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Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 02:35 PM
The steely hearted "Angel of Death", whose mission was to create a master race fit for the Third Reich, was the resident medic at Auschwitz from May 1943 until his flight in the face of the Red Army advance in January 1945.

His task was to carry out experiments to discover by what method of genetic quirk twins were produced – and then to artificially increase the Aryan birthrate for his master, Adolf Hitler.

Now, a historian claims, Mengele's notorious experiments may have borne fruit.

For years scientists have failed to discover why as many as one in five pregnancies in a small Brazilian town have resulted in twins – most of them blond haired and blue eyed.

But residents of Candido Godoi now claim that Mengele made repeated visits there in the early 1960s, posing at first as a vet but then offering medical treatment to the women of the town.

Shuttling between Argentina, Paraguay and Brazil, he managed to evade justice before his death in 1979, but his dreams of a Nazi master race appeared unfulfilled.

In a new book, Mengele: the Angel of Death in South America, the Argentine historian Jorge Camarasa, a specialist in the post-war Nazi flight to South America, has painstakingly pieced together the Nazi doctor's mysterious later years.

After speaking to the townspeople of Candido Godoi, he is convinced that Mengele continued his genetic experiments with twins – with startling results.

He reveals how, after working with cattle farmers in Argentina to increase their stock, Mengele fled the country after fellow Nazi, Adolf Eichmann, was kidnapped by Israeli agents.

He claims that Mengele found refuge in the German enclave of Colonias Unidas, Paraguay, and from there, in 1963, began to make regular trips to another predominantly German community just over the border in Brazil – the farming community of Candido Godoi.

And, Mr Camaras claims, it was here that soon after the birthrate of twins began to spiral.

"I think Candido Godoi may have been Mengele's laboratory, where he finally managed to fulfil his dreams of creating a master race of blond haired, blue eyed Aryans," he said.

"There is testimony that he attended women, followed their pregnancies, treated them with new types of drugs and preparations, that he talked of artificial insemination in human beings, and that he continued working with animals, proclaiming that he was capable of getting cows to produce male twins."

The urbane German who arrived in Candido Godoi was remembered with fondness by many of the townspeople.

"He told us he was a vet," said Aloisi Finkler, a local farmer interviewed by Mr Camarasa. "He asked about illnesses we had among our animals, and told us not to worry, he could cure them. He appeared a cultured and dignified man."

Another farmer, Leonardo Boufler, said: "He went from farm to farm checking the animals. He checked them for TB, and injected those that were infected. He said he could carry out artificial insemination of cows and humans, which we thought impossible as in those days it was unheard of."

But the Nazi eugenicist did not concentrate on animals alone.

A former mayor and town doctor, Anencia Flores da Silva, set out to try to solve the town's mystery. He interviewed hundreds of people, and discovered one character who crept on cropping up: an itinerant medic calling himself Rudolph Weiss.

Dr da Silva said: "In the testimonies we collected we came across women who were treated by him, he appeared to be some sort of rural medic who went from house to house. He attended women who had varicose veins and gave them a potion which he carried in a bottle, or tablets which he brought with him. Sometimes he carried out dental work, and everyone remembers he used to take blood."

The people of Candido Godoi now largely accept that a Nazi war criminal was an inadvertent guest of theirs for several years in the early 1960s. The town's official crest shows two identical profiles and a road sign welcomes visitors to a "Farming Community and Land of the Twins". There is also a museum, the House of the Twins.

While the twins birthrate varies widely in different countries, it is typically about one in 80 pregnancies – a statistic that has left Mr Camarasa certain in his claim that Mengele was successfully pursuing his dreams of creating a master race, a real-life Boys from Brazil.

"Nobody knows for sure exactly what date Mengele arrived in Candido Godoi, but the first twins were born in 1963, the year in which we first hear reports of his presence," he said.


Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:03 PM
How the hell can you manipulate pregnancies into delivering twins?

Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:23 PM
Sounds like nonsense. Is it just a Germanophobe just horrified at the existence of a healthy Germanic community producing babies?
They must be thinking "Why is there a Germanic community? didn't they know they were the spawn of Satan and should have gone extinct with shame or miscegenation".
No doubt the people that hate any kind of Germanic consciousness and existence look forward to the day no more blue eyed children will be born and blonde hair is regarded as a myth.

Thursday, January 22nd, 2009, 11:33 PM
I hope it is true. It might be useful considering the degradation of the Germanic gene pools.

Thank you for the post - I hadn't heard anything like this previously. I agree; however, that it is most probably propaganda.

