank accounts after taxes." - Jay Leno

Does laughter improve brain function and relieve stress?

Laughter stimulates both sides of the brain to enhance learning. It eases muscle tension and psychological stress, which keeps the brain alert and allows people to retain more information. Laughing also elevates moods. Striving to see humor in life and attempting to laugh at situations rather than bemoan them will help improve your disposition and the disposition of those around you. Your ability to laugh at yourself and situations will help reduce your stress level and make life more enjoyable. Humor also helps you connect with others. People naturally respond to the smiles and good cheer of those around them.

"Doctor, my leg hurts. What can I do?" The Doctor says "Limp." - Henny Youngman

Tips for adding more humor & laughter in your life



Remind yourself to have fun
Spend time with those who help you see the bright side
Get regular doses of humor such as television sitcoms, movies, plays, or books


[source (http://www.helpguide.org/aging/humor_laughter_health.htm)]

Northern Paladin
Thursday, June 10th, 2004, 06:30 PM
In one place you speak of "slowling down aging" and in the other you speak of life expectancy. Which one do you agree with/prefer?


But I, for one, am against it. Nature gave us our specific lifespan and we should NEVER mess with the natural that is for sure.

What I meant was Life Expectancy has increased due to our use of Modern Technology. So we have interfered with nature on this Level and it isn't neccearly a bad thing that people are dying at 75 instead of 50.

Keep in mind birth defects are also part of Nature. -40 degree temperatures in Canada is also part of nature. But what have people done? In the past they've made Fires now it's central heating and buildings with high effeciancy insulators. All examples of people going against Nature. Europeans aren't even supposed to be in North America.


I believe I have already touched upon "why". What would we achieve? There would be no more "urgency" to leave our legacy, we would be one step closer to immortality..thus eliminating the need for an "heir". Also consider...some of the greatest poems, music and literature was written in that "shortness" of time and in that moment of death. I think it would make us less human and less a part of OUR nature.

Good point. But I'd think if one lives longer one would leave more Heirs. Just because a person's Lifespan may be 150 yrs doesn't mean there's no incentive to have a family. With that life span there will be more time to accumalate resources. And a longer Life would give one an opportunity to see the Achievements of one's Offspring more fully. Wouldn't that be nice? If at the age of death a person is Older there would be that much more to reflect on.




Speaking of Heirs. The Lifespan of any Organism is related to the Age of Sexual maturation the Older that Age the Longer the Lifespan.
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/A/Aging.html
Site where Biologist Answers Questions Concerning Aging.(Pretty Comprehensive)


And where exactly has that gotten us? Most of our resources are used up, the earth is dying, we've developped weapons that could completely obliterate us all from the face of the earth, we pollute ourselves with toxins, stuff ourselves with foods that should not even fall under that category, we are mixing with other races...all this mostly due to our "fighting nature" and our "new technologies". I ask you...where do you even SEE the benefits? And whatever "benefits" there might be are closely followed by a huge problem which we "remedy" withsomething else that'll drive us further into the ground.

Your making it sound like we going to face Aramagedon. If there's one thing humans are good at is finding a way to mend things when faced with their destruction. Nukes are the balancing forces that keep WWIII from breaking out.

If your talking about genetically altered foods. They altered for higher productivity otherwise there would be shortages.

As for racial preservation the only thing that can keep a race preserved in the longrun is Isolation. There is still hope for Canada especially a place like Quebec. I am afraid America has already crossed a line where unless drastic actions are taken there is no hope.



I ask you...where do you even SEE the benefits?
These Toxins are a by product of things like your Car, your School Books, your Shoes...ect.


If there is anything that can be learned from History. It is that humans are Resilient.


http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/A/Aging.html
What is Aging?
Do all Creatures Age?
Aging in Invertebrates
Aging in Vertebrates
Why Do We Age?
1. Programmed in our genes?
2. The Inevitable Consequence of an Active Life?
3. Telomere Shortening?
4. The Accumulation of Genetic Errors?
Clues from Premature Aging Syndromes
Why is a mouse as old at 2 years as a human at 70?
Aging in Plants

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Thursday, June 10th, 2004, 11:45 PM
What about cryogenics?

RusViking
Friday, June 11th, 2004, 01:15 AM
What about cryogenics?
www.alcor.org (http://www.alcor.org)

NormanBlood
Friday, June 11th, 2004, 04:50 AM
What I meant was Life Expectancy has increased due to our use of Modern Technology. So we have interfered with nature on this Level and it isn't neccearly a bad thing that people are dying at 75 instead of 50.

