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Nachtengel
Thursday, April 9th, 2009, 03:36 PM
I noticed that on almost every nationalist forum, Germanic, European or whatever, there are few Nordic/Scandinavian people. Why is that? An inability to speak English or lack of interest in kinship with other Germanic/European people? As I noticed from the small map on the index, there are many visits from Sweden on Skadi, but very few people register. I'm intrigued. :confused

Bärin
Thursday, April 9th, 2009, 03:56 PM
The Nordic countries are some of the most liberal and xenophilic countries in Europe. Just look at the shitholes some cities in Sweden have become and some population embracing it in the name of diversity. :thumbdown

Blood_Axis
Thursday, April 9th, 2009, 04:02 PM
An inability to speak EnglishScandinavians (especially Swedes) are famous for their facility in learning English, probably because their languages are very closely related to English.

They're considered to be the most fluent, non-native English, English speakers. I can testify that almost every Stockholmer I've met speaks fluent English, and with a perfect accent :)


or lack of interest in kinship with other Germanic/European people? This is probably the reason, I am afraid. Too much brainwashing and anti-nationalist propaganda :|

Andrew man
Thursday, April 9th, 2009, 07:49 PM
That's what TOO much Democracy does sometimes. ;)

rainman
Thursday, April 9th, 2009, 10:42 PM
I thought there was a good number of Swedes on here. I'm not sure but isn't Sweden a pretty small country? I mean population wise...

Hersir
Thursday, April 9th, 2009, 11:55 PM
There is not a problem with speaking English, here in Norway we learn English from third grade:)

Liemannen
Friday, April 10th, 2009, 03:16 AM
Don't know about the other Nordic peoples but Swedes in general simply doesn't like to debate.
We enjoy a peaceful conversation among friends but we're not one bit interested in trying to convince a person who is of a different opinion than our own to change his beliefs. This is also the reason why you never hear a political discussion at a Swedish dinner table. If there happens to be people of diametrically different political opinions present at a dinner or some other gathering we simply talk about something else.
I think this is quite obvious if you look at Swedish Internet forums or comment fields for Internet based newspapers. The wast majority of all the posts are written by a rather small number of posters. Same goes for the discussion pages at Swedish Wikipedia.


I also think that the notion of all Germanic tribes belonging to one people and having something in common is quite new and maybe a bit strange to most Swedes that visit Skadi for the first time.


Another thing is that even if most Swedes speak a decent English I believe that most of us find it much more difficult to write in English than to speak it.


And finally I have to admit that most Swedes are a bit self-contempt. They're not necessarily all that interested in the opinions of you foreigners out there.

TheGreatest
Friday, April 10th, 2009, 03:21 PM
Probably because Sweden isn't as bad as the United States, Canada, England or Germany? Let's send a few million blacks to Stockholm and all the major cities and towns, and you'll get your posters. :D

Nachtengel
Friday, April 10th, 2009, 03:24 PM
Probably because Sweden isn't as bad as the United States, Canada, England or Germany? Let's send a few million blacks to Stockholm and all the major cities and towns, and you'll get your posters. :D
Are you serious? Have you ever seen those videos from places like Malmö?

Hauke Haien
Friday, April 10th, 2009, 03:57 PM
I thought there was a good number of Swedes on here. I'm not sure but isn't Sweden a pretty small country? I mean population wise...

Sweden: 9.2 million (83.3% Swedish)
Denmark: 5.5 million (91.1% Danish)
Norway: 4.8 million (90.3% Norwegian)
Iceland: 320,000 (86.5% - 93.2% Icelandic)
Faroes: 48,000 (91.7% Faroese , 5.8% Danish)

Svartljos
Saturday, April 11th, 2009, 05:09 AM
Well if you look at this thread (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=113992) the numbers for the Scandinavian countries exceed Canada if you add them up, despite being populated by far fewer people. Therefore, per capita that means more Scandianvian visitors than Canadians at least. That's not surprising to me though.

Vandal Lord
Saturday, April 11th, 2009, 07:07 AM
I would also like to see more Scandinavians participate here at Skadi. It is usual that a fairly large number of Swedes visit but don't really post as much.The Danes don't seem to post often either. I see a little activity from Norwegians. Off coarse its even more rare to see activity from Iceland or the Faroes Islands. The smaller population of these Germanic Nations does play a factor as others have already pointed out. I also think Liemannen explained some important cultural tendencies that Swedes and perhaps other Scandinavians may have when approaching political and controversial topics.

In my own experience of going to family reunions or social gatherings over the years my Danish and Swedish descended relatives or friends tended to be more quieter than my Anglo or German descended relatives or friends. While my Anglo and German relatives/friends would talk and prattle on with each other, my Danish and Swedish relative/friends would instead listen closely and take in the whole conversation before giving their opinions or perspective. When they did say something the Angles and Germans would go quiet suddenly and listen closely because what the Scandinavians had to say was usually thought provoking or original. For them it wasn't the quantity of words spoken but the quality of words spoken. I think Scandinavians tend to be quieter than other Germanics but are deep thinkers and don't usually mince words. :)

Hanna
Saturday, April 11th, 2009, 07:43 AM
In my own experience of going to family reunions or social gatherings over the years my Danish and Swedish descended relatives or friends tended to be more quieter than my Anglo or German descended relatives or friends.


Its very true what you're saying, I know someone, a non scandinavian, while this person was explaining career choice to me, I would just listening without making any sort of cheering up. I said oh that good, but this person perceived me as someone not being supportive enough with the career choice, because I did not show on the action. This is typical Scandinavian we just listen




While my Anglo and German relatives/friends would talk and prattle on with each other, my Danish and Swedish relative/friends would instead listen closely and take in the whole conversation before giving their opinions or perspective. When they did say something the Angles and Germans would go quiet suddenly and listen closely because what the Scandinavians had to say was usually thought provoking or original. For them it wasn't the quantity of words spoken but the quality of words spoken. I think Scandinavians tend to be quieter than other Germanics but are deep thinkers and don't usually mince words. :)

People sometimes have very much difficulties to understand our thoughts because they're not exposed to our norms.