Saturday, January 24th, 2009, 04:29 PM
fertility drugs, IVF treatments etc. have been shown to increase occurence of twins. There could be some truth in it - if he deliberately set out to find a way to do it, it is possible he found one. If so, it's a heart warming story (well I think so anyway :P) good work Mr... sorry, Dr. Mengele ;)

Saturday, January 24th, 2009, 05:18 PM
For that you'd need a lot of $$$ and equipment, something a Nazi on the run isn't going to possess readily.

Maybe he fed them a lot of cassava, which is supposed to increase ovulation and higher the chances of having twins. Supposing this story isn't utter nonsense to begin with.


Saturday, January 24th, 2009, 06:13 PM
I wonder at how he managed to get continuing twins. This is more than just the women he treated. IVF, hormone treatments etc can increase the chances of twins but something that will be carried on to children and grandchildren is significant.

I wish that it were someone with a less dark past who made these discoveries.:( As it stands we do not know what he did and cannot replicate or verify his results. Yes the twins are apparent but have they been checked for side effects from whatever treatments were given to their mothers of grandmothers? It seems that some people knew he was trying to increase twins but I am concerned that the women in question did not give informed consent.

I am not a fan of IVF and other extreme fertility treatments so I am not dismayed that this ?procedure? is not available to everyone.

But good for them having a positive birth rate. They have a positive birth rate but do not know what it is from the article or the wikipedia page.

Saturday, January 24th, 2009, 08:05 PM
Yes, this is likely more jabber designed by the Nefarious Ones to keep the Teutonic hoi ploi in line - just one more excuse to dredge up so-called history and show the Goyim what a naughty race we are.

But, let's assume it's true. Let's assume the good Doktor managed to create a rain forest full of blonde haired, blue eyed Wunderkinder with amazing I-Q's, long shanks and rippling abs. SO WHAT! That sounds like a GOOD thing to me!

How fitting that he of all people would help the gene pool replace what the blonde Germanics that were sacrificed on the Russian steppes long ago in defense of Western Civilisation. And even more fitting that he of all people would have helped create replacements for the likes of Nicole Brown and Elin Nordegren, aka Mrs. Tiger Woods - and countless other women of our Blood who are selling themselves for the golden wealth that flows from a brown marriage.

Saturday, January 24th, 2009, 09:00 PM
How the hell can you manipulate pregnancies into delivering twins?

From something I in my childhood years came up with when I heard about these kind of experiments. By somhow making the fertilised egg split it self up in two seperate organisms. Mind you, at that age I was thinking about lasers cutting it in two halves.;)

Tuesday, January 27th, 2009, 02:45 AM
I wonder if there is some truth to this, what exactly he learnt which allowed him to effect this most interesting case of the "Town of Twins".

Very interesting...I hope in the future more as concerns this comes to light, and in some way may be siezed upon to aid us in our struggle to remain alive, active, and in control of our societies, and our place in the World.


Tuesday, January 27th, 2009, 08:37 AM
How the hell can you manipulate pregnancies into delivering twins?
We don't know for sure, but medicine is a science which evolves through new discoveries. Mengele sought to unlock the secret of twin pregnancies which was one of his main research themes at Auschwitz. But I don't think we will know for sure, because when he fled Auschwitz, he took all his medical notes with him. I'm wondering if the researchers are interested in finding the truth or they're reluctant because a finding that Mengele made an important medical discovery would challenge their version that the Nazi doctors experimented with people just for their own sadistic amusement.

Tuesday, January 27th, 2009, 01:44 PM
According to this report Dr. Mengele was not Dr. Wiess. Whomever the mysterious Dr Weiss was he seemed to know something about reproduction that we do not.

So what is the truth? Could Rudolph Weiss have been the Angel of Death?

I have spent the past two years researching an authoritative account of what became of Nazi war criminals in the aftermath of Allied victory, and how - thanks to the naivety, incompetence and even collusion of investigators - many of them were able to escape to forge new lives abroad.

My research took me to the South American heartlands where Mengele hid.

I visited the remote towns where German communities are said to have conspired to hide war criminals in exile and examined the many myths that have built up around them.

And sadly, for those who like their history to be sensational, there can be little doubt that Camarasa's claims belong in the realm of fantasy.

For the true story of Josef Mengele in hiding is not that of a medical mastermind, secretly creating a race of Aryan twins, but one of a bitter and lonely man who was living out his days estranged from his family and his homeland.

All the evidence suggests that there was no laboratory - in Candido Godoi or anywhere else - and neither did Mengele travel around Brazil good-naturedly dispensing medication to pregnant women and cattle, because in truth he was so terrified of being identified that he lived as a recluse.