Yes, as a matter of fact I do believe it is a bad thing. Another thing you have to realise with longer life expectancy is the threat of over population. Just look at how perfect nature is. The black plague wiped out a large portion of London's population, modern man whines about how "horrible" the Plague was, but look at it a little closer. London at that time was grossly overpopulated, though people did die of other disease, violence etc. it still remained grossly overpopulated. The plague brought balance back however. A very GOOD thing. Overpopulation brings disease. Of course today we can "cure" these disease with modern medications/antibiotics but then it throws out of wack natures, quite intelligent, design.


Keep in mind birth defects are also part of Nature. -40 degree temperatures in Canada is also part of nature. But what have people done? In the past they've made Fires now it's central heating and buildings with high effeciancy insulators.

Yes, birth defects are a part of nature. Which is why only the strong should be allowed to survive..only the healthy. Not every child born will be healthy, but that is the way of things..and those born unhealthy are not the "strongest" lets just put it that way.

Yes high temperatures are also natural. But does the fact that the Inuits used whale blubber and furs to keep warm HARM nature at all? Does it off set the balance? No...not really.


All examples of people going against Nature. Europeans aren't even supposed to be in North America.

Did the Norse settlements in North America "harm" anything? Where they "messing" with the universe/balance of things? As for the French and British...I do disagree with the method in which they took North America...but war (though I don't consider nuclear warfare to be warfare in its purest form) is alsosomething that comes naturally. Another one of those "unfortunate" things that is utterly and compeltely necessary.


But I'd think if one lives longer one would leave more Heirs. Just because a person's Lifespan may be 150 yrs doesn't mean there's no incentive to have a family.

The ultimate reason for breeding is to carry on a strong bloodline by merging with other strong bloodlines. If we live 150 yrs then we will long for more. Do you really think it will stop there? Eventually..if one lives long enough the need for a strong bloodline to continue on in the ages WON'T be necessary. But lets go on this theory and say we DO reproduce more heirs. Well they will live just as long as us will they not? So people are living twice as long and have twice as many children than they would originally have head. And these children have twice as many children as they would have had etc. etc. Population growth and OOPS no disease because we have "the technology to cure everything and anything". But of course we can always colonise the REST of the Universe and completly off set IT as well...all for the selfish "need" to live a lazy long life without any threat of any sorts. ;)


With that life span there will be more time to accumalate resources.

What we call in my World Issues class.."la corne d'abondance" aka the horn of abundance (I believe it is called in English). The idea that our ressources will never run out. Which is of course a misinterpretation. Our ressources will run out, though I have no doubt by that time we will find other things to "withstand" our need to "progress". Meanwhile the earth will be stripped of everything, we will be living in a wasteland...hmmm..this is starting to remind me of the novel "We" by Yevgeni Zamyatin.


Your making it sound like we going to face Aramagedon. If there's one thing humans are good at is finding a way to mend things when faced with their destruction. Nukes are the balancing forces that keep WWIII from breaking out.

Personally I think we, in actuality, may be very close to it. Yes, humans are good at finding a way to mend things, as I mentioned before. But it is more along the lines of the "quick fix" than the ultimate solution. It is only enough tohold usoff till the next big problem...or until all the problems that have accumulated since the Industrial Revolution come crashing down on us.

As for the nukes. Nukes being the balancing forces that keep WWIII from breaking loose? I highly doubt it. If it hadn't been for the creation of the nuclear bomb we wouldn't need to FEAR a potential WWIII, with an ever nuclear war mongering United States of America, that will wipe us off the face of the earth. Unless the whole "Raegan/Bush shield in the atmosphere above NA" actually occurs :P


If your talking about genetically altered foods. They altered for higher productivity otherwise there would be shortages.

Actually, GM Foods leave us in a very vulnerable situation. Experts are finding that different pests are adapting very quickly to the "built-in" gene within certain GM Foods which make them immune to the "invasion" of thse pests. Scientists keep altering, but the pests keep adapting. They are actually talking about a these pests evolving to "immunity" against all these chemicals WITH our help. If this happens they can EASILY wipe out the crops completely leaving us with no "backup food". I did a presentation on this very subject last semester actually. Unfortuantely I can't find it, it would be very helpful as I forget the exact terms used in the articles I found. Anyways, one of the problems also is that only ONE type of crop can be used on one piece of land instead of mixed crops when it comes to genetically modified foods. Again, this leaves us vulnerable as crops are becoming far easier to wipe out, experts are predicting. As for food shortage...all links back to overpopulaton and over consomption in the Western World.


As for racial preservation the only thing that can keep a race preserved in the longrun is Isolation. There is still hope for Canada especially a place like Quebec.

And isolation is getting to be near impossible in a more technological and globalised world...I hope you catch my drift on this.


These Toxins are a by product of things like your Car, your School Books, your Shoes...ect.