Eoppoyz
Saturday, April 11th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Swedes are afraid to do something wrong - especially in English.

Forseti
Saturday, April 11th, 2009, 07:28 PM
Sweden: 9.2 million (83.3% Swedish) I recall that about 25 years ago, it was always published that Sweden's total population amounts to about 7,000,000. About 10 to 15 years ago, the figure was changed to 8,000,000. This is the first time I hear about a 9,000,000 figure, but if the Swedish population dropped to 83.3% from originally probably 97 or 98% at the same time, one can only imagine who accounts for the difference.


Are you serious? Have you ever seen those videos from places like Malmö?Some time ago, I watched a video on YouTube about a public school in Malmo. Only 2 Swedish schoolkids remained amongst hundreds or even thousands of pupils. The principal didn't sound to be too concerned and babbled some PC BS, but MICU's complained that they cannot drive into immigrant quarters without police protection anymore.

Welcome everybody to the wild Wild North... :thumbdown


While my Anglo and German relatives/friends would talk and prattle on with each other, my Danish and Swedish relative/friends would instead listen closely and take in the whole conversation before giving their opinions or perspective. When they did say something the Angles and Germans would go quiet suddenly and listen closely because what the Scandinavians had to say was usually thought provoking or original. For them it wasn't the quantity of words spoken but the quality of words spoken. I think Scandinavians tend to be quieter than other Germanics but are deep thinkers and don't usually mince words. :) Scandinavians are considered rather reserved and rational here. The total opposite to troublemakers. In the Midwest there is a direct correlation between the number of people of Scandinavian (and German) ancestry in a community and the property prices.


Don't know about the other Nordic peoples but Swedes in general simply doesn't like to debate.
We enjoy a peaceful conversation among friends but we're not one bit interested in trying to convince a person who is of a different opinion than our own to change his beliefs. This is also the reason why you never hear a political discussion at a Swedish dinner table. If there happens to be people of diametrically different political opinions present at a dinner or some other gathering we simply talk about something else. A very sensible strategy to increase the social cohesion and inner peace in an ethnically homogeneous community, but when organized land-grabbing on a mass scale is taking place by immigration of non-assimilable immigrants, the Furor Teutonicus were beyond a doubt the better survival strategy. Despite these developments, the majority of Swedes appears to be very liberal still. It has always amazed me that Europeans seem to be particularly keen on importing or copying the negative aspects of Americanism (multi-culturalism, globalization, affirmative action, non-racialism, etc.), while they are utterly opposed to its positive aspects (independence from the government, the right to bear arms, free speech, conservative family values, death penalty, etc.)

Hauke Haien
Saturday, April 11th, 2009, 08:18 PM
This is the first time I hear about a 9,000,000 figure, but if the Swedish population dropped to 83.3% from originally probably 97 or 98% at the same time, one can only imagine who accounts for the difference.
I remember reading a (translated) Swedish article about that, but I am unable to find it right now. The article indeed ascribed this to immigration and celebrated it as a clever scheme to increase the population and therefore the power of the Kingdom of Sweden, a thinly veiled appeal to territorialist/dynastic "nationalism". Unfortunately, Sweden was never split into 300 principalities, so this mind trick might still work with some people.

Either way, it remains a mystery why no one bothers to increase the population by native means, which would have clear advantages for the Swedish people.

Of course, this mystery is easily solved if one examines the ideological foundations of our present world order and compares them to the spirit that dominated pre-war political structures throughout Europe.

3juX8ASLns0

Renwein
Saturday, April 11th, 2009, 10:31 PM
I don't think there are that few scandinavians. I think people are making up reasons in their heads to explain this supposed lack :P put together there are about roughly 1/4 scandinavians for every brit, or german, or french, spaniard etc... (hey, there are less norwegians then there were chosen ones lost in the 'shoa' :( ;) )

So I think the numbers are about proportionately right, maybe even slightly higher then should be expected...

coupla things trends I *do* find wierd: millions of Finns are EVERYWHERE on the web, maybe they are hogging the bandwidth over there? :D

also, for a 'small' country (...albiet with millions more people then any scandinavian country) Dutch people are also omnipresent on the web...

...however having been 'online' since 2001 (?) it's only in the last year or so I've started seeing multiples of French people anywhere. I guess they finally gave up and learned English :frog ;)

Forseti
Sunday, April 12th, 2009, 12:42 AM
I remember reading a (translated) Swedish article about that, but I am unable to find it right now. The article indeed ascribed this to immigration and celebrated it as a clever scheme to increase the population and therefore the power of the Kingdom of Sweden, a thinly veiled appeal to territorialist/dynastic "nationalism". Unfortunately, Sweden was never split into 300 principalities, so this mind trick might still work with some people.

Either way, it remains a mystery why no one bothers to increase the population by native means, which would have clear advantages for the Swedish people. Still, Sweden is in general a more family- and child-friendly society than Germany, I believe. I saw a table recently where it clearly ranked above Germany. The most child- and family-friendly country in the world was allegedly France. I do not know on which concrete criteria this table was based but probably on a mixture of child benefits, family allowances, social aid for poor families, pre- and post-natal health care, the density of playgrounds, kindergartens and day care centers, their affordability, the time of paid and unpaid maternity leave, and similar factors. That's probably an important reason why the birthrates in Sweden or France are still significantly higher than in Germany. Unfortunately, all the non-assimilable immigrants benefit from it, too.

And if they talk about 83.3% Swedes I wonder who is counted as Swedish? Is every immigrant who was naturalized automatically a Swede independent from his ethnicity? Are the children of interracial couples (with a Swedish mother or father) counted as Swedes? Have illegal immigrants been considered? Usually, the percentage of European natives is in reality always significantly lower than indicated in such statistics.

In the U.S., Jews, Arabs, Turks, Persians, Iranis, etc. are all counted as "white." Never mind that they have their roots in Asia. In addition, there is this shady division between "Hispanic" and "non-Hispanic" whites.

Very interesting recording. Thanks for sharing it.

