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Francis_Benson
Monday, August 5th, 2002, 05:39 AM
Thunder Mountain (http://www.hrafnar.org/norse/utgard.html)

Whenever I come across interesting sites I try to share them. Here (http://www.viking-z.org/vikg.htm) is one and here (http://www.viking-z.org/vikgpr.htm) is another

A good site for Anglo-Saxon heathens:

http://www.ealdriht.org/

Allenson
Thursday, November 20th, 2003, 01:29 AM
A good site for Anglo-Saxon heathens:

http://www.ealdriht.org/



This is a nice site as well for us keepers of the Old Ways:

http://www.englishheathenism.homestead.com/heathenheritage.html

Kveldulf
Thursday, November 20th, 2003, 09:57 PM
-------------->Dansk udgave-Asatru groups

┬rhus Blˇtlaug

www.aarhus-blotlaug.dk (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aarh us-blotlaug.dk)


Blotgruppen Limgrim: (Vestlige del af Limfjorden fra L°gstrup til Viborg)

www.marlab.dk/limgrim (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marl ab.dk%2Flimgrim)


GROA Blˇtlaug (holder til i NŠstved, men dŠkker SjŠlland med °er )

WWW.GROA.DK (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2FWWW.GROA .DK)


Harreskovens Blˇtgilde: (K°benhavn og omegn)

www.blotgilde.dk/harreskov (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blot gilde.dk%2Fharreskov)


HolmgŠngerne: (holder til i K°benhavn og omegn, men er ikke begrŠnset af geandrafi)

www.holmgaengerne.dk (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.holm gaengerne.dk)


Solbjerg Blˇtlaug (K°benhavn og omegn)

www.solbjerg.blotlaug.dk (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.solb jerg.blotlaug.dk)

There are many other groups, but I'm not posting any details, since they don't have a website. These would suffice to give you a first impression I think.

Gesta Bellica
Friday, November 28th, 2003, 07:29 PM
For all the people here interested in the Nordic culture and history, i have found this cool website: http://www.northvegr.org/
U will find a lot of stuff like Scandinavian Saga and old Germanic documents, etc..
Maybe i am just discovering what a lot of people here already know but i think it was worth mentioning as it's a really well done website.

ciao

Frans_Jozef
Sunday, December 21st, 2003, 09:16 PM
http://www.thorshof.org/thor.htm

http://www.wcer.org/members/europe/Belgium/congress.htm

http://www.geocities.com/ingwibergo/

Buchverlag der Traditionen und Kulturen


http://www.arun-verlag.de/

Zuid-Vlaming
Saturday, September 4th, 2004, 10:05 AM
The AHF ? (Allgermanische Heidnische Front)

www.heathenfront.org (http://www.heathenfront.org)


[edit: Yet they don't call themselves "Asatruar" but Odalists.]

Siegfried
Thursday, September 9th, 2004, 07:49 PM
You may also want to check out the Asatru Folk Assembly (http://www.runestone.org/flash/home.html). :)

brianh
Saturday, October 9th, 2004, 04:13 PM
Join and help our community grow!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LivingOdinism/

:hve­rungur:
Sunday, December 5th, 2004, 04:52 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/Ravenfjord/OdinLives.jpg

http://www.odinlives.org/index.html

Great radio for Germanic folk music and talks on asatru and germanic/norse lore by many authors and speakers. You can download shows from the archives. The guy who does odin lives was even nice enough to mention the forum my and my friend IrishJay run at http://www.odinist.com/forum on his show once. If you love to listen to germanic folk music along with listening to talks on heathenism/asatru and the lore of the gods of our blood and ancestors check our odin lives radio.

Here are a few shows to download here, for the rest visit the archives at http://www.odinlives.org

# Download Show October 2004
http://www.odinlives.org/archives/OdinLivesShow26.mp3


# Download Show November 2004 Steve McNallen: AFA
http://www.odinlives.org/archives/OdinLivesShow27.mp3


# Download Show November 2004 Joy - The Overlooked Virtue
http://www.odinlives.org/archives/OdinLivesShow28.mp3


Like I said, there are many more in their acrhives: http://www.odinlives.org/archives.php
My personal favorites are shows 25 and 26 with Stephen McNallen of the AFA speaks of "Calasa" If you want to know what Calasa is, id sugest you download the shows and give them a listen ;)


Enjoy folk :)

Mac Seafraidh
Sunday, February 20th, 2005, 03:23 AM
http://prodtn.cafepress.com/0/17179810_F_tn.jpg


http://prodtn.cafepress.com/0/17179810_F_tn.jpg (http://prodtn.cafepress.com/0/17179810_F_tn.jpg)



http://www.angelfire.com/on/Wodensharrow/asatro.html (http://www.angelfire.com/on/Wodensharrow/asatro.html)

firescarredmartyr
Tuesday, March 22nd, 2005, 06:34 AM
There was a group called Asatruars Against Assimilation, yet I don't know if they are in service any longer. There are also the following:
Heathens Against Universalism (http://www.geocities.com/heatens/HaU.htm)
Pagan Identity (http://www.paganidentitymovement.cjb.net/)

Š■eling
Friday, August 26th, 2005, 07:43 PM
The Odinic Rite is for folkist Asatru:

http://www.odinic-rite.org/index2.html

This forum below I use. It is also for folkists, but no poilitical discussion. It is purely for northern Europeans to honour the gods.

http://www.odinist.com/othala/

Sigurd
Thursday, October 13th, 2005, 05:35 PM
The Odinic Rite is for folkist Asatru:

http://www.odinic-rite.org/index2.html

This forum below I use. It is also for folkists, but no poilitical discussion. It is purely for northern Europeans to honour the gods.

http://www.odinist.com/othala/

I agree. Odinic Rite is very good. It is for folkish people.