I don't drive actually, and don't intend to. As for everything else...it is nearly impossible to live as I would wish in today's world, but I try to keep eevrything I have at the minimum which is the best one can do given the circumstances.

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Friday, June 11th, 2004, 05:03 AM
I used to be as apprehensive as you, Queen NB, but today I find it difficult to find absolute dogmatic truth as to the eventful outcomes of everything we do. The world is full of grey spots. I'd rather not second guess every move I make to avoid taking any chances.

NormanBlood
Friday, June 11th, 2004, 05:18 AM
I'd rather not second guess every move I make to avoid taking any chances.

It has nothing to do with avoiding any form of risk. Reread my posts..that is not what I am saying at all. It all has to do with my world view. I see nature as being the pinnacle of all and do not think it should be toyed with in this sense. I believe that modernisation is the less healthy route both mentally and physically, logically following this I hope to come as close as I can to a completly natural lifestyle based on natural laws, this I believe is the only way to true enlightenment.

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Friday, June 11th, 2004, 05:32 AM
It has nothing to do with avoiding any form of risk. Reread my posts..that is not what I am saying at all. It all has to do with my world view. I see nature as being the pinnacle of all and do not think it should be toyed with in this sense. I believe that modernisation is the less healthy route both mentally and physically, logically following this I hope to come as close as I can to a completly natural lifestyle based on natural laws, this I believe is the only way to true enlightenment.
What is the difference between how humans survive and advance their race vs other life? We utilise our surroundings like a bird retrieves twigs and leaves to build a nest. Like a chimp, we use tools to dig for food. What is so terrible in advancing our skills, our mastery over these things so that they aren't difficult? What is terrible about using pulleys and levers to build and construct homes? Utility is a great asset to humankind, and without it, we'd be like gorrillas and chimpanzees with no deep evaluation of ourselves. Sentience has been advanced by the discovery of tools and the willpower to make use of our knowledge, or just throw it away as though our minds which produced the ideas are irrelevant.

NormanBlood
Friday, June 11th, 2004, 05:47 AM
We utilise our surroundings like a bird retrieves twigs and leaves to build a nest.

Do you not see the irony of that entire comparison? :P


What is so terrible in advancing our skills, our mastery over these things so that they aren't difficult?

If you really want my answer to that question go reread my posts..its already there and I don't feel like repeating myself in another 10 posts.

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Friday, June 11th, 2004, 05:56 AM
What irony is there to poke at?

I know your answer in that context, but it is good that there have been at least SOME changes technologically. Do you dispute most of all the achievements people have set their minds to? That seems like you don't respect your own.

Northern Paladin
Friday, June 11th, 2004, 09:13 PM
As for the nukes. Nukes being the balancing forces that keep WWIII from breaking loose? I highly doubt it. If it hadn't been for the creation of the nuclear bomb we wouldn't need to FEAR a potential WWIII, with an ever nuclear war mongering United States of America, that will wipe us off the face of the earth. Unless the whole "Raegan/Bush shield in the atmosphere above NA" actually occurs

War is caused when One side thinks it is sufficiently stronger than the other and can gain something from fighting. Nuclear Stalemate Both Sides know they can wipe each other Out so they Opt not to Fight.
Ah US has been pretty cautious with Nukes. Ever heard of the Cuban Missle Crisis, mademoiselle? Don't Slander America. Just because some Presidents have had some Out there Ideas. In the event of a World War America will be the one Shielding Canada.


I don't drive actually, and don't intend to. As for everything else...it is nearly impossible to live as I would wish in today's world, but I try to keep eevrything I have at the minimum which is the best one can do given the circumstances.

How is that possible? Canada must be more backward than I thought. :P

You sound like you'd make the Perfect Amish Farm Girl.


What we call in my World Issues class.."la corne d'abondance" aka the horn of abundance (I believe it is called in English).

What grade are you in any ways? Je sais le français également.

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Friday, June 11th, 2004, 10:20 PM
Lessons are learnt with greater experience in the wide world...

NormanBlood
Saturday, June 12th, 2004, 02:14 AM
War is caused when One side thinks it is sufficiently stronger than the other and can gain something from fighting. Nuclear Stalemate Both Sides know they can wipe each other Out so they Opt not to Fight.
Ah US has been pretty cautious with Nukes. Ever heard of the Cuban Missle Crisis, mademoiselle?

