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Alizon Device
Sunday, August 2nd, 2009, 09:09 PM
This is the face of Scottish nationalism in 2009.
Well, according to the odious Scottish National Party (SNP), anyway.

http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/285x214/61030_1.jpg

Jahangir Hanif is a senior Glasgow councillor, representing the SNP.

Here is another photo of him, in his native Pakistan, firing an AK47 and encouraging his young children to do the same.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/08/article-0-0232983100000578-819_468x286.jpg

This party is no Nationalist party. They're a contemptible bunch of multicultural socialists.
(Though the English culture is fair game for 'racist abuse').

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2420946.0.0.php?act=complain t&cid=1819235

Sigurd
Sunday, August 2nd, 2009, 09:22 PM
The SNP is ridiculous, and quite obviously they are not an overall friend of the preservationist cause. However, their campaigning for independence is important, and even should an SNP in power allow for a referendum on independence, it is well possible that they become unimportant after independence and disappear for being one of a bunch of liberal-left parties - I wager that the independence issue is the main cause for people to vote SNP. ;)

triedandtru
Tuesday, August 4th, 2009, 05:31 PM
The SNP is ridiculous, and quite obviously they are not an overall friend of the preservationist cause. However, their campaigning for independence is important, and even should an SNP in power allow for a referendum on independence, it is well possible that they become unimportant after independence and disappear for being one of a bunch of liberal-left parties - I wager that the independence issue is the main cause for people to vote SNP. ;)

Exactly. Ideally, they will serve their purpose in campaigning for indepedence and, thereafter, they would become unimportant and unsupported.

Alizon Device
Tuesday, August 4th, 2009, 06:17 PM
I think you both underestimate the political savvy and heavyweight nature of the SNP.

Alex Salmond has done a remarkable con trick with his spin and disingenuous stance on 'Scottish nationalism'.
These people aren't simply Left wing of Old Labour; they include once radical, extreme people (in their younger days).
Some would say that a leopard doesn't change its spots.

This is, of course, not true. Look at that spineless, mute Chancellor Darling. He was a committed Marxist, in his student days.
Now look at him. The grovelling, suited, upper middle class traitor, making life hell for millions of hard-pressed working class citizens.

But the members of the SNP are made of more loyal stuff than the straw man in 11 Downing Street.
They are the ruling party in Scotland. If they achieve a successful referendum vote and gain independence, they will rule, once again, for at least one more term.

Then they can show their true colours.


Immigrants who choose to live and work in Scotland could earn UK citizenship more readily, says the Scottish Secretary Jim Murphy. Mr Murphy said "The new Scotland should be a melting pot"

These aren't BNP activists talking tough in a post-rally pub.
These are the people already in charge of Scotland!

RoyBatty
Tuesday, August 4th, 2009, 06:58 PM
This is, of course, not true. Look at that spineless, mute Chancellor Darling. He was a committed Marxist, in his student days.
Now look at him. The grovelling, suited, upper middle class traitor, making life hell for millions of hard-pressed working class citizens.


That pretty much describes the average Labour apparatchik. They have "Animal Farm" written all over their faux "anti-fascist" foreheads.

Alizon Device
Tuesday, August 4th, 2009, 10:25 PM
That pretty much describes the average Labour apparatchik. They have "Animal Farm" written all over their faux "anti-fascist" foreheads.
Quite. ;)

And as for the Pakistani Scottish nationalist I mentioned in the first post... well, according to the Daily Mail link, he is a millionaire, who has been under investigation over allegations that he is a 'slum landlord', renting out a shit-hole of a house to Romanian immigrants in Scotland.

Politicians truly are treasonous, greedy, self-centred, egotistical, hypocritical scum.

Astrid Runa
Monday, September 14th, 2009, 03:19 PM
Okay, if this is yet another attack against Scotland, I highly advise that you stop where you are before you seriously insult me.
Next year, I'm voting for the SNP. Why? Because they are for independance and they are against Nuclear Weapons and Nuclear energy.
Also, I'd rather have the SNP leading our country than the BNP.

Sigurd
Monday, September 14th, 2009, 04:32 PM
These aren't BNP activists talking tough in a post-rally pub.
These are the people already in charge of Scotland!

Sure they are already in charge - but are they any worse than Labour? Not really. Let's remember, none of the four parties featured prominently in Scotland are going to go "our way" any time soon, so the question that remains to be asked is: "Which can serve most likely as a springboard?"

Let's see - Scotland has a history of being more Socialist as well as more socially Liberal: It has a large working class, and a working morale only second to Germany. As such, it has traditionally been a bit of a good ground for Socialist-inclined parties.

Many Labour ideologues were born in Scotland, this started with Keir Hardie and is still no different with power changing over from Edinburgh-born Tony Blair to Glasgow-born Gordon Brown.



Next year, I'm voting for the SNP. Why? Because they are for independance and they are against Nuclear Weapons and Nuclear energy.

Like I said, people are likely to vote for the SNP because of the independence issue - they may likely, after independence has taken place, just be another liberal-left party without much electoral support. Five years or so in power after independence, and that'd probably be it.


Also, I'd rather have the SNP leading our country than the BNP.

Obviously, the BNP wouldn't be an end in itself either, at best a means to an end. I doubt even most BNP partisans can see Nick Griffin as the leader for the future, LOL! :P