Hauke Haien
Sunday, April 12th, 2009, 02:13 AM
Still, Sweden is in general a more family- and child-friendly society than Germany, I believe.
Germany is less accommodating when it comes to mothers who want to pursue a career while raising children. At the same time, it is considered embarrassing for a woman to lack personal economic success and to rely on her husband. This is also rooted in notions of personal autonomy that affected our society through the 68er student movement. It is popular to blame them for it, but my view is that they were abject failures and the surviving system cherry picked the parts of their ideology that it deemed useful, which were usually the most harmful. Either way, many women opted not to have children as a result and it is now considered slightly nationalsocialist to worry too much about our biological continuity.


That's probably an important reason why the birthrates in Sweden or France are still significantly higher than in Germany.
Fertility rate (2000-2005) births/woman (http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/wpp2006/WPP2006_Highlights_rev.pdf)

France: 1.88 births/woman
Sweden: 1.67 births/woman
Germany: 1.35 births/woman

The US had 2.04, sub-replacement fertility. Although I remember the figure for European Americans to be 1.78, I am unable to find the source right now.


Unfortunately, all the non-assimilable immigrants benefit from it, too.
I believe this to be the main cause for France's good performance, since it may have as much as 10% Muslims, but the statistics are blind for everything except country of origin. The République française is the prototypical territorial state with a citizenship based on jus soli, usually contrasted with the folkish Germany that historically (until 2000) based its citizenship on jus sanguinis alone.


And if they talk about 83.3% Swedes I wonder who is counted as Swedish?
It is estimated from those who were not part of the 16.7% or 1.53 million who had at least one parent born abroad or were themselves born abroad. I agree that this should be a good approximation. Some of these foreigners might also be (North) Germanic or otherwise "white", although this has obviously a different relevance in a Swedish context.

http://www.scb.se/statistik/BE/BE0101/2006A01/Be0101KomJmfBef_2006.xls

Anfang
Sunday, April 12th, 2009, 02:37 AM
France: 1.88 births/woman
Sweden: 1.67 births/woman
Germany: 1.35 births/woman

The US had 2.04, sub-replacement fertility. Although I remember the figure for European Americans to be 1.78, I am unable to find the source right now.

In usa Muslims, hispanics and orthodox jews breed at a much higher rate than Whites.
Orthodox Jews often average 6 and 8 children per family, and within theic community to have only one or two is considered very unfortunate.





I believe this to be the main cause for France's good performance, since it may have as much as 10% Muslims, but the statistics are blind for everything except country of origin. The République française is the prototypical territorial state with a citizenship based on jus soli, usually contrasted with the folkish Germany that historically (until 2000) based its citizenship on jus sanguinis alone.

can't this be changed *back*?


It is estimated from those who were not part of the 16.7% or 1.53 million who had at least one parent born abroad or were themselves born abroad. I agree that this should be a good approximation. Some of these foreigners might also be (North) Germanic or otherwise "white", although this has obviously a different relevance in a Swedish context.

One of my friends in Saxony is the son of a Swede and a Saxon, and another is Westphalian and Jute, living in Arhus. , but the stampede of
invading foreigners vastly outnumber these organic developments.

Forseti
Sunday, April 12th, 2009, 03:48 AM
Germany is less accomodating when it comes to mothers who want to pursue a career while raising children. At the same time, it is considered embarrassing for a woman to lack personal economic success and to rely on her husband. This is also rooted in notions of personal autonomy that affected our society through the 68er student movement. It is popular to blame them for it, but my view is that they were abject failures and the surviving system cherry picked the parts of their ideology that it deemed useful, which were usually the most harmful. Either way, many women opted not to have children as a result and it is now considered slightly nationalsocialist to worry too much about our biological continuity. Yes. I read it's not uncommon in Sweden that mothers can even bring their small children to work. Larger corporations sometimes even offer their own day care centers. According to the article, Swedes do in general not consider this a nuisance and, wherever it is possible, show understanding if a mother brings her small child with her to work. Supposedly, in Germany this is socially not accepted or desired. Apparently, Swedish companies are also more flexible and offer a larger number of part-time employment opportunities. In addition, the density of playgrounds is much higher in Sweden. Figuratively spoken, there is one next to every other apartment block. And lastly, the article stated that the fathers in Sweden participate more in the child care and raising, while in Germany still a more traditional perspective prevails. Maybe it's a bit generalized, but there might be some truth to it.


I believe this to be the main cause for France's good performance, since it may have as much as 10% Muslims, but the statistics are blind for everything except country of origin. The République française is the prototypical territorial state with a citizenship based on jus soli, usually contrasted with the folkish Germany that historically (until 2000) based its citizenship on jus sanguinis alone.I never heard that Germany rescinded or softened its jus sanguinis. What changed in 2000? Contrariwise, I believe to recall that news reports stated some years ago that the French conservatives had dumped France's traditional jus soli?

The 14th Amendment is one of America's greatest misfortunes, too:

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

To understand the amendment in its historical context, the 14th was passed after the Civil War to guarantee the rights of the former black slaves and their offspring. It was not enacted to support the Hispanic pregnancy tourism of today. We should have done away with it a long time ago.


It is estimated from those who were not part of the 16.7% or 1.53 million who had at least one parent born abroad or were themselves born abroad. I agree that this should be a good approximation. I agree. Questionable remains whether realistic figures of the number of illegal immigrants were estimated and included.

Sissi
Sunday, April 12th, 2009, 10:27 PM
I see Scandinavians here at Skadi more than on other Germanic or European forums, where the Scandinavian sections aren't active. But on Skadi the American and German posters seem to have always been more numerous than other nationalities. So that leaves the impression there isn't much Scandinavian impact. But in threads like Scandinavism/Nordism (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=110565), which concern their specific matters, we can see Scandinavian presence from all Scandinavian countries. It would be great if there were more, but demographically Americans and Germans will always be more, so we'll see more regular members from these countries. However, I'm glad to see on Skadi there is some representation for nearly all Germanic nationalities and ethnic groups, even the Faroese, the Transylvanian Saxons, Danube Swabians, Sudeten Germans and South Flemish.

Vandal Lord
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 05:43 AM
Scandinavians are considered rather reserved and rational here. The total opposite to troublemakers. In the Midwest there is a direct correlation between the number of people of Scandinavian (and German) ancestry in a community and the property prices.

