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Marcus
Sunday, November 2nd, 2008, 10:54 AM
Ive noticed that some japanese have similar facial hair growth to that europeans have. Is this due to intermixing with Ainu in the past or is it a trait from other Jomon people?

Agrippa
Sunday, November 2nd, 2008, 09:59 PM
Ive noticed that some japanese have similar facial hair growth to that europeans have. Is this due to intermixing with Ainu in the past or is it a trait from other Jomon people?

If can be attributed to the most part to Ainuid influences in the Japanese populations. The Ainuid variants themselves vary from Australiform, to rather Protomongoloid to even Europiform variants, with the latter being mostly responsible for very Europid looking Japanese, which exist.

Marcus
Sunday, November 2nd, 2008, 10:09 PM
If can be attributed to the most part to Ainuid influences in the Japanese populations. The Ainuid variants themselves vary from Australiform, to rather Protomongoloid to even Europiform variants, with the latter being mostly responsible for very Europid looking Japanese, which exist.

Interesting, how about the other people that inhabited Japan during the Jomon period (thos who got mixed with the yayoi immigrants), Ive seen reconstructed pics on them and it has a more europiform look with facial hair while the skulls from the Edo period and to the present is pred. mongoloid (sinoid?)

This:
http://i38.tinypic.com/2vi1ox4.jpg

Agrippa
Sunday, November 2nd, 2008, 10:38 PM
Interesting, how about the other people that inhabited Japan during the Jomon period (thos who got mixed with the yayoi immigrants), Ive seen reconstructed pics on them and it has a more europiform look with facial hair while the skulls from the Edo period and to the present is pred. mongoloid (sinoid?)

This:
http://i38.tinypic.com/2vi1ox4.jpg

Can you translate the texts?

Well, there came different waves of people to the islands of Japan.

First there were the Ainuids and related Protomongoloid variants.

Later came from the North and West Tungid and Sinid groups, those brought the Korean and Japanese languages to the region, they might have been related to the Mongols which are the Tungid core group.

From the South came Palaemongolid groups, related to the Taiwanese, they also settled in the South of Korea.

Those are the primary groups and in historical times Chinese and Korean people, mostly of Nordsinid type, came to Japan and influenced not just the culture, but also the racial spectrum, especially of the upper class.

The so called Yakonid or Jakunin-type is a recombination of Sinid, Europiform Ainuid and/or progressive Palaemongolid traits. This variant is very typical for Japan and its upper class in particularly, characteristically they have close set eyes and a strong, konvex nasal shape, their general body type is very leptomorphic.

Talking about the images, the first is Ainuid, the fifth is clearly Sinid, the others are somewhat between those two (Ainuid and Neomongolid) extremes I guess.

huntsman
Wednesday, June 30th, 2010, 06:11 PM
It has also been speculated that the Europoid Japanese were strongly represented in the samurai class, based on period depictions.