View Full Version : Prof Richard Dawkins Drives Support for London's First Atheist Bus Advert

Saturday, November 8th, 2008, 10:27 AM
By Martin Beckford, Religious Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 3:38PM BST 21 Oct 2008

Campaigners believe the messages will provide a "reassuring" antidote to religious adverts that "threaten eternal damnation" to passengers.

The routes on which the atheist buses could be placed have not yet been fixed, but they would travel through the central London borough of Westminster and so could pass close to Westminster Abbey, a Christian place of worship for more than 1,000 years.

Prof Dawkins, Oxford University's Professor of the Public Understanding of Science, said: "Religion is accustomed to getting a free ride automatic tax breaks, unearned 'respect' and the right not to be 'offended', the right to brainwash children. Even on the buses, nobody thinks twice when they see a religious slogan plastered across the side.

"This campaign to put alternative slogans on London buses will make people think and thinking is anathema to religion."

The campaign, which could be plastered across as many as 60 buses for a month if just 11,000 is raised, was triggered by a blog posting. It floundered over the summer because of a shortage of donations but has been boosted by the financial support of Prof Dawkins, the author of The God Delusion and a vocal critic of the power of religion over public life.

The renowned evolutionary biologist has agreed to match all donations up to a maximum of 5,500 the amount needed for adverts on one set of buses. This means the campaigners will only need to gain 2,750 from supporters for the project to succeed.

Those behind the project are now confident they will raise enough money to pay for two sets of 30 bendy buses to travel through the capital in January bearing the atheist slogan: "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

When the adverts were first proposed in June, 877 people pledged that they would give 5 to the cause.

The British Humanist Association has also agreed to handle the donations and pay the money to CBS Outdoor, the advertising company that puts adverts on buses.

Hanne Stinson, the organisation's chief executive, said: "We see so many posters advertising salvation through Jesus or threatening us with eternal damnation, that I feel sure that a bus advert like this will be welcomed as a breath of fresh air. If it raises a smile as well as making people think, so much the better."

Ariane Sherine, a comedy writer, began the campaign after writing a blog article about Christian adverts on buses. She suggested that atheists should pay for a "reassuring counter-advert" after discovering that the religious adverts promoted a website which warns non-Christians that they will burn in Hell for eternity.

She said: "I'm very pleased so many people are behind the atheist bus."

Supporters of the campaign can donate to it at the website http://www.justgiving.com/atheistbus

I think he meant well but he's a bit out of the track!:D

Saturday, November 8th, 2008, 12:46 PM
He is pretty arrogant, I dont really like him;) But its good they get some other adverts than just christian jibber jabber.

Hamar Fox
Saturday, November 8th, 2008, 01:07 PM
Fairly pointless, but considering the vast majority of theists in London are non-English, it would be fun to upset them.

Hauke Haien
Saturday, November 8th, 2008, 01:35 PM
Dawkin's crusade is a reaction to attempts to reintroduce Christian belief into science and because of this he is mostly concerned about whether religion is "true" and whether scientific observations point to the existence of a god. What he does not understand and openly scorns is the idea that religion and spirituality can beneficially serve purposes other than truth. He talks about this in this lecture:


Sunday, May 30th, 2010, 06:26 PM
Dawkins would. It's totally fair obviously but its just a stupid thing. Religion shouldn't be advertised.

Sunday, May 30th, 2010, 06:48 PM
As Mencken said, Dawkins is "one who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." Deep down he knows that there is no logical argument that can refute the Christian faith.

Sunday, May 30th, 2010, 07:24 PM
Deep down he knows that there is no logical argument that can refute the Christian faith.

This is because it is often impossible to prove a negative, and I could just as easily claim ...

Deep down, Gardisten knows that there is no logical argument that can justify the Christian faith.

Monday, May 31st, 2010, 01:46 AM
Deep down, Gardisten knows that there is no logical argument that can justify the Christian faith.

Well, not really, since the Christian faith is irrefutable, it would be a fallacy to state that deep down somebody knows that it can't be justified. Any argument that you attempt to prove that it is not irrefutable is false because you've--like Dawkins--have never studied the Scriptures to the point where you reach the only logical conclusion: that they Christian faith is irrefutable, or "justified", if you will.