The same applies to www.odinist.com/othala (http://www.odinist.com/othala) , very good forum (actually moderating there :) ), just, well, as Engledrihten emphasized no political discussion (we decided that due to the different political perspectives of heathens, that we should not have political discussion). If you want to politically discuss anything, when member there, sending me a PM is usually a way of political discussions; but anything overly political will... well... be under heavy fire immediately.
Other good forum, with limited but allowed political discussion is www.blutundboden.com/forum (http://www.blutundboden.com/forum)


Does anyone know real Asatru organization, not the "politcorrect" and "tolerant" slum?

I actually don't know any major ones that one would immediately consider, obviously you shouldn't look out for "Heathens agains Racism", they have a very left-wing approach...as the name says...

Siegmund
Tuesday, October 25th, 2005, 01:01 AM
The lowbrow posts related to heathenism were moved to Heathenish Frustrations (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=41647), while the Holo-controversy discussion was moved to Holopinions (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=41648), both in Free Speech.

Please keep your posts in this forum on topic. Thanks.

Sigurd
Monday, November 21st, 2005, 11:49 PM
Update: Our forum is now back up, so feel free to come and see what we are about at http://www.heathenfront.org/forum

Post links of special interest regarding Heathenry here.

Starting off:

The Odinist Fellowship (http://www.odinistfellowship.co.uk/) (UK)

Anglo-Saxon Heathenism (http://www.englishheathenism.homestead.com/introduction.html)

The Odinic Rite (http://www.odinic-rite.org/)

Allgermanische Heidnische Front (http://www.heathenfront.org/)
Odinist Community (http://www.odinist.com)

Since the OR's been posted...

The Asatru Alliance (www.asatru.org) - Folkish Heathen Org in Vinland.

Wayfarer
Thursday, November 24th, 2005, 11:40 PM
Asatru-U develops and publishes Asatru (Germanic Heathen) courses for different kinds of students; for different levels of rigor and abstraction; and for directed and independent study. We operate loosely under the umbrella of the Reeves Hall of the Frigga's Web Association. Our discussion archives and drafts are on Yahoo! Groups.

http://www.asatru-u.org/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Asatru-U/

Frans_Jozef
Sunday, December 11th, 2005, 04:38 PM
Miercinga RÝce is a group dedicated to the study, revival, and practice of the pre-Christian religion of the Angles of the kingdom of Mercia (one of the seven kingdoms of the Anglo-Saxon Heptarchy),and Anglo-Saxon Heathenry in general. The Angles were among the Germanic tribes which migrated from Continental Europe to Great Britain in the fourth and fifth centuries. Their religion was related to that of the Scandinavians of the Viking Age as well as that of other ancient Germanic peoples. The beliefs of the Miercinga RÝce are therefore related to the modern religious movement known as ┴satr˙, a revival of the ancient Scandinavian pagan religion. The beliefs of the Miercinga RÝce are also a form of ŮÚodisc GelÚafa (Theodisc Geleafa or Theodish Belief as some call it); the "belief of the tribe."

http://www.ealdriht.org/

bhoostal
Thursday, February 9th, 2006, 05:22 PM
Hailsa all!

The Heathen organization, Irminenschaft, is growing and we'd like you to be part of it.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Irminenschaft/

and

http://www.irminenschaft.net

Brian

Utgard-Loki
Tuesday, February 14th, 2006, 11:04 PM
Stilkams Old Website Asatru-Online is back, now under
http://www.alte-sitte.de/

This Site is a "Must see" for all Asatru/Pagan Followers who can read
German Language .
It contains exelent Writings regarding German Pagan Culture, the
Translation of Metagentics, a Childsektion , a German Songbook...
and one if not the best online Rune Guide ever.
The Site was online since 1994 and is one of the oldest online sources
on the Subject.

And best of all Stilkam is a proud German.

Hail

Utgard - Loki

-------------------

Thor:
"hold your Mouth,
you mean Dwarf ,
my Powerhammer shall close your Mouth !"

The Edda, Lokis Hatred Speech .

Sigurd
Tuesday, April 18th, 2006, 07:53 PM
I thought it might be useful for visitors of the board to have a comprehensive list of sites and books that are recommended for Folkish Asatruar (plus a few non-Folkish sites with valuable information but which have to be handled with care.)

Feel free to add any that you know in a post of yourself.

Sites of Organisations:
The Odinic Rite (http://www.odinic-rite.org)
The Asatru Alliance (http://www.asatru.org)
Asatru Folk Assembly (http://www.runestone.org)
Irminen-Gesellschaft (http://www.irminenschaft.net)
Comunita Odinista (http://www.comunitaodinista.org/) (Lombard Odinic org)
Islenska Asatrufelagid (http://www.asatru.is)

Sites of valuable information:
The Norroena Society (http://www.norroena.org)
Anglo-Saxon Heathenism (http://www.englishheathenism.homestead.com/)
Northvegr Foundation (http://www.northvegr.org) (valuable information, but it is doubtful whether you can trust the people running it, as the Logretta v Northvegr case shows)
Thor's Hof (http://www.thorshof.org) (some good articles, but be careful, the leaders are Unis!)
Odinic Rite Guardians (http://www.odinic-rite.org/guardians/) (A site by the OR dedicated to natural preservation)
Odinism - What Is It? (http://www.paganlibrary.com/reference/odinism.php) (an article from the OR published in 1980; also available in printed form through the Odinic Rite site)
The Odinist Library (http://www.geocities.com/odinistlibrary/)

Magazines of interest for Folk Building, Asatru, etc.
Sigrdrifa Publications (http://www.sigrdrifa.net)
Vor Tru magazine (http://asatru.org/vortru.html)

Books of interest:
"Book of Blotar - The Authentic Rituals of the Odinic Rite" by the Odinic Rite. (Available over the OR website)
"Odinism in the Modern World" by Wulfstan OR (Available through the Odinic Rite)
"Odinic Mythology Pts. I & II" by the Circle of Ostara (Available through the Odinic Rite)
"Germanic Heathenry" by James Hjuka Coulter (Available through the Irminen-Gesellschaft and Amazon)
"The Nature of Asatru" by Mark Puryear (Available through the Norroena Society and Barnes & Noble)
"We are our deeds" by Eric Wodening (Available through the Asatru Alliance)
"Asatru - The Hidden Fortress" by Edred Wodansson (Available through Wodanesdag (www.odin.org))
"Interview with a Gothi - Heimgest DCG speaks" (Available through the Odinic Rite website)

Other internet communities of interest:
The Odinist Forums (www.odinist.net)
Nordfolk Forums (www.nordfolk.net)
The Althing (www.thealthing.com)
Tr˙ Folk (www.trufolk.net)
Irminenschaft Yahoo Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Irminenschaft/)

nordicdusk
Tuesday, April 18th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Thank you for these.