At the time when the mysterious Dr Weiss was making his 'rounds', Mengele was in fact living 800 miles away on a farm 200 miles north of Sao Paulo.
Full article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1126816/Are-twins-Angel-Deaths-secret-tribe-Not-likely-says-GUY-WALTERS.html)

Monday, March 30th, 2009, 06:48 AM
Mystery of the ‘Land of Twins’: Something in the Water? Mengele?

Source: New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/23/world/americas/23twins.html?_r=3)

CÂNDIDO GODÓI, Brazil — High atop a hill behind his family’s home, Derli Grimm knelt and took a sip from a thin black tube leading from a natural spring.

Like so many in this farming town, populated almost entirely by German-speaking immigrants, Mr. Grimm, 19, believes that something in the water — a mysterious mineral, perhaps — is responsible for the town’s unusual concentration of twins.


“It can’t all be explained by genetics,” said Mr. Grimm, himself a twin.

Geneticists would like to disagree with him, but even they have no solid explanation for the 38 pairs of twins among about 80 families living in a one-and-a-half-square-mile area.

The mystery has persisted for decades, attracting international attention and inspiring books and investigations by geneticists. It is one reason locals are in no hurry to try to prove their water theory. They are too busy posing for journalists and marketing their town to tourists as the “twins capital of the world.”

Some researchers have suggested the darker possibility that Josef Mengele, the Nazi physician known as the Angel of Death, was involved. Mengele, residents say, roamed this region of southern Brazil, posing as a veterinarian, in the 1960s, about the time the twins explosion began. In a book published last year, an Argentine journalist, Jorge Camarasa, suggested that Mengele conducted experiments with women here that resulted in the higher rate of twins, many of them with blond hair and light-colored eyes. The experiments, locals said, may have involved new types of drugs and preparations, or even the artificial insemination Mengele claimed to know about, regarding cows and humans.

But neither Mr. Camarasa nor any other adherent of the Mengele theory has been able to prove the escaped Nazi conducted any experiments here. Mengele, who died in Brazil in 1979, was notorious for his often deadly experiments on twins at Auschwitz, ostensibly in an effort to produce a master Aryan race for Hitler.

“People who are speculating about Mengele are doing so to sell books,” said Paulo Sauthier, a historian who runs a museum here. “He studied the twins phenomenon in Germany, not here.”


A sign at the entrance to Cândido Godói says, “Garden City and Land of Twins.” More than 80 percent of its 6,700 residents are of German descent. They began arriving around World War I, lured by the prospect of cheap land, an agreeable farming climate and incentives from the Brazilian government to colonize the area.

The twins phenomenon is centered in the 300-person settlement of São Pedro, the part of Cândido Godói where the Grimms live. Mr. Sauthier, a twin, was born here in 1964. His mother, a Grimm, comes from one of the eight original families to settle São Pedro in 1918.

Even today they live a relatively isolated existence. Oxen still drag farm machinery. Residents speak a German dialect to one another.

It was in the early 1990s that the high proportion of twins was widely noticed. Soon, camera crews were rolling in from all over. Town leaders declared São Pedro to have the highest concentration of twins in the world. (A spokesman for Guinness World Records could not confirm that claim, saying Guinness did not keep track of the category.)

Today, residents relish the attention. Last year, at São Pedro’s sixth biennial twins party, they erected a statue of a woman holding a boy in one arm and his twin sister in the other, and installed a moat-like “fertility spring” that lights up at night.

Like many twins here, Fabiane and Tatiane Grimm, 22, have been posing for twins-seekers since they were babies. When a journalist and a photographer showed up unannounced, their mother ushered them from a barn into the house to shower before posing for pictures.

“It’s not too much of a mystery to me,” said Fabiane, whose family has five pairs of twins. “My brother married his third cousin. There are lots of cases like that, people marrying their cousins or other close family members.”

But to some, the mystery remains. A decade ago, Anencir Flores da Silva, a town doctor and former mayor of Cândido Godói, set out to solve it, and he has since interviewed more than 100 people. He said he believed that people were holding back information about Mengele.

“In a region full of Nazis, there are some that remain silent, who are scared,” Dr. da Silva said. “It is important that we discover the truth.”

A book he helped write about the twins, published in 2007, tells of several visits Mengele made to the region, using false names.

“I am convinced that Mengele was in the region and was observing the twins phenomenon,” Dr. da Silva said. He said a man identifying himself as Rudolf Weiss attended women with varicose veins and sometimes performed dental work. And some residents told him a German man was driving from home to home in a mobile laboratory, collecting samples and ministering to women.