The point of my post was to say that the US has a real knack for pissing people off. What the United States has to understand is that you cannot get away with policing the world for terribly long. North Korea may not be a great threat...excellent technology but they've screwed up. As for the middle east, if they had anything to match the USs weaponry they are either hiding anything it VERY well or...what is already quite evident..they don't have any. Very clever of Bush (or should I say his father and entourage) was in the way in which he started this war. But in case it hasn't been noted, quite a few greater powers a getting quite thoroughly pissed. The US keeps crossing the line farther and farther, and it can go one of two ways, the leftist *rollseyes* Kerry gets elected and things begin to simmer down, or Bush gets re-elected at which point I think anything truly could be possible. He is truly overstepping his bounds in many nation's eyes.


Don't Slander America. Just because some Presidents have had some Out there Ideas. In the event of a World War America will be the one Shielding Canada.

I will slander the US as much as I like, its policies throughly annoy me. As for Canada in wars to come...the next elections will determine that. I also really don't think one should OVERestimate the US's military power and expendability.


How is that possible? Canada must be more backward than I thought.

Funny how americans love to mock Canada when looking in the mirror would provide far more entertainment :P ;)


You sound like you'd make the Perfect Amish Farm Girl.

Actually, the only problem I have with the Mennonites/Amish is their spirituality.


What grade are you in any ways?

Final year of highschool (which is coming to an end very soon) soon to be my first year at one of Canada's best Unis :D I asume you are in the same "position" or are already into the first year. Correct?

Northern Paladin
Saturday, June 12th, 2004, 05:15 PM
Final year of highschool (which is coming to an end very soon) soon to be my first year at one of Canada's best Unis I asume you are in the same "position" or are already into the first year. Correct?

Well congrads on that, you Overachiever :academic . The High School, College Transition is a memorable one. I am actually in my second year. Majoring in International Business. What do you plan to major in?


I will slander the US as much as I like, its policies throughly annoy me. As for Canada in wars to come...the next elections will determine that. I also really don't think one should OVERestimate the US's military power and expendability.

If WWIII is to come Canada would be the perfect place to go. Who would want to waste a Perfectly good Nuke on already Barren Land? :P

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Tuesday, May 29th, 2018, 03:33 AM
NB was something else. Canada exemplifies everything America doesn't want to be. Had the Revolution not happened, we would live like them. We fought for Independence because we preferred the Restoration never happened and because of the snobbish Frogs and their dictatorial society. She wanted to rant and rave at Americans from her side of the border. Good for her.

Wuotans Krieger
Sunday, November 25th, 2018, 05:49 PM
What makes us age? (Natural mechanism)

Is aging inevitable?(Are there ways to stop or even reverse aging)

How is aging delayed(What steps can be taken to slow down aging)

As far as I know antioxidants can "slow" down aging. Eating 50% less in calories increased the life span of rats by 2 fold but that doesn't seem practical in humans. Some Scientist is actually doing this using himself as a human "gineau pig".

Could stem cells be used to increase human life?

Personally I think someday scientists are going to discover a way to drastically slow down aging. Aging seems to be the only thing technology hasn't allowed us as of yet to conqueror. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could live for for thousands of years instead our emphermal 70. Imagine one would be able to observe, evolution, ice ages, rise and fall of empires.

Gradual failure of our cells to accurately duplicate themselves. Imagine photocopying a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy etc. It eventually becomes quite blurred and indistinct. The same thing happens to our cells. By the age of 55 it starts to fail completely and this why 70 is a normal lifespan, 80 if you are in good health. Live beyond this and you risk becoming senile. Nobody except a very young person wants to live for thousands of years. As you get older you will realise why I say that. Solomon had it right when he said that "there is nothing new under the sun." One gradually wearies of life.

Herr Rentz
Sunday, November 25th, 2018, 05:52 PM
What makes us age? (Natural mechanism)

Is aging inevitable?(Are there ways to stop or even reverse aging)

How is aging delayed(What steps can be taken to slow down aging)

As far as I know antioxidants can "slow" down aging. Eating 50% less in calories increased the life span of rats by 2 fold but that doesn't seem practical in humans. Some Scientist is actually doing this using himself as a human "gineau pig".

Could stem cells be used to increase human life?

Personally I think someday scientists are going to discover a way to drastically slow down aging. Aging seems to be the only thing technology hasn't allowed us as of yet to conqueror. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could live for for thousands of years instead our emphermal 70. Imagine one would be able to observe, evolution, ice ages, rise and fall of empires.


Being married to my ex-wife will do it faster than that.

Wuotans Krieger
Sunday, November 25th, 2018, 05:54 PM
Being married to my ex-wife will do it faster than that.

I did not realise that you are divorced-your profile says 'single'.

Herr Rentz
Sunday, November 25th, 2018, 06:00 PM
Because 'Divorced' was not a selection in the option list.

Wuotans Krieger
Sunday, November 25th, 2018, 06:04 PM
Because 'Divorced' was not a selection in the option list.

I think that you can customise it though. I did.