Sigrid
Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 01:21 PM
A pagan traditionalist magazine for the radical type is Tyr.

Caveat! as this has been described in reviews as an anti-materialist, anti-technology, anti-modern publication. I cannot afford Tyr :~( so I can't comment, but I am dead set against anti-scientific and anti-technology folk as they are often cranks and will never be able to effect the kind of pagan revival necessary for a quantum leap from Christianity to the future.

Readers may also be interested in the ideology of Alain de Benoist of the French new right. He wrote "On being a Pagan" (now translated).

In the mean time you will find these and some other intriguing stuff in the AFA's online shop. Especially the book about the warrior heritage of Odin and the book on The secretive Odin Brotherhood. View these and more here. (http://www.runestone.org/flash/store/index.htm)

┴sa
Wednesday, April 19th, 2006, 01:45 PM
Your more than welcome to add Trufolk.net to that list.

Small website my friends and I put together. It includes a Heathen Blogging Community, Forums, and a Shop that is soon to come. If you join the forum we have tons of books put on .pdfs for downloading.

Frans_Jozef
Tuesday, April 25th, 2006, 03:01 PM
A site for those who walks the path of the Norse Warrior:

http://winterscapes.com/einherjar/

klokkwerx
Friday, April 28th, 2006, 07:19 PM
Lets not forget about these groups/address even if you like it or not.



CREED OR IRON GROUP
HALLS OF WOTAN / WOTANSVOLK

Links removed as they have naught to do with our faith.


SKADI ONLINE FORUM Germanic Online community
http://forum.skadi.net/index.php

Sigurd
Friday, April 28th, 2006, 09:17 PM
I did link to Skadi.

But, about the others: No, no and no. I will not include ideals by people who claim that the Valfather's name stands for "Will of the Aryan Nation". Besides he has collaborated with David Lane, one of the vilest of those who have defiled our faith by infusing their 1488 ideals into it. Finally, "Creed of Iron" and the general concept of Wotanism did heavily plagiarise those parts that are for once usable and good, oft word by word, from the "Book of Blotar"; and since I am both an aspiring lawyer and a person who thinks that stealing is a disgusting act of dishonesty, I will not advocate outright theft.

This is not meant as a personal offence, but this forum does, despite allowing political discussion, not advocate the posting of outright White Power links; BuB is a forum for Heathens; if you won't accept the apoliticality of our faith and instead wish to infuse David Lane's ideals, then that is your own choice as a free person - but please do not lead other people down that road, especially not here at BuB, it's not a political board.

So this should maybe give an insight into why I deleted your links. If people are still willing to go down that road, let them google these sites, or tell them via PM. But you will simply not link to them in public, fine?

Sorry if this sounded a little ranty, but it is necessary for the sake of all the good folk who want to learn about the real facettes of our Folkway.

Sigurd
Friday, April 28th, 2006, 09:23 PM
Your more than welcome to add Trufolk.net to that list.

OK, fine. I did know about its existence (and am registered there), but just didn't know whether I should link to it, since it is aiming at being a close-knit community. But, well, if you think it is alright, then I will surely link to it. :)

klokkwerx
Friday, April 28th, 2006, 10:41 PM
Sigurd,

I knew this would happen, that some-one would delete these links.

These groups (links to) have allot to do with our faith, its just some-one elses opinion that they dont. Also, if you actully looked at those links then you can learn something new.

Folkishness is what I put emphasis on, not politics, but unfortunately others use politics as a means to do all kinds of stuff, and it is unavoidable, including those who say they are not political!

So, you can put those links back up and give other Folk the right to decide for themselves of whats good and not. Just the act of censoring these links is playing politics and showing fear.

klokkwerx
Friday, April 28th, 2006, 10:46 PM
I did link to Skadi.

But, about the others: No, no and no. I will not include ideals by people who claim that the Valfather's name stands for "Will of the Aryan Nation". Besides he has collaborated with David Lane, one of the vilest of those who have defiled our faith by infusing their 1488 ideals into it. Finally, "Creed of Iron" and the general concept of Wotanism did heavily plagiarise those parts that are for once usable and good, oft word by word, from the "Book of Blotar"; and since I am both an aspiring lawyer and a person who thinks that stealing is a disgusting act of dishonesty, I will not advocate outright theft.

Amazing, have you even heard from the other side of the story (the person accused: McVan), or are you on the band-wagon with the others in Odinist.com? It shows ignorance to make judgement without investigation and conclusion.

┴sa
Friday, April 28th, 2006, 11:58 PM
OK, fine. I did know about its existence (and am registered there), but just didn't know whether I should link to it, since it is aiming at being a close-knit community. But, well, if you think it is alright, then I will surely link to it. :)

Well yeah the forum is but everything else is way open to everyone. Plus were opening a shop soon and are going to be selling patches and t-shirts. I totally forgot about you knowing :doh

Sigrid
Saturday, April 29th, 2006, 02:11 PM
I'm going to support Sigurd in this argument about people who have given, and continue to give, Odinism a bad name. He is quite right and Odinist.com is not "on a bandwagon". They are Odinists. Crime, anti-Semitism, racism, Nazism and all the other things associated with certain groups of people who have other agendas are not part of the Germanic faith of Asatru/Odinism. They are part of a political agenda that uses Heathen spirituality to further their ends and sweeten their otherwise often distasteful pie.