I have heard similar "politically incorrect" studies about the higher value of Midwestern property in correlation to the number of certain "nationalities" living in a community. My user name is Vandal Lord not Vanland. :P


I see Scandinavians here at Skadi more than on other Germanic or European forums, where the Scandinavian sections aren't active. But on Skadi the American and German posters seem to have always been more numerous than other nationalities. So that leaves the impression there isn't much Scandinavian impact. But in threads like Scandinavism/Nordism, which concern their specific matters, we can see Scandinavian presence from all Scandinavian countries. It would be great if there were more, but demographically Americans and Germans will always be more, so we'll see more regular members from these countries. However, I'm glad to see on Skadi there is some representation for nearly all Germanic nationalities and ethnic groups, even the Faroese, the Transylvanian Saxons, Danube Swabians, Sudeten Germans and South Flemish.

You make some good points about Scandinavian participation here at Skadi in comparison to other message boards. It's also true about the large number of American, German and English posters as well. I made a similar observation of this in another thread and how we can try to get more Germanics in from other countries on this board.

Sigurd
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 05:58 AM
I have observed that many Scandinavians tend to see themselves as a secluded unity, distinct from all others. Therefore, immediate identification and kinship might not be with other Germanics, even though after some silent thinking they realise that they do have a little in common and understand again why their beer-talk in Bavaria was much more fun than the one in Spain. ;)



coupla things trends I *do* find wierd: millions of Finns are EVERYWHERE on the web, maybe they are hogging the bandwidth over there? :D

Would you know of anything else to do in Finland, apart from perhaps meeting round a lakeside in a forest and drinking unhealthy loads of alcoholic beverage? :D

Huginn ok Muninn
Friday, April 24th, 2009, 03:00 AM
A very sensible strategy to increase the social cohesion and inner peace in an ethnically homogeneous community, but when organized land-grabbing on a mass scale is taking place by immigration of non-assimilable immigrants, the Furor Teutonicus were beyond a doubt the better survival strategy. Despite these developments, the majority of Swedes appears to be very liberal still. It has always amazed me that Europeans seem to be particularly keen on importing or copying the negative aspects of Americanism (multi-culturalism, globalization, affirmative action, non-racialism, etc.), while they are utterly opposed to its positive aspects (independence from the government, the right to bear arms, free speech, conservative family values, death penalty, etc.)

To be White and a social liberal is suicidal and traitorous.. ESPECIALLY in a European Germanic homeland. :thumbdown

SwordOfTheVistula
Friday, April 24th, 2009, 01:24 PM
Swedes in particular know English very well, there were tons of them on the NWN (computer game) server I used to play on, they attributed this to watching TV & movies, I guess with a smaller population there is less domestic language material as opposed to the number of people who speak French or German as a native language.


The 14th Amendment is one of America's greatest misfortunes, too:

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

To understand the amendment in its historical context, the 14th was passed after the Civil War to guarantee the rights of the former black slaves and their offspring. It was not enacted to support the Hispanic pregnancy tourism of today. We should have done away with it a long time ago.

There is a strong argument that illegal aliens are not 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the United States, and therefore their children should not be granted citizenship. Native Indians were not granted citizenship until the 1920s, although the 14th Amendment was enacted in the 1860s, so I think we can assume that not everyone born on US soil is automatically a 'citizen' by virtue of the 14th Amendment.

Freja_se
Friday, April 24th, 2009, 05:15 PM
Scandinavians (especially Swedes) are famous for their facility in learning English, probably because their languages are very closely related to English.

They're considered to be the most fluent, non-native English, English speakers. I can testify that almost every Stockholmer I've met speaks fluent English, and with a perfect accent :)

This is probably the reason, I am afraid. Too much brainwashing and anti-nationalist propaganda :|

I am Swedish. I was VERY close to not visiting here again since I felt some negativity and prejudice here towards Scandinavians. There is no point now in getting into detail but it was a turn-off.

Since probably many other Scandinavians read these threads before joining they may be discouraged, unfortunately.

Also, there are sites specifically for Scandinavians on the net, so just because they are not here it is not right to question their involvement, or say that they are brainwashed.

We are not any more brainwashed than any of you, who also "let in" hordes of immigrants by the minute. No need for this constant Scandinavia bashing. And then you wonder why we don't join!

snublefot
Friday, April 24th, 2009, 06:48 PM
Unfortunately we in the Scandinavian countries have been overexposed to social democratic internationalism propaganda and to a large extent lost our Germanic identity and pride in our heritage. We have gotten the Marxist message hammered into us since grade school with a very negative effect.

All we can hope for now is that foreign immigration becomes unbearable and turn our big cities into war zones. Then people will start to awake.

It has to get a lot worse before it can get better...

Rassenhygieniker
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 12:02 PM
Swedes are afraid to do something wrong - especially in English.

Yes this is very true, but not just the Swedes as this type of behavioral disposition can also be observed in Norwegians and Danes due to their inclination toward a clement nature.

Such inclination can be seen on a higher scale when contrasted between the behaviour of nonwhites present in Denmark and the Danes themselves:
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The inclination toward riots and savagery is a typical behavior present among nonwhites and mediterraneans, who are more prone toward aggresivity than passivity, unlike Scandinavians.

Scandinavians at the same time have an acute sensibility and do get more shocked when being witnesses to the violent behaviour of nonwhites and the unsophisticatedly rustic behaviour of Meds, either online or in real life.

wVhi_HHXavE

Gustavus Magnus
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 12:50 PM
Are you serious? Have you ever seen those videos from places like Malmö?

Are you serious? Have you ever been to Malmö?

The image they try to give you in those Youtube clips is more like a war torn Stalingrad during WW2 and not very accurate of how Malmö actually looks.

Rassenhygieniker
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 01:45 PM
Are you serious? Have you ever been to Malmö?

The image they try to give you in those Youtube clips is more like a war torn Stalingrad during WW2 and not very accurate of how Malmö actually looks.


DKAM2iNO0_E

Edit: Thank you Hrodnand.