Mr. Sauthier, the historian, said that the assertions lacked proof and that the German community did not deserve to be associated with “a criminal like Mengele.”

“There are no Nazi sympathizers in this region,” he said, although he acknowledged a historical interest in Nazi artifacts, including a 1937 metal milk can with a swastika in his museum and a 1936 photo of schoolchildren in Cândido Godói holding swastika flags that was included in Dr. da Silva’s book.

Geneticists say the most likely explanation for the twins is genetic isolation and inbreeding. Ursula Matte, a geneticist in Porto Alegre, found that from 1990 to 1994, 10 percent of the births in São Pedro were twins, compared with 1.8 percent for the state of Rio Grande do Sul.

There was no evidence of the use of contraceptives or fertility drugs among the women, nor of any genetic mixing with people of African origin, who have higher twinning rates than caucasians, Dr. Matte said. But the rate of identical twins here, at 47 percent of all twin births, is far higher than the 30 percent that is expected in the general population, she found.

While identical twins are generally thought to occur randomly in the population, independent of genetic factors, the remarkable discrepancy in the frequency of identical twins has led Dr. Matte to conclude that Sao Pedro is an "isolated phenomenon" where unknown genetic factors must be at work.

So the speculation continues.

Mr. Sauthier said he believed private water sources like the one Derli Grimm enjoys contain a mineral that affects ovulation. “To this day, no one has tested that water,” he said, noting that in the past decade the town switched to underground well water, a possible explanation for a recent decline in twin births.

Testing the spring sources would be expensive and, Dr. Matte said, would require some hypothesis about what the research was looking for. She doubts the town will ever push seriously to do a study. “They like to maintain the mystery,” she said.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: February 25, 2009

The Cândido Godói Journal article on Monday, about the unexplained proliferation of twins born in the farming town of Cândido Godói in southern Brazil, misstated the type of twins usually associated with a genetic tendency of the mother. They are fraternal twins — like a majority of those born in the town. They are not identical twins, which are generally believed to be conceived by chance.

Tuesday, April 21st, 2009, 05:43 AM
I wish that it were someone with a less dark past who made these discoveries.:(
What "dark past"? The exaggerations created by Jewish and anti-German propagandists, who want to insult German history and German scientific achievements? If it wasn't for Dr. Mengele's work, we would still be in the dark about some diseases today. He just happened to be a "Nazi", so everything he did was eeeeevil. Nevermind that the US itself ran eugenics programs, as well as many other nations at that time.

Before believing everything that's said, one should read what the other side has to say, people who are neither anti-Nazis nor Nazis themselves.

Lessons of the Josef Mengele Affair (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=113010)

And even if it was true, how is the author's life relevant to his scientific work?

Tuesday, April 21st, 2009, 06:13 AM
So a community of Germans with twins exists in Brazil, wow, it must be inherently nazi, because we all know that German = nazi, and since Mengele lived in Brazil, we can pull a rabbit out of the hat and call it a nazi experiment. :oanieyes

LOL, some of you are far too credulous. :D

Thursday, November 26th, 2009, 08:23 PM

Did Nazi doctor Josef Mengele carry on his sadistic science decades after World War II?

Recent reports have held up a remote Brazilian town—filled with blonde, blue-eyed twins—as evidence of Mengele's postwar attempts to add to the ranks of an Aryan "master race."

But research announced today says Cândido Godói's "Nazi twins" are nothing more than a myth.

The outback town of about 7,000 has a twin rate nearly 1,000 percent higher than the global average.

The twins' fair features are no mystery—Cândido Godói (map) is largely populated by the descendents of German immigrants. But the frequency of twin births is a decades-old mystery.

Earlier this year Argentine historian Jorge Camarasa offered a bombshell of an explanation in his book Mengele: The Angel of Death in South America.

In World War II, Mengele, aka the Angel of Death, was mainly interested in twin research while serving as chief doctor at the Birkenau extermination camp in Poland.

According to Camarasa, Mengele likely continued his twin experiments in the 1960s while on the run in South America.

Mengele disguised himself as a roaming physician and veterinarian and gave pregnant women in Cândido Godói an ahead-of-its-time, twin-inducing mix of drugs or hormones, the historian suggests.

Video: The Twins of Cândido Godói

Camarasa cites interviews with locals who say they remember the visits of a traveling German doctor who provided mysterious potions or drugs.

The locals recalled him by different names, Camarasa explained. But each interviewee had the same reaction when shown a picture of Mengele: "That's him."

Mengele was in fact in Brazil during much of his South American exile, which began in 1949 and ended in 1979, when he died of a stroke while living under an assumed name.