Before anyone attacks anyone else as "brainwashed" or "misguided" they must realise that this is not the case in Sigurd's rejection of these groups. I rejected them from the moment I discovered what they were about and the discovery was a shock to me. I was massively disappointed that this had happened and from what I learned a whole can of worms was opened that I never knew existed. In fact I have a strong feeling that this has already done so much damage to us that getting it out of people's minds and out of the habitual press references now may be virtually impossible. It's a tragedy. Why did they have to pick us? They ally Hitler and the Nazis with Heathenism. Unfortunately. As they were not Heathens. Nazi Germany's slogan was "Gott mit uns". And as everyone knows, Gott wasn't with them and neither was Wotan, they lost the war, they created an obsession with racism that demonised the Germans seemingly forever, roped in the Scandinavians just because Hitler had the hots for Vikings and now we are, to be quite frank, knee deep in **** and having difficulty getting out of it. We don't need to make things worse by supporting thieves and murderers and social misfits or their Christian Identity cohorts.

But if you allow yourself to settle down in Heathenism and realise that being white or Germanic doesn't have to include anything at all except being white and Germanic then maybe we have a chance. If not we may be screwed.

klokkwerx
Saturday, April 29th, 2006, 06:29 PM
If you look at the sites I tried to post, they have nothing to do with Naziism, only those who dont read what its about presume its Nazi. Wotansvolk and Folk like that are those who care to preserve their Folk. They all come from different backgrounds and all have differing views on faith and politics. Also, other non-Wotansvolk think that McVan is still opperating this along with Katja, that is not the case. The Folk who run this is who ever steps upto the plate and leads it in a sound and realistic direction.

Those who jump on the band wagon judging McVan on the so-called theft of the Hammer rite publication, well I havent heard from his side of the story. That issue is obviously one-sided story, till then, you would be unwise to make any judgements.

Sigurd
Saturday, April 29th, 2006, 09:54 PM
Amazing, have you even heard from the other side of the story (the person accused: McVan), or are you on the band-wagon with the others in Odinist.com? It shows ignorance to make judgement without investigation and conclusion.

1) I am an OR member. I know when stuff is stolen from OR publications.

2) Odinist.com bandwagon? Well might be that, because before I renounced my staff position there, there must have been a reason why I originally got made a Mod in the firstplace. I would like to call it being on the line with serious Odinists though, rather than a "bandwagon"; McVan and Lane are scum who have nothing to do with our faith, basta.

3) You may well wish to proclaim "WP Heathenism", but there is no place on BuB for proclaiming such.

Nuff said.

Sigrid
Sunday, April 30th, 2006, 08:29 AM
This is quite a problem. I never criticise young people who first come into Odinism or Heathenism by various routes. I found the actual Asatru movement by seeing links on a rather extremist person's web site. At first I thought there were no white power nazi type Heathens as I was coming from a purely pagan arena and a non national socialist background so I had no idea they had infused this into present day Heathenism. After much trawling I discovered who was who and what was what and this takes time, so I sympathise with those who feel they would like to uphold an ideal. Sometimes the people who say they are doing this are not who we would like them to be. But we get our minds straight in the end. There is a webwork of confusion out there and people often find extremists first through political sites.

I don't like the clustering effect Northvegr has created, the better-than-thou stuff, the "we don't hate" people and so on, the universalists and all those types who are basically still very Christian in outlook and ethics and who are also terrified of the social stigma of labels whether they are doing anything wrong or not. There are so many pontificators out there as we all know. So many people who are convinced, like saints and martyrs, that they are the chosen ones to lead the tribes, etc.

It works itself out in the end. I landed in a few bogs at first. I was questioned by hawk-like antagonists and various nasty pieces of work from the far left, but I managed to stay afloat. People have no idea how hard this can be and how depressing the aggressive attitudes of lefties can be. They are positively demoralising. I admit that I fell off my perch several times, but I got back up on it somehow and I think I may even give flying a try one of these days.

Sigurd, you are on the right road. Balder is with you. klokkwerx, you are a child of the storm, like [s.o.s.], you will find your warrior's path as you go along.

There is room to evolve and if not then it isn't Heathenism they are practising, it's something else. We will all be drubbed as racists, that is our wyrd at the moment and in the near future. So we must take on this cloak and wear it clasped with Odin's folknot pin. We cannot take it off until we have arrived at the place we are headed for. That is (for some us) our oath and our destiny and our doom, if necessary. But I'm hoping it will, ultimately, be our victory and our reward.

:othala: :gugnir:

klokkwerx
Sunday, April 30th, 2006, 04:17 PM
1) I am an OR member. I know when stuff is stolen from OR publications.

2) Odinist.com bandwagon? Well might be that, because before I renounced my staff position there, there must have been a reason why I originally got made a Mod in the firstplace. I would like to call it being on the line with serious Odinists though, rather than a "bandwagon"; McVan and Lane are scum who have nothing to do with our faith, basta.

3) You may well wish to proclaim "WP Heathenism", but there is no place on BuB for proclaiming such.

Nuff said.

Sigurd,
You show the utmost ignorance in this matter, more like foolishness!
You are on the bandwagon, like a led sheep that listens to his master blindly!
Do you have any knowledge of who's who when that dumb debate over the Hammer rite came about? Do you speak to those persons personally? Do you know their relations with each other at the time? Do you know anything of Wotansvolk or the Creed of Iron, I bet not! Do your research before you stick your tongue out!

