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Wednesday, May 26th, 2004, 12:24 AM
Linguistics. Early date for the birth of Indo-European languages.

Friday, May 28th, 2004, 03:02 AM
Glottochronology is junk science.
The mathematical methods are invalid.
The language tree is complete rubbish.

The original Anatolian languages, proto-Hattic and Hurritic, show no sign of
IE influence except from the Hethito-Luvic group which wasnīt native in
Anatolia. Both, as well as languages in the surrounding areas (Kassitic,
Hamito-Semitic, Sumeric, Gutaeic, the three language families in the
Caucasus), arenīt related to IE.

One example in respect to the language tree:
The Germanic languages are closest to the Balto-Slavic group, the things in
common with Celtic are secondary owed to close connections during the
LaTene age.

Saturday, June 19th, 2004, 12:45 PM
I read this in "The Races of Europe":

In the preceding chapter it has been shown that the Indo-European languages were probably formed somewhere on the plain of southern Russia or western Turkestan, by a blending of languages spoken by peoples in a Neolithic or early Copper Age stage of culture. One of the two linguistic elements in this blend has been positively identified with Finno-Ugrian, which at the same time forms one of the two lateral divisions of the Ural Altaic stock, the fundamental unity of which is under question.1 The blending of Finno-Ugrian with the B element which produced Indo-European languages took place at some time no earlier than the last few centuries of the fourth millennium B.C., well after the acquisition of agriculture and animal husbandry by western Asiatic peoples, and before the adoption of a complete Bronze Age technology by the inhabitants of the plains north of the Caucasus and the Iranian plateau. The Finnish speakers, who contributed so largely to Indo-European speech at that time, must have been residents of the plains at the time of their meeting with the bringers of Caucasic speech with which their own language was united. At the same time, they must inevitably have contributed to the formation of the racial blend with which the resulting Indo-European language, were early identified.

How could "Finno-Ugrian combine with a B element to produce Indo-European" if Finno-Ugrian is unrelated to Indo-European?