During the war, Mengele and colleagues had used Jewish prisoners in often deadly fertility experiments. The ultimate aim: to provide more Aryans to populate Hitler's "Thousand Year Reich."

Twin Boom Predates Nazi's Exile

The twins of Cândido Godói—most of them fraternal, or nonidentical—are eager to shake their supposed Nazi connection.

"Because of these rumors that Mengele was there, the population gets very upset about it," said geneticist Lavinia Schuler-Faccini of Brazil's Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul. "So some leaders of the community asked the university to start a project to try and understand why this place has such a high incidence of twin births."

The resulting research, led by Schuler-Faccini and backed by the Brazilian government, is featured in a new documentary: Explorer: Nazi Mystery—Twins From Brazil, which airs Sunday, November 29, at 9 p.m. ET/PT on the National Geographic Channel. (The National Geographic Society owns National Geographic News and part-owns the National Geographic Channel.)

Video: The Researchers at Work

For the initial phase of their study—which has not yet been published or reviewed by outside scientists—the team combed through baptismal records, which the researchers say should cover about 75 percent of the children born in predominantly Catholic Cândido Godói. The records would reveal where and when the town's many twin births had occurred.

The town's baptismal records date back to 1927, long before Mengele's supposed arrival—and so does the exceptional rate of twinning, the team discovered.

Furthermore, the records show no "surge" in twinning in the 1960s, when Mengele is said to have experimented on the local populace, the study says.

Also, the high rate of twin births continues today, which rules out a role for Mengele, the researchers say.

Had Mengele injected mothers with something to alter their pregnancies, the twin rate should have dropped off when his supposed work stopped.

"Even if Mengele had ovulation induction drugs available, they would have had an effect only on the immediate recipients for one generation," said Gary Steinman, a twinning expert at Long Island Jewish Medical Center.
"It was not even known to anyone what the genetic code was at that time, let alone the ability to alter genes, which would have been necessary to carry over the twinning trait to future generations."

Steinman was not part of the Brazilian team's initial research, but he's now helping them search for genetic clues to the phenomenon.

If Not Mengele, Who?

One clue in the baptismal records may hold the real key to Cândido Godói's twins.

The greatest incidence of twinning, by far, is in the Linha São Pedro district, some 6 miles (10 kilometers) from the town center, the researchers found.

The neighborhood was settled in the early 20th century by just eight families. Today Linha São Pedro's 80 households are home to 44 pairs of twins.

The community's isolation and small size suggests an evolutionary origin for Linha São Pedro's outsize twin population. If a small group settles a region and the settlement remains isolated for generations, the original settlers' biological quirks tend to be passed down as the same families intermarry over and over—scientists call it the founder effect.

"By chance, one or two members of these families that started Linha São Pedro could have a genetic of predisposition to have twin births," Schuler-Faccini speculated.

Scientists aren't sure exactly which gene or genes are responsible for human twinning, but twin hot spots like Cândido Godói give researchers a chance to search for repeated clues in twin DNA.

Steinman, of Long Island Jewish Medical Center, suspects a role for a growth hormone-produced protein called IGF, which he's previously linked to twinning in both cows and humans. He hopes to discover whether Cândido Godói twins have high levels of IGF and, if so, whether there's a gene mutation responsible for high concentrations of the supposed twin-producing hormone.

Whatever the causes, the town's profusion of fraternal twins isn't even especially rare, said twinning expert Bruno Reversade, of the Institute of Medical Biology in Singapore, who is not involved in the Cândido Godói research.

"There are in Nigeria and Romania isolated villages like this one, but they have not gotten [or] sought publicity," said Reversade, who called the Mengele hypothesis "preposterous."

"I concur with the authors' conclusions that it may be a founder effect," he added.

Twins Spurred by Something in the Air?

Another theory suggests that environmental factors may be at least partly responsible for Cândido Godói's profusion of twins.

Locals have long suspected that something—perhaps a pesticide—in the town's water, food, or air may be boosting the twin birth rate, according to the Nazi Mystery documentary.

"We know that twinning can be related to environmental conditions," study leader Schuler-Faccini told National Geographic News. "For example, some studies suggest that women who [consume] more milk and dairy products are more predisposed to have twins."

One explanation doesn't preclude the other, she said. Cândido Godói's twins may be born of some combination of genetics and environmental factors.

But Camarasa, the historian, still believes Mengele may have played some role.

"There is still no convincing scientific explanation of the phenomenon," he said. "There are only hypotheses, and mine is one of them.

"I think that Mengele's life in exile still holds many secrets."