I do not proclaim "WP Heathenism", there is no such thing! I am Folkish in nature! Shows how much you know about me; there you go again, sticking your tongue out in the wind and letting it flap without doing your research!
I belong to a number of Odinist and Asatruar groups that I support including OR, but I be careful on judging other Folkish groups because you never know what's what due to our faith resurfacing in the modern world (we are just rediscovering the ways of our forefathers). I keep an open mind to other groups, because if you dont you might miss a piece of knowledge that is valuable and right on. The biggest problem that our faith has is just like what the X-ians have done, saying what's right and what's wrong, along on what to believe in, so they created to many factions. It saddens me to have a falling out with young man like you (17 are you?), or just anyone belonging to our faith because it makes enemies and creates disunity, in the long run, its counter productive. If I misjudged or disrepected you, my apologies, I didnt want this in the first place. All I am saying and wanted in the first place is to give our Folk a different channel to open their mind to so they can make choices for themselves, unfortunately you deprived them of that.

Another thing, I think BUB is the place to explore our Faith in a Folkish manner, along with interacting with a wide variety of Folkish Heathens, If not, then we should only have Odinist.com, no sense of having two forums alike right?

Lets start fresh from this point, so we dont have to continue wasting time bickering about some links I posted and creating hatred between us, you and I have made our points. Think about this in depth before writing here again, that's my advice if you care. Asa-speed to you!

Ewergrin
Sunday, April 30th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Clearly things are getting out of hand. I admit that I have not read this entire thread, but I read enough to understand the underlying problem here.

I don't like to see threads turn into pissing matches, so I'll intervine before this one turns into such.

I honestly think that klokkwerx's intentions are good, as are Sigrid/Sigurd's.

Sigrid is right, in that because of relatively recent historical events, the distinction between folkish heathenism and racism is blurred for those who are on the outside looking in.

Some of the links that you posted are fine. However, there were a few that raised a red flag with our Staff here. Action was taken. That action will not be reversed.

It is my goal that this forum seperates itself from questionable sources of information. People who are genuinely interested in knowledge and learning about the folkish way may come across those sources, but it won't be from this forum.

Do not take offense that your links were removed. Instead, look upon it as a sacrifice for the greater good of this forum.

Sigurd
Sunday, April 30th, 2006, 05:22 PM
Sigurd,
You show the utmost ignorance in this matter, more like foolishness!
You are on the bandwagon, like a led sheep that listens to his master blindly!
Do you have any knowledge of who's who when that dumb debate over the Hammer rite came about? Do you speak to those persons personally? Do you know their relations with each other at the time? Do you know anything of Wotansvolk or the Creed of Iron, I bet not! Do your research before you stick your tongue out!


So you say I'm a sheep rather than a shepherd? Interesting...Believe me I have heard a number of views on all different kind of things, and I usually approach everything both with interest and scepticism; and I tend to filter things given as "truths" to decide for myself how much is true and how much isn't. So I don't think I am much of a sheep.
Besides you accuse me later on of knowing nothing about you - but likewise I bet that you hardly know any more about me.


I do not proclaim "WP Heathenism", there is no such thing! I am Folkish in nature! Shows how much you know about me; there you go again, sticking your tongue out in the wind and letting it flap without doing your research!

That is good then, if you are Folkish in nature and realise that NS/WP Heathenism does not exist as such. If you however believe that someone associated with David Lane, the man who "invented" the 14 words is more interested in Heathenism than political agendas, you are misguided. Of course, there will be some good and decent folk in Wotansvolk, I don't doubt that - but then again you have good, folkish members in the Troth, too; so using that argument will not help it - or should I link to the Troth, too, then?


I belong to a number of Odinist and Asatruar groups that I support including OR, but I be careful on judging other Folkish groups because you never know what's what due to our faith resurfacing in the modern world (we are just rediscovering the ways of our forefathers). I keep an open mind to other groups, because if you dont you might miss a piece of knowledge that is valuable and right on. The biggest problem that our faith has is just like what the X-ians have done, saying what's right and what's wrong, along on what to believe in, so they created to many factions.

I personally don't think much of "badge collecting", but if you want to, then as a free person you have that choice, of course.
Of course we need unity - and it was attempted in the IAOA (International Asatru and Odinist Alliance), but the collaboration never turned out as well as they had thought.
I do respect other groups, but only if they are serious -> I can see many good minds coming from orgs like Irminen-Gesellschaft or the AFA. I won't compromise though with a group which walks a very close line between Folkishness and WP, for they could dip into the WP corner soon enough - and politics in our faith is the last thing we need. Of course, we can all have our own political agendas - such as me, a Folk Nationalist - but we should keep that for ourselves and not involve it with our religious convictions; and that is exactly what I am afraid of with Wotansvolk - that they are more political than some of the members would like to admit.

You also say that our faith oft prescribes what is right or wrong? Sorry, I can't second that. If you had read or viewed "Interview with a Gothi - Heimgest DCG speaks", then you would know that neither the 9 Charges nor the NNV are a list of "thou shalt"s and "thou shalt not"s. Or maybe you have viewed it, and are not to sure about it; I can assure you though that all "codes" are more like guides, not compulsory commandments.



Lets start fresh from this point, so we dont have to continue wasting time bickering about some links I posted and creating hatred between us, you and I have made our points. Think about this in depth before writing here again, that's my advice if you care. Asa-speed to you!

You are right though, there is no point going on, so this will be my last post until further notice as regards this topic. Discussion is respected and encouraged in our faith, and it only helps to have other viewpoints; yet too much will spoil all -> there used to be a member on O.com who was highly knowledgeable, but who sought to break an argument over everything, which proved to be highly counterproductive. I will however, despite all being cleared, not include the links you posted for the time being. If they turn out to be not as bad as I originally believed, then I will, of course, add them to the list; for the minute however they need watching.

klokkwerx
Monday, May 1st, 2006, 02:22 AM
I am glad that we have an understanding and we will keep it like that.

I rather see unity vs. hate among us because there is way to much hate already in Folkish Asatru/Odinism.

oddevold
Sunday, June 11th, 2006, 12:17 PM
To continue on with the meaning of this topic:

www.forsite-verlag.de
(German books)

www.hagal.be
(Heathenism in Flandres)

Jason Genzler
Monday, September 11th, 2006, 11:31 PM
I'm new to the beliefs but I found that www.odin.com; www.irminsul.org; and www.jelldragon.com were quite useful. Infact one of these sites directed me here. I hope this is useful to some one else. If anyone knows any extras please inform me.