Oxygen
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 03:25 PM
I don’t think the language barrier is the problem, as someone previously stated Norwegian and Swedish people are known to have good English skills, where as the Finns are notoriously awful at speaking English.

I do believe the indoctrination of the Swedish people are way worse than its Nordic neighbors, you can see that in the amount of immigrants to Swedes in the populous, the amount of trouble which is much worse than in the rest of the Nordic countries and yet it’s the only Nordic county that do not even have a political party in the government that even mildly question the immigrant invasion.

Also I think the youtube clips are one depiction of reality, in certain parts of Malmö, Stockholm, Gothenburg, södertälje, and so on you wont see any white people, and believe me when I say it is dangerous for anyone to be there, but especially whites and especially girls since there have been many rapes of 12-16 year old white girls these days .

I don’t know why Gustav Magnus thinks its an inaccurate depiction of Malmö? Maybe because he comes from Värmland in the mid-west and even if they have problems with immigrants to the situation is waay different from Malmö, I mean of course there are certain upscale areas and even a gated community now that aren’t that bad but Rosengård is no joke, even if it cant be compared to Wats, hells kitchen or south central.

SwordOfTheVistula
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 04:10 PM
even if it cant be compared to Wats, hells kitchen or south central.

Hell's Kitchen was always an Irish area, and in the past decade or two has become more of a middle/upper class area. The 'bad' area of NYC is the Bronx, also some parts of Brooklyn and Queens.

Gustavus Magnus
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 08:51 PM
DKAM2iNO0_E

Edit: Thank you Hrodnand.

Yeah but, come on, I've actually been to Malmö. I know there's plenty of aliens there, and it's not an ideal place to live, but it's not fucking Timor-Leste.

Rassenhygieniker
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 10:36 PM
I know there's plenty of aliens there, and it's not an ideal place to live, but it's not fucking Timor-Leste.

I never said it was friend, but from the videos/photos I have seen and the articles I have read, it does not look, sound nor seem like it is a walk in the park either.

I would say Malmö is probably on par with the infestation present in the major cities of France and the UK.

Sigurd
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 10:58 PM
We are not any more brainwashed than any of you, who also "let in" hordes of immigrants by the minute.

I'll leave that standing, because I'm not too sure. Actually from a lot of the Swedes that I have met, it is sad and painful to see how such a traditionally proud and wonderful nation can get so close to the brink of chaos without more taking a stand. It is good to see that increasingly more do so. :thumbup

However, brainwashed or not: I doubt that's a deciding factor. If Swedes, Norwegians and especially Danes are a "rare oddity" on forums like these, then residents/natives of Austria are even less; and considering our electoral results and the high percentage of EU-critical attitudes, we're perhaps one of the least, if not THE least brainwashed Germanic country (except for the front of the "German question", but that's a different matter altogether, different type of brainwashing).

If we do become active, we become very active and noticeable at some point: Look at the likes of Agrippa, Blutwölfin or myself. Or for newer registrations, Sissi (it is hard to believe she has less than 200 posts because she always has something relevant to say :); in the past also newenstad.

The same by the way goes for Switzerland. It is unexplainable why we do not have more Swiss on here. And that's again with them being a lot less brainwashed than I have experienced with many Dutch people: And the Dutch tend to appear all across preservationist/nationalist boards pretty much in abundance. :shrug

Or of course the Scots, who are actually reasonably allowed to be patriotic. There's always only a handful about them too, and no one can explain why.

SouthernBoy
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 11:16 PM
Still, Sweden is in general a more family- and child-friendly society than Germany, I believe. I'm not convinced (http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/25s3099.html).

TheGreatest
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 11:19 PM
I'll leave that standing, because I'm not too sure. Actually from a lot of the Swedes that I have met, it is sad and painful to see how such a traditionally proud and wonderful nation can get so close to the brink of chaos without more taking a stand. It is good to see that increasingly more do so. :thumbup

However, brainwashed or not: I doubt that's a deciding factor. If Swedes, Norwegians and especially Danes are a "rare oddity" on forums like these, then residents/natives of Austria are even less; and considering our electoral results and the high percentage of EU-critical attitudes, we're perhaps one of the least, if not THE least brainwashed Germanic country (except for the front of the "German question", but that's a different matter altogether, different type of brainwashing).

If we do become active, we become very active and noticeable at some point: Look at the likes of Agrippa, Blutwölfin or myself. Or for newer registrations, Sissi (it is hard to believe she has less than 200 posts because she always has something relevant to say :); in the past also newenstad.

The same by the way goes for Switzerland. It is unexplainable why we do not have more Swiss on here. And that's again with them being a lot less brainwashed than I have experienced with many Dutch people: And the Dutch tend to appear all across preservationist/nationalist boards pretty much in abundance. :shrug

Or of course the Scots, who are actually reasonably allowed to be patriotic. There's always only a handful about them too, and no one can explain why.

Maybe because Scottish nationalism has them having nothing to do with the British, let alone continentals?

It's Quebec-styled nationalism, if Scotland becomes an independent country, all it will do is import millions of blacks and Arabs to their ''Scottish Republic", oh the irony!

Sigurd
Saturday, April 25th, 2009, 11:27 PM
Maybe because Scottish nationalism has them having nothing to do with the British, let alone continentals?

It's Quebec-styled nationalism, if Scotland becomes an independent country, all it will do is import millions of blacks and Arabs to their ''Scottish Republic", oh the irony!

Take it easy, pal. No one is talking about the independence matter here. That's too complex an issue to deal with in mere two lines. Instead we are talking about the fact, that unlike the English, or the Germans, or the Swedes - they are allowed to be proud of their culture and their ethnicity.

Nor are we talking about their presence on Skadi alone. There's relatively few Scots on ANY of these boards, even Stormfront doesn't count particularly many of them in their rows!

All I said is: When they're allowed to be proud of who they are, and their roots - why are they nowhere to be found on any of these boards? Or is it perhaps true that many are brought to "our causes" by reactionism only rather than coming from a patriotic background?

