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forkbeard
Saturday, February 21st, 2009, 10:35 AM
[Note: This discussion was split from the theme here:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=112105

~ Siebenbürgerin]

I believe pure Germanics to be an inherently perfect people. Imperfection is about impurity.
Swedes are probably the purest Germanics and I remember a time when crime was pretty much unheard of there. Women could ware mini skirts and be totally unmolested.
If all human behaviour is genetically determined, with the genetically related and "like" displaying altuistic behaviour to their own kind. Then all innapropriate, criminal behaviour is purely the product of contamination/ or insanity.
Once a people is purified crime should disappear.
Its the same as how foreigners do well in business. Since they are alien, scruples can be discarded. For example locally, chemical waste was being dumped into the watershed by Polish lorry drivers ( I don't think they would have done this in Poland). l don't think our locals would not have done this because the contamination would have ultimately have reached them.
Likewise my grandfather bankrupted himself by kindness because he just tended to give his produce away to his own kind rather than aim for a profit. A foreigner would have no such altruism and would thus become rich.

Siebenbürgerin
Saturday, February 21st, 2009, 11:26 AM
I believe pure Germanics to be an inherently perfect people. Imperfection is about impurity.
Swedes are probably the purest Germanics and I remember a time when crime was pretty much unheard of there. Women could ware mini skirts and be totally unmolested.
If all human behaviour is genetically determined, with the genetically related and "like" displaying altuistic behaviour to their own kind. Then all innapropriate, criminal behaviour is purely the product of contamination/ or insanity.
Once a people is purified crime should disappear.
Its the same as how foreigners do well in business. Since they are alien, scruples can be discarded. For example locally, chemical waste was being dumped into the watershed by Polish lorry drivers ( I don't think they would have done this in Poland). l don't think our locals would not have done this because the contamination would have ultimately have reached them.
Likewise my grandfather bankrupted himself by kindness because he just tended to give his produce away to his own kind rather than aim for a profit. A foreigner would have no such altruism and would thus become rich.
The old Germanic socieities which weren't full of foreigners had harsh punishments for sexual crimes like paedophilia and homosexuality. What does that say? That Germanic criminals existed. If this altruism for own kind always existed and was genetically determined, then Germanics wouldn't have shown a big degree of tolerance towards foreign elements in their societies. They wouldn't ever have allowed them in. We must remember we weren't conquered by the immigrants. We opened the "gates" for them. Behaviour is genetically determined in part, but Germanics are not immune to mental or genetic illnesses. There are even some illnesses which are encountered only in Germanics and not in non-Europeans for example.

forkbeard
Saturday, February 21st, 2009, 11:46 AM
Foreigners were only just recently allowed into Northern Europe during the historical period.
Germany however suffered problems ever after Charlemagne created the Holy Roman Empire as this allowed African blood (North African Haplotypes) to enter central Europe via Italy. Maybe this is why Germany never had an Empire and was always tearing its own flesh.
Germania at the time of Tacitus was a virtuous place. Why did they not want to be Roman? They could have had sewers, roads, chariots, markets, exotic goods, slaves and food, great architechture, foreign travel etc.
Obviously something Roman inherently grated on the Germanic character so much that it was worth fighting for. Maybe they just hated the idea of tolerating homosexuals, inferior peoples, prostitution, child brothels, foreign troops, luxury goods, decadence and weakness that were part and parcel of Roman civilisation.
Yet medieval German art always is filled with images of whores, beggars and massacre of innocents. Totally unlike England and Scandinavia.
It was only recently that horrible crimes started to happen in England. This was entirely due to foreign influences. (e.g The Moors murders being influenced by semitic pornography.
Some people just don't want it known that Brothels used to not exist (except in Ports.) Or that child kidnap was never heard of. Or that the murder rate was only about four people per year.

Siebenbürgerin
Saturday, February 21st, 2009, 12:11 PM
Foreigners were only just recently allowed into Northern Europe during the historical period.
And yet Germanic and Northern laws against crime date long before that. Hmm...


Germany however suffered problems ever after Charlemagne created the Holy Roman Empire as this allowed African blood (North African Haplotypes) to enter central Europe via Italy. Maybe this is why Germany never had an Empire and was always tearing its own flesh.
Germany never had an Empire? Hmm, I think you should check history a little bit before saying things like these. ;)


Germania at the time of Tacitus was a virtuous place. Why did they not want to be Roman? They could have had sewers, roads, chariots, markets, exotic goods, slaves and food, great architechture, foreign travel etc.
Obviously something Roman inherently grated on the Germanic character so much that it was worth fighting for. Maybe they just hated the idea of tolerating homosexuals, inferior peoples, prostitution, child brothels, foreign troops, luxury goods, decadence and weakness that were part and parcel of Roman civilisation.
Germanics in the era Tacitus describes did hold slaves. If you read Tacitus you'll see he talks about their slaves.


Yet medieval German art always is filled with images of whores, beggars and massacre of innocents. Totally unlike England and Scandinavia.
It was only recently that horrible crimes started to happen in England. This was entirely due to foreign influences. (e.g The Moors murders being influenced by semitic pornography.
Some people just don't want it known that Brothels used to not exist (except in Ports.) Or that child kidnap was never heard of. Or that the murder rate was only about four people per year.
And why were diseases like syphilis existing in England centuries ago? Shakespeare himself is said to have died of it. In Elizabethan age, in London, there was a red-light district. "Unheard of" is not how I'd call it. Whores and beggars existed in all societies, whether we like it or not.