Veritas Ăquitas
Tuesday, September 12th, 2006, 07:01 PM
http://www.odinist.com is a great source of information. http://www.nineworldsradio.org/ is a online radio for odinists too.

nordischeWut
Friday, September 15th, 2006, 09:56 PM
http://www.geocities.com/nordic_twilight/asatru.htm
my german favourite link about asatru

Westward
Saturday, September 16th, 2006, 12:04 PM
Hey, Jason, I don't know if you're looking for an asatru message board, but I'm a member here:

http://www.asatrulore.org/index.php?sid=c68ffeb269b93d050519025944 d5ed14

Going off to check out the other links....

Osmaegen
Saturday, September 16th, 2006, 08:09 PM
Another good site, although more to the Anglo-Saxon side (but useful for any Heathen) is http://www.ealdriht.org It has a very good message board with archives of their old one, as well as many other features such as downloads of runic fonts, chatrooom, and a shoutbox.

Osmaegen
Sunday, September 17th, 2006, 07:47 AM
Another good site is http://huginn.ealdriht.org it is a search engine for only Heathen sites.

Sigurd
Monday, September 18th, 2006, 05:41 PM
I thought it might be useful for visitors of the board to have a comprehensive list of sites and books that are recommended for Folkish Asatruar (plus a few non-Folkish sites with valuable information but which have to be handled with care.)
Feel free to add any that you know in a post of yourself.

Sites of Organisations:
The Odinic Rite (http://www.odinic-rite.org)
The Asatru Alliance (http://www.asatru.org)
Asatru Folk Assembly (http://www.runestone.org)
Irminen-Gesellschaft (http://www.irminenschaft.net)
Allgermanische Heidnische Front (http://www.heathenfront.org)
Comunita Odinista (http://www.comunitaodinista.org/) (Lombard Odinic org)
Islenska Asatrufelagid (http://www.asatru.is)

Sites of valuable information:
The Norroena Society (http://www.norroena.org)
Anglo-Saxon Heathenism (http://www.englishheathenism.homestead.com/)
Northvegr Foundation (http://www.northvegr.org) (valuable information, but it is doubtful whether you can trust the people running it, as the Logretta v Northvegr case shows)
Thorburn's Hof (http://www.thorshof.org) (some good articles, but be careful, the leaders are Unis!)
Odinic Rite Guardians (http://www.odinic-rite.org/guardians/) (A site by the OR dedicated to natural preservation)
Odinism - What Is It? (http://www.paganlibrary.com/reference/odinism.php) (an article from the OR published in 1980; also available in printed form through the Odinic Rite site)
The Odinist Library (http://www.geocities.com/odinistlibrary/)

Magazines of interest for Folk Building, Asatru, etc.
Sigrdrifa Publications (http://www.sigrdrifa.net)
Vor Tru magazine (http://asatru.org/vortru.html)

Books of interest:
"Book of Blotar - The Authentic Rituals of the Odinic Rite" by the Odinic Rite. (Available over the OR website)
"Odinism in the Modern World" by Wulfstan OR (Available through the Odinic Rite)
"Odinic Mythology Pts. I & II" by the Circle of Ostara (Available through the Odinic Rite)
"Germanic Heathenry" by James Hjuka Coulter (Available through the Irminen-Gesellschaft and Amazon)
"The Nature of Asatru" by Mark Puryear (Available through the Norroena Society and Barnes & Noble)
"We are our deeds" by Eric Wodening (Available through the Asatru Alliance)
"Asatru - The Hidden Fortress" by Edred Wodansson (Available through Wodanesdag (http://www.odin.org))
"Interview with a Gothi - Heimgest DCG speaks" (Available through the Odinic Rite website)

Other internet communities of interest:
The Odinist Forums (http://www.odinist.com/othala)
Nordfolk Forums (http://www.nordfolk.net)
Blut und Boden Forums (http://www.blutundboden.com/forum)
Tr˙ Folk (http://www.trufolk.net)
Irminenschaft Yahoo Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Irminenschaft/)
If you use MySpace:
Folkish Asatru MySpace group (http://groups.myspace.com/folkishasatru)

Osmaegen
Tuesday, September 19th, 2006, 03:42 AM
I would like to add the website Miercinga Theod (http://www.ealdriht.org) Large amount of information on rites, the gods, and wyrd with articles by Eric Wodening and his brother Swain

and the book

"Hammer of the Gods: Anglo-Saxon Paganism in Modern Times" by Swain Wodening (available through Amazon.com)

ASHAMIL (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASHMAIL/) A list for Anglo-Saxon Heathens

Ealdriht Outer Hall (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ealdriht) A list ran by Miercinga Theod for those interested in Anglo-Saxon Heathenry and Theodism

Varg
Wednesday, September 20th, 2006, 12:33 PM
For the Flemish / Dutch Heathens:

http://www.hagal.be

http://www.hagal.be/banier1.jpg

Odinssohn
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 07:35 PM
www.othala.org (http://www.othala.org)
Radio,Forum, Email Address

asabookfinder
Tuesday, December 5th, 2006, 08:11 PM
To add to the listings:

Holy Nation of Odin (http://www.holynationofodin.org/) a split off of the NPKA.

Gamall Steinn (http://gamall-steinn.org) a website with articles and a scholarly works section. ;)

Gagnraad
Wednesday, December 6th, 2006, 12:58 PM
To add to the listings:
Gamall Steinn (http://gamall-steinn.org) a website with articles and a scholarly works section. ;)
That site is recommendable indeed! ;)

Sigurd
Friday, August 3rd, 2007, 03:25 PM
I thought it might be useful for visitors of the board to have a comprehensive list of sites and books that are recommended for Folkish Asatruar (plus a few non-Folkish sites with valuable information but which have to be handled with care.)

Feel free to add any that you know in a post of yourself.