Hel, I said nothing more and nothing less. You read too much between the lines. :P

Freja_se
Sunday, April 26th, 2009, 12:25 PM
Yeah but, come on, I've actually been to Malmö. I know there's plenty of aliens there, and it's not an ideal place to live, but it's not fucking Timor-Leste.



Rosengård is NOT representative for Malmö.

Rosengård is like walking into black Harlem or Bronx in New York, or East LA, with a video camera, saying to us this is what it looks like there!

Almost all immigrants in Malmö reside in Rosengård, and only in Rosengård. They prefer that area themselves. A vast majority of them live on welfare checks (86 % in one survey), and contribute nothing to society.There are hardly any ethnic Swedes there at all.

There are vast areas of Malmö where there are predominantly ethnic Swedes, and in some areas there are only ethnic Swedes. If you choose to show the immigrant area take it for what it is..but don't try to say it's what Malmö generally looks like.



I do believe the indoctrination of the Swedish people are way worse than its Nordic neighbors, you can see that in the amount of immigrants to Swedes in the populous, .

It is incorrect to assume that we are indoctrinated simply because our government has a faulty immigration policy. Many Swedes are fed up, actually. However, since we have the same problem almost every white Western country has, of governments running amok, there is not much you can do as an average person. You can vote, and that's about it.

When every major, established party approves of the immigration and say we need immigrants since our population is aging..what can you do? This type of explanation is given by politicians in almost all Western countries, by the way. How they expect immigrants to contribute anything to the aging populations is beyond me since many of them don't have a job and no real desire to assimilate. When they do work they often don't pay taxes, adding only to the black economy and nothing to the system.


I never said it was friend, but from the videos/photos I have seen and the articles I have read, it does not look, sound nor seem like it is a walk in the park either.

No, it's not a walk in the park in Rosengård. Your problem seems to be that you cannot differentiate between Rosengård and Malmö. Rosengård is the immigrant area of Malmö. It is very segregated.

Sigurd
Sunday, April 26th, 2009, 12:41 PM
Exactly. If someone posted pictures of foreigners in Olympisches Dorf, or St. Nikolaus, or Saggen-Schlachthof (the rest of Saggen is very posh and you'd be hard-pressed to find a foreigner) or to some extent Reichenau (parts are flooded, parts are indigenous working class), and saw that as characteristic for all of Innsbruck, then that would be incorrect too, and I would meet with contempt. ;)

Freja_se
Sunday, April 26th, 2009, 12:43 PM
However, brainwashed or not: I doubt that's a deciding factor.

I guess we are all brainwashed...since we all have the same problems with immigration and our governments, who have nothing but contempt for ordinary citizens.


I guess, by that same reasoning, that Americans must LOVE Mexican immigrants since they continue to flood the country and not much is done to deport them, or to make it more difficult for them to come into the country.

The English must LOVE blacks and be brainwashed..since they are in so many photos of the English. The Germans have half of Turkey in their country, so do they just love Turks.....or are they betrayed?



Look, it is important to differentiate between party politics and the will of ordinary people, two things that are increasingly at conflict in Western societies.
I wouldn't insult Americans by assuming they love Mexicans and immigration.
I would blame their government - the ones who are in power.

Saying we are brainwashed is uncalled for. Most Swedes are fed up with this situation but don't know what to do. There is an ever widening gap between the people and our politicians. THAT is the overriding problem in ALL Western countries, I think.

SwordOfTheVistula
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 06:57 AM
Saying we are brainwashed is uncalled for. Most Swedes are fed up with this situation but don't know what to do. There is an ever widening gap between the people and our politicians. THAT is the overriding problem in ALL Western countries, I think.

But you don't have the 'two party system' like we do?

Gustavus Magnus
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 10:21 AM
But you don't have the 'two party system' like we do?

I'm not sure if I have understood you correctly, but we have 7 parties in our parliament. However, there is two major parties (the ruling right-wing moderate party and the opposition socialist party) that are the only real alternative for a cabinet, but they need other parties to achieve majority.

You could say we have two blocs: The right-wing ruling bloc with the dominating Moderate Party, the conservative Christian Democrats, the liberal People's Party, and the agriculture-oriented Central Party. And then there's the other bloc, with the socialist Social Democrats, the communist Left Party, and the rather confusing but basically socialist Green Party.

Sigurd
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 12:27 PM
Note there: The Swedish "right-wing" block isn't really along the lines of the same "right-wing" we define ourselves by. ;)

Gustavus Magnus
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Note there: The Swedish "right-wing" block isn't really along the lines of the same "right-wing" we define ourselves by. ;)

Not since the 90's, no.

Oswiu
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 09:37 PM
Note there: The Swedish "right-wing" block isn't really along the lines of the same "right-wing" we define ourselves by. ;)
WE aren't necessarily 'right wing' at ALL, Siggy! Stop letting the enemy define us!

Aptrgangr
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 09:56 PM
WE aren't necessarily 'right wing' at ALL, Siggy! Stop letting the enemy define us!


Right-wing (classic): For God, King and Fatherland, parliamentarian faction sitting at the right side of the national assembly.

It is a fraudulent claim parties like the christian democrats were right-wing/conservative as no party promoting cultural marxism ever can qualify to represent folk and nation and to struggle for their benefit.
Fact is the liberal democracies have one-party assemblies, this one party has several feuding factions that call themselves social democrats, liberals..., however, the main direction, dissolving the national state including the indigenous population through globalization and multiculturalism is the common denominator.

Oswiu
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 10:02 PM
Almost all immigrants in Malmö reside in Rosengård, and only in Rosengård. They prefer that area themselves. A vast majority of them live on welfare checks (86 % in one survey), and contribute nothing to society.There are hardly any ethnic Swedes there at all.

In England, especially in the big cities, but more and more in the smaller towns, immigrants tend to dominate several types of business, especially take aways, taxis, and small retail. They also are very big in the less visible but more fundamental sphere of buying property, especially houses and entire streets to rent back to our people. Has this not happened in Sweden?

Sigurd
Tuesday, April 28th, 2009, 10:12 PM
WE aren't necessarily 'right wing' at ALL, Siggy! Stop letting the enemy define us!