Common Women: Prostitution and Sexuality in Medieval England
http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=96562576

Idealism is good to a degree only. There are criminals among Germanics too and we mustn't ignore this. Every people's criminals must be treated as they deserve. Their nationality and genetics doesn't save them.

Jäger
Saturday, February 21st, 2009, 02:19 PM
Anyone who declares anything as perfect is taking away room for improvement, this at least contradicts our current understanding of the universe.

Eoppoyz
Saturday, February 21st, 2009, 03:24 PM
No one is perfect. Not even the Germanics.

Andrew man
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 07:35 AM
I believe that Germanics are superior to other cultures in some ways and not. Yet somewhere out in the universe must exist a master race, that is above the Germanic people. A "God" race.

Koenigsberg
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 08:04 AM
I believe that Germanics are superior to other cultures in some ways and not. Yet somewhere out in the universe must exist a master race, that is above the Germanic people. A "God" race.

Or we could just say that the Aryan master race has been dispersed across the globe, with Germanics generally having the highest admixture of these genes.

:D

şeudiskaz
Thursday, July 16th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Maybe this is why Germany never had an Empire and was always tearing its own flesh.

Germany never had a truly cohesive single government until the establishment of the German Empire in 1871. This wasn't because of foreign influence, in fact, I would argue that the lack of true German Imperialism was due to a lack of foreign influence. The Germanic clans that the Romans found were led by cheiftans who did not weild absolute authority. The Romans, after attempting conquest by the sword, which the militarily superior Germans withstood attempted to "convert" the Germanic tribes by inviting the sons of chieftans to Rome, to learn after the Roman fashion. More than one boy returned, and became chieftan of his tribe, and tried to weild totalitarian authority, but such a leader was often deposed. Germans are an autonomous people. In our native state we should not need Empires, because the local clan can look after itself. In fact, pre-contact German tribes had achieved a level of enlightenment that America (the land of the Free) did not even begin working on until the 1920's, that is to say male-female equality in society.

Nachtengel
Thursday, July 16th, 2009, 02:38 PM
Germanics are not a perfect people, and probably will never be, because perfection exists only theoretically. However, we are a superior people, the one who has prospered more than others.

şeudiskaz
Thursday, July 16th, 2009, 02:45 PM
we are a superior people, the one who has prospered more than others.

:thumbup

You're hard to disagree with. :D

rainman
Thursday, July 16th, 2009, 11:08 PM
Nothing even close to ideal currently exists. Exept maybe in Japan. An ideal race (society) would have as its goal self improvement and place standards on its people. It would strive for higher ideals. All nations of the world and the vast majority of those people within them do not try to improve themselves. They fight for tolerance and acceptance of who people are rather than trying to better people. They sink lower and lower every year rather than rising up etc.

Conceptionally a race of God-men are simply people who are in control of themselves and in control of their environment and who are well educated and physically capable. This contrasts with the animal like nature of most people today who are ruled by primitive instincts and self desturctive/socially destructive impulses.

KarlStandish
Thursday, February 23rd, 2012, 04:04 PM
I think, that the more warlike a people are, the better quality genes they possess. Maybe due to the fact, that unorderly and 'bad genes' people simply die off due to wars and highest quality people impregnate the most women.
Germanics have been quite warlike and thus their better genes have survived.
Plus, Germanic Countries faced the most competition in the race for development. Europe, a crossroads for a multitude of ethnicities and peoples, always clashing and improving.
Unlike China or India who were mostly peaceful farmers enslaved by different conquerors.
For the Persians and Arabs, Islam is the reason for their downfall.
I recently read an article, where a US Army General(?) outlines the major factors, why Arabs lose wars.
Blacks, are a different story altogether.
Chasing deer and running from lions kept them busy enough from other 'petty' tasks such as inventing or improving things.

renownedwolf
Thursday, February 23rd, 2012, 04:55 PM
The idea that warfare promotes a better genepool is a false one. Perhaps in ancient times this was more evident, but the invention of gunpowder put pay to that! Modern warfare has destroyed alot of our very best and we are paying the price. Look a WW2.

You could be the finest specimen of a Germanic warrior but a few rogue bullets, cluster bombs or 12 yr old Mustafah's IED could destroy that in an instant.

The notion that Germanic's are inherently superior I agree with, but not perfect, if that were so we would not be in the situation we are now.

Very few of us are warlike now, I could grab a knife and walk out into the street right now and attack a 15 yr old Celtic boy and he would cower and his friends would run and leave him. If I did that a two thousand years back I would probably be risking my life greatly. They live their warrior fantasies through playing Skyrim and the closest thing to a hunt is popping to the nearest takeaway.

Civilisation IMO has a tendency to soften people too much, if we still promoted a warrior culture we would see a bit more discipline and respect for brotherhood and the blood that binds us. This I believe is still in us under the surface and like anything it needs nurture to bring it to the fore.

KarlStandish
Thursday, February 23rd, 2012, 05:13 PM
Germanics became a better breed of people in the Renaissance period, imho.

Tom Schnadelbach
Thursday, February 23rd, 2012, 05:47 PM
Civilisation IMO has a tendency to soften people too much, if we still promoted a warrior culture we would see a bit more discipline and respect for brotherhood and the blood that binds us. This I believe is still in us under the surface and like anything it needs nurture to bring it to the fore.
That's why I'm in favour of mandatory military service for every male citizen. Like in Switzerland. I wouldn't mind mandatory service for females also, like the BDM.