Sites of Organisations:
The Odinic Rite (http://www.odinic-rite.org)
The Asatru Alliance (http://www.asatru.org)
Asatru Folk Assembly (http://www.runestone.org)
Irminen-Gesellschaft (http://www.irminenschaft.net)
Comunita Odinista (http://www.comunitaodinista.org/) (Lombard Odinic org)
Islenska Asatrufelagid (http://www.asatru.is)

Sites of valuable information:
The Norroena Society (http://www.norroena.org)
Anglo-Saxon Heathenism (http://www.englishheathenism.homestead.com/)
Northvegr Foundation (http://www.northvegr.org) (valuable information, but it is doubtful whether you can trust the people running it, as the Logretta v Northvegr case shows)
Thor's Hof (http://www.thorshof.org) (some good articles, but be careful, the leaders are Unis!)
Odinic Rite Guardians (http://www.odinic-rite.org/guardians/) (A site by the OR dedicated to natural preservation)
Odinism - What Is It? (http://www.paganlibrary.com/reference/odinism.php) (an article from the OR published in 1980; also available in printed form through the Odinic Rite site)
The Odinist Library (http://www.geocities.com/odinistlibrary/)

Magazines of interest for Folk Building, Asatru, etc.
Sigrdrifa Publications (http://www.sigrdrifa.net)
Vor Tru magazine (http://asatru.org/vortru.html)

Books of interest:
"Book of Blotar - The Authentic Rituals of the Odinic Rite" by the Odinic Rite. (Available over the OR website)
"Odinism in the Modern World" by Wulfstan OR (Available through the Odinic Rite)
"Odinic Mythology Pts. I & II" by the Circle of Ostara (Available through the Odinic Rite)
"Germanic Heathenry" by James Hjuka Coulter (Available through the Irminen-Gesellschaft and Amazon)
"The Nature of Asatru" by Mark Puryear (Available through the Norroena Society and Barnes & Noble)
"We are our deeds" by Eric Wodening (Available through the Asatru Alliance)
"Asatru - The Hidden Fortress" by Edred Wodansson (Available through Wodanesdag (www.odin.org))
"Interview with a Gothi - Heimgest DCG speaks" (Available through the Odinic Rite website)

Other internet communities of interest:
The Odinist Forums (www.odinist.net)
Nordfolk Forums (www.nordfolk.net)
Blut und Boden Forums (www.blutundboden.com/forum)
Tr˙ Folk (www.trufolk.net)
Irminenschaft Yahoo Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Irminenschaft/)

Ăgir
Friday, August 3rd, 2007, 05:44 PM
An essay that I really recommend was written by Edred Thorsson it is titled The Secret of the Gothick God of Darkness and it can be found in the Book Blue Runa. Check it out!

:hve­rungur:
Tuesday, August 7th, 2007, 10:08 PM
An essay that I really recommend was written by Edred Thorsson it is titled The Secret of the Gothick God of Darkness and it can be found in the Book Blue Runa. Check it out!

Be careful with Edreds works. While he has written some good stuff (His "Futhark" and articles in the Tyr journals come to mind) but he also walks a fine line between Heathenry and satanism.

Some info on him from Wikipedia:


Criticisms

Flowers has received criticism for his involvement in occult organizations, most prominently by members of Germanic neopagan groups who see such associations as potentially misrepresenting and damaging to their religion.

In 1989, Flowers was expelled from the Odinic Rite following his Open Letter to the Leadership of the Asatru/Odinist/Troth Movement wherein he detailed his involvement with the Temple of Set.

Sweyn Plowright, a former member of the Rune-Gild who resigned from the organization in 2000[1] (http://www.authorsden.com/sweynplowright), has characterized the philosophy of Flowers as being "neo-satanic" and antinomian.


Is this the Essay you were talking about?

http://www.trapezoid.org/thought/secret.html

I'm not saying don't read any of Flowers' articles, books or essays. Just read and think for yourself, ask questions like is this traditional or is it bullshit?

:hve­rungur:
Friday, August 24th, 2007, 11:56 AM
A pretty good Anglo-Saxon Heathen yahoo list moderated by Swain and Eric Wodening:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ASHMAIL/

A few links to some Theodish websites...

Englatheod (Anglo-Saxon Theodish belief): http://www.englatheod.org
Sahsisk Thiod (Saxon Theodish belief): http://www.sahsisk.org
Axenthof Thiad (Frisian Theodish belief): http://www.axenthof.org
Miercinga Theod: http://www.ealdriht.org

Loftor
Tuesday, November 13th, 2007, 11:45 PM
Ravencast - The Asatru Podcast

http://ravencast.podbean.com/

signofthehammer
Sunday, September 7th, 2008, 06:34 PM
Northvegr Foundation (http://www.northvegr.org) (valuable information, but it is doubtful whether you can trust the people running it, as the Logretta v Northvegr case shows)

What's the Logretta v Northvegr case?



This forum below I use. It is also for folkists, but no poilitical discussion. It is purely for northern Europeans to honour the gods.
http://www.odinist.com/othala/

That forum is a joke, which annoys me because a lot of the discussion is quite good. But despite its no political discussion stance it's set up by micetrap records which is straight up neo-nazi. How can that be taken seriously by a self respecting heathen?

Kriegersohn
Monday, September 8th, 2008, 07:20 AM
That forum is a joke, which annoys me because a lot of the discussion is quite good. But despite its no political discussion stance it's set up by micetrap records which is straight up neo-nazi. How can that be taken seriously by a self respecting heathen?

Most, if not all, of the old moderators on Odinist.com are here: Odinist.net (http://www.odinist.net)

Reynard
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009, 09:37 PM
my favourites are in my signature!

SpearBrave
Saturday, July 25th, 2009, 10:52 AM
I am curious about Asatru and would like your thoughts on what books,web sites or places to go to find out more info.

Hersir
Saturday, July 25th, 2009, 11:53 AM
The older edda and Snorre's edda is good.