Don't you worry, as a folk-centered (i.e. = folk-collectivist), revolutionary, against-the-status-quo idea, our stride is of course defined as "left-wing" rather than "right-wing", and if I self-defined myself in a world of non-polemics I would thus refer to myself as "left-wing" and our stride all the same.

My point here was rather --- "before anyone thinks so, they don't have any goals in common with us". Today's rightwing is almost following classical definitions again: hyper-capitalistic, socially liberalistic, etc ... aaargh, let's just forget the political spectrum altogether.

Let's just say, our stride is "Folkish". That is closer to the truth. Our ideal is clearly beyond a spectrum classification. It's not even really an ideological ideal, it's an organic ideal, and organic ideals cannot be classified one way or the other. Full stop. :P:thumbup

Blod og Jord
Tuesday, May 19th, 2009, 11:46 AM
I'm not think we are more brainwashed than the the other countries.
If you use Malmö to have an image on us then it's warped.
Like using the Turkish quarter in Berlin to think of Germany.
You see? It's not accurate.
If you want to hear a Scandinavian point of view,
I'm think it's probably because we don't know so much of the existence of Skadi.
I'm didn't hear of it until from nordisk forums.
Some of us are shy about English too.
But I consider Skadi a best opportunity to improve my English.

Blod og Jord
Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 06:10 AM
Easy, this site is distinctly anti-Scandinavian. They like to bash Scandinavians every chance they get. Apparently we are all quasi-mongols. Nice to know.
I'm not think it's a fair assessment to say the whole site is anti-Scandinavian,
when it's just a few uninformed or silly members who say bad things about Scandinavians.
I'm got the impression many people here are in solidarity with Scandinavian people. From the immigration threads at least.
They sympathize with us. That was my impression at least.

Freja_se
Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 06:15 AM
I'm not think it's a fair assessment to say the whole site is anti-Scandinavian,
when it's just a few uninformed or silly members who say bad things about Scandinavians.
I'm got the impression many people here are in solidarity with Scandinavian people. From the immigration threads at least.
They sympathize with us. That was my impression at least.

They are not in solidarity. They are a group of rather envious people who cannot stand that they themselves are not part of the Nordic ideal. What you cannot have or be you will try to tear down. That's what this looks like to me. Very sad.

Since most Scandianvians see through this bashing fairly quickly, and the reason for it, the site will not have a large Scandinavian participation. That answers the original question in this thread.

Hauke Haien
Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 06:16 AM
It is recommended to report anti-Germanic comments as rule 1 (a). violations using the button to the left of the post in question (the triangle). Contentious assertions are generally expected to be backed up with reliable sources and to be presented in a civil manner. A number of posts that did not comply with these conditions have already been removed, perhaps you are referring to them?

Nachtengel
Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 06:19 AM
I don't think it's a matter of misinformation. I think it's a matter of scope. These people who bash Scandinavians for being Mongoliform are Slavophiles and Mediterranophiles. And Scandinavians aren't the only Germanic people they bash. They also have something against East Germans, they label them as Slavs and not Germanic. It all comes from hatred towards Germanicism. They don't know what new theories to come up with to discredit Germanicism and it's perfectly explainable why: they hate the idea of exclusivity. They dislike that their Russian and Mediterranean friends aren't included.

Freja_se
Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 06:25 AM
It is recommended to report anti-Germanic comments as rule 1 (a). violations using the button to the left of the post in question (the triangle). Contentious assertions are generally expected to be backed up with reliable sources and to be presented in a civil manner. A number of posts that did not comply with these conditions have already been removed, perhaps you are referring to them?

I am referring to the repeated downtalk of Scandinavians. Painting a false portrait of us as some kind of quasi mongols. The only thing I have seen coming from non-Scandinavians here, regarding us, are insulting, false and nasty comments and pictures, in an attempt to turn our people into a non-pure mixture, and it is simply wrong and upsetting.


The latest remark I saw just now was something to the effect of "A German might mistake a Sami for a Scandianvian". It was removed just now by a moderator. Are these comments helpful? The only conclusion is that the site is VERY anti-Scandinavian and that this is the reason for the poor participation of Scandinavians. The moderators are not to blame, I think. It's the members here.

After all, we are not interested in joining a site where we have to defend our race all the time, and be in constant opposition to those writing untrue and nasty remarks. It stinks of envy. It's the second time after a break that I immediately run into this sort of thing and enough is enough.

Blod og Jord
Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 06:27 AM
They are not in solidarity. They are a group of rather envious people who cannot stand that they themselves are not part of the Nordic ideal. What you cannot have or be you will try to tear down. That's what this looks like to me. Very sad.

Since most Scandianvians see through this bashing fairly quickly, and the reason for it, the site will not have a large Scandinavian participation. That answers the original question in this thread.
Besides the Sami thread I haven't seen anti-Scandinavian reactions.
Maybe I'm not read them ??

Nachtengel
Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 06:32 AM
The latest remark I saw just now was something to the effect of "A German might mistake a Sami for a Scandianvian". It was removed just now by a moderator. Are these comments helpful?
It's also a comment insulting and mocking to Germans, as if we couldn't be able to tell between European and Mongoloid phenotypes. I would never mistake a Sami for a Scandinavian and I don't think any other German I know would. Their phenotype looks alien anywhere among Europids.

Aptrgangr
Saturday, May 23rd, 2009, 03:54 PM
I don't think it's a matter of misinformation. I think it's a matter of scope. These people who bash Scandinavians for being Mongoliform are Slavophiles and Mediterranophiles. And Scandinavians aren't the only Germanic people they bash. They also have something against East Germans, they label them as Slavs and not Germanic. It all comes from hatred towards Germanicism. They don't know what new theories to come up with to discredit Germanicism and it's perfectly explainable why: they hate the idea of exclusivity. They dislike that their Russian and Mediterranean friends aren't included.

What is the definition of Germanicism?

Matthieu Borg
Friday, June 5th, 2009, 11:21 AM
DKAM2iNO0_E

Edit: Thank you Hrodnand.


You tube bullcrap, Malmö is not different from Berlin, trust me. Malmö's Rosengård district is not different from Kreuzberg in Berlin, and I dare say that the social situation in Berlin in general is worse than in Malmö
considering the index of poverty. Indeed, Malmö isn't different from none big north european city on nowdays, and where you can add on your list Rotterdam, Hamburg, London, Berlim, Brussels..etc!

Bärin
Friday, June 5th, 2009, 11:39 AM
What is the definition of Germanicism?
Why are you here if you ask such questions? :oanieyes

Germanicism is the common link and support between Germanic nations.

Swedes, please don't take Aptrgangr's nonsense serious as a representation of all Germans. Germans don't usually think of you as Mongoloids. :thumbdown

Sigurd
Friday, June 5th, 2009, 12:21 PM
I actually think he has a valid enough question: Virtually ever other person here defines "Germanicism" different and there appears to be no consensus as to what immediately constitutes Germanicism, and which ideas are outwith it. :shrug

Siebenbürgerin
Friday, June 5th, 2009, 12:41 PM
Hmm, I could say my own experience as member of a group which isn't very numerous. When I joined the forum, there weren't other Transylvanian Saxons, and the topic wasn't very exploited here. But after I joined some people were interested, to know more, and then after a while more Transylvanian Saxons joined and invited their friends of same ethnicity. My point is, the Scandinavians who want more of their own should be active, especially in the Scandinavian forums, because that's how it starts, the interest. It's a little bit difficult at first and you've few people to converse with, but it pays off, trust me. :)

Freja_se
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 01:04 AM
Why are you here if you ask such questions? :oanieyes

Germanicism is the common link and support between Germanic nations.

Swedes, please don't take Aptrgangr's nonsense serious as a representation of all Germans. Germans don't usually think of you as Mongoloids. :thumbdown

That's OK. Scandinavians don't usually think of Germans as Mongoloids either.

Aptrgangr
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 01:23 PM
Why are you here if you ask such questions? :oanieyes
Germanicism is the common link and support between Germanic nations.
How does this common link look like? In times of lacking ethnic consciousness and fading indigenous culture and national sovereignity it makes more sense to strengthen the positive attibutes locally, without an abstract common denominator.
And how is there a greater support between those nations anyway? So far I can not detect a political movement that seriously tries to improve the relations between Germanic nations.


Swedes, please don't take Aptrgangr's nonsense serious as a representation of all Germans. Germans don't usually think of you as Mongoloids. :thumbdown
Huh? When did I say I think Swedes were "Mongoloids" - being mongoloid means having the Down-Syndrome.

Norman Pride
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 04:48 PM
The only thing I have seen coming from non-Scandinavians here, regarding us, are insulting, false and nasty comments and pictures, in an attempt to turn our people into a non-pure mixture, and it is simply wrong and upsetting.
Freja_se,
I understand why you are upset. I would be too, probably. However, I am a non-Scandinavian and I have nothing insulting and nasty to say about your folk. In fact, I admire the Swedes and Scandinavians. It seems to me that they have kept closer to the indigenous Germanic ways than other people. I'd be inclined to think there are others like me, who bear your folk no ill will.

I am another one who has the feeling some of the bad comments stem from ignorance and lack of knowledge. Please, I urge you to stay on Skadi and enlighten us more about your country, your folk, your customs, your traditions. I would be happy to learn and I'm sure I'm not alone. After all, Scandinavia is the Germanic craddle or womb, so it's no negligible topic. Please consider.

Nachtengel
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 05:28 PM
No, it's not about ignorance. It's about agendas. Anti-Nordic and anti-Germanic agendas, whose missionaries come here and try to spread. They try to deconstruct Germanicism because it conflicts with their pan-Europeanism and because 'the future is swarthy, we better get used to it'.
Even though such people roam Skadi and infuse it with this garbage, it's not comparable to the kind of insults encountered elsewhere, and at least they aren't official policy of the management here.

snublefot
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 06:42 PM
They are not in solidarity. They are a group of rather envious people who cannot stand that they themselves are not part of the Nordic ideal. What you cannot have or be you will try to tear down. That's what this looks like to me. Very sad.

Since most Scandianvians see through this bashing fairly quickly, and the reason for it, the site will not have a large Scandinavian participation. That answers the original question in this thread.

Sorry, but I fail to see this picture you are painting.

xcrawlxawayx
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 08:41 PM
:thumbup We are here we just prefer to be quiet and reserved , and mellow..I think there is a lot of Scandinavians on here...well just browsing through here...come out my fellow friends.

Gustavus Magnus
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 09:35 PM
:thumbup We are here we just prefer to be quiet and reserved , and mellow..I think there is a lot of Scandinavians on here...well just browsing through here...come out my fellow friends.

Are you claiming to be of Scandinavian descent?

Nachtengel
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 09:38 PM
I meant European Scandinavians, the ones who live in Scandinavia and speak a Scandinavian mother tongue, not Americans of Scandinavian descent...

xcrawlxawayx
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 09:59 PM
I meant European Scandinavians, the ones who live in Scandinavia and speak a Scandinavian mother tongue, not Americans of Scandinavian descent...

cool, we are Scandinavians we just live in The U.S as of a few years ago , sorry for the misunderstanding :-(

Nachtengel
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 10:36 PM
cool, we are Scandinavians we just live in The U.S as of a few years ago , sorry for the misunderstanding :-(
Ok so you actually were born in Scandinavia, but only moved to the US a few years ago? it confuses me, because you said in your introduction thread that you don't speak Norwegian, and you can only understand it by the face expression and such... if you only moved to the US years ago, how come you don't speak your language? Or were you born somewhere else? Sorry it's just a bit unclear to me.

Freja_se
Friday, June 19th, 2009, 12:40 AM
cool, we are Scandinavians we just live in The U.S as of a few years ago , sorry for the misunderstanding :-(

You are the first Scandinavian I have ever seen that calls themselves "Presbyterian". That's something you see in the US and the UK. I don't think it even exists here.

Another thing I have noticed is that Americans often put three or more countries as their ancestry, in this case "Scotland,Norway,Finland,Denmark etc.". That is very unusual for Europeans. It makes it likely that this person is American or British since they also put Presbyterian, which would be highly unusual for a Scandinavian, to say the least.