Grimsteinr
Saturday, July 25th, 2009, 02:43 PM
The two best National Organization Web sites are those of the
Asatru Folk Assembly and the Asatru Alliance. Both have many members across the USA. They each have numerous article concerning Asatru.They have separate but similar POV's.
There is a 3rd Organization that is non-Folkish........called "The Troth".
They permit anyone of any race or ethnicity to join.......N/R.

You can find many other good web sites by simply "Googling" or using
"dogpile.com" to search for "Folkish Asatru".
Good Luck!

Lyfing
Sunday, July 26th, 2009, 04:10 AM
I'd go with Germanic Spirituality (http://74.6.146.127/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=germanic+spirituality&fr=moz35&u=www.northvegr.org/northern/book/spirituality.pdf&w=germanic+spirituality&d=fpZvZRlMTCqG&icp=1&.intl=us) to start with. It and the rest I'd go with after that can be found here.. (http://www.angelfire.com/nm/seidhman/)

Later,
-Lyfing

Zimobog
Sunday, July 26th, 2009, 08:30 AM
Here is a great collection of Northern Lore:
http://www.northvegr.org/lore/main.php

Here is the oldest "modern" Heathen book (although it reports to be ancient, it was at least invented in the late 1800s)
http://cruisenews.net/atlantis/oeralinda.html

Have fun, and don't forget to check out You Tube and stuff too!

Landers
Thursday, September 9th, 2010, 08:42 AM
Amazing, have you even heard from the other side of the story (the person accused: McVan), or are you on the band-wagon with the others in Odinist.com? It shows ignorance to make judgement without investigation and conclusion.

He is a plagiarist. This is the original article: http://web.archive.org/web/20060913000000/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_McVan

In that article are a few Odinist.com links. These links were by the person that took on the task of looking into both sides. The links showed exactly was was copied and the author contacted the Rite, McNallen and McVan. The responces were laid clear in the threads but I can no longer access them. McVan is the only one that never responded and the poster new him personally.

Landers
Friday, October 15th, 2010, 10:19 AM
He is on facebook if anyone wants to get his side: http://www.facebook.com/ron.mcvan or you can email him: divineapollo@bresnan.net

Fyrgenholt
Friday, October 15th, 2010, 11:55 AM
Well, I don't know much about 'Asatruar' or what Asatruar happen to read or cite as influential, however, these are some of the books that I have read, all of which have had varying degrees of influence in regards to my worldview:

The Horse, The Wheel and Language (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Horse-Wheel-Language-Bronze-Age-Eurasian/dp/069114818X/ref=pd_sim_b_1), In Search of the Indo-Europeans (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Search-Indo-Europeans-Language-Archaeology-Myth/dp/0500276161/ref=pd_sim_b_5), Indo-European Poetry and Myth (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Indo-European-Poetry-Myth-M-West/dp/0199558914/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287139213&sr=1-2), Comparative Mythology (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Comparative-Mythology-Jaan-Puhvel/dp/0801839386/ref=pd_sim_b_4), The Way of Wyrd (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Way-Wyrd-Tales-Anglo-Saxon-Sorcerer/dp/1401904777/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287138674&sr=8-1), The Penguin Book of Norse Myths (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Penguin-Book-Norse-Myths-Vikings/dp/0140258698/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287138737&sr=1-1), The Prose Edda (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prose-Edda-Mythology-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140447555/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287138767&sr=1-1), The Poetic Edda (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Poetic-Edda-Oxford-Worlds-Classics/dp/0199538387/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287138796&sr=1-1), Beowulf (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beowulf-Bilingual-Seamus-Heaney/dp/0571230415/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287138952&sr=1-2), Book of Celtic Myth and Legend (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mammoth-Book-Celtic-Myths-Legends/dp/1841192481/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287139456&sr=1-1), The Penguin Book of Classical Myths (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Penguin-Book-Classical-Myths/dp/0141020776/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287139489&sr=1-6),The Lost Beliefs of Northern Europe (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Beliefs-Northern-Europe/dp/0415049377/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=IGEA1HWVIFFNJ&colid=1185XHDGZFS3Y), Looking for the Lost Gods of England (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Looking-Lost-England-Kathleen-Herbert/dp/1898281041/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287139531&sr=1-1), Myths and Symbols in Pagan Europe (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Myths-Symbols-Pagan-Europe-Davidson/dp/0815624417/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287138826&sr=1-1), The Quest for the Shaman (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quest-Shaman-Shape-Shifters-Sorcerers-Spirit-healers/dp/0500051348/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287139142&sr=1-1), The Essential Vedanta (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Essential-Vedanta-Advaita-Treasures-Religions/dp/0941532526/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287138914&sr=1-1-spell)

I have read more, but these are the books that first come to my head.

Relatively recently somebody on Skadi posted a link to a video by a lady who posts on Youtube, I've been watching her videos, too, and they too have proven to be quite influential - these three standing out in my mind, currently:

7_z5h_eCWI0
InloGBsMaOo
qOd6A23J_TU

I'd recommend skipping 'The Universal Soul' and going straight for 'Witches and Rituals of Initiation' if you don't have the time or the want to engage in all three videos, as both this and 'Hanging the Sorcerer' are, I think, much more interesting. Her ideas are quite 'unorthadox', too, so watch openmindedly ;)

ulfrik
Friday, November 19th, 2010, 12:08 AM
has any one been to odinist.com?
http://www.odinist.com/othala/index.php


(book)
The Masks of Odin
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/odin/odin-hp.htm

odinwar
Saturday, January 29th, 2011, 09:52 PM
Enjoy Designing Items That Reflect Asatru/Odinist/Viking Heritage...

http://www.zazzle.com/odinwar*

Wychaert
Saturday, January 29th, 2011, 10:49 PM
Is that a black guy with an Asatru shirt??? http://www.zazzle.com/asatru_shirt-235275385947953485

Thorgalls
Monday, July 18th, 2011, 01:10 AM
For Heathens in AZ

www.AZAsatru.com (http://www.azasatru.com)