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Seppl
Thursday, October 31st, 2002, 06:50 AM
We should look at the physionogomy of the Non-Aryan races as well. As brachiacephalic, Mesocephalic & Doliocephalic headforms are a feature of the lower races as well! C.I. is a good indicator of subracial classification within the main race, but not an indicator of race itself. As other factors like prognathy & cranial capacity are better indicators, beside the obvious indicator Skin Colour of Race.
Mongolid: have approximately 4 main subraces: Head form ranges from Doliocephalic (Eskimoes) to Hyper-brachicephalic Tungids.
Negrid: have about 4 main subraces: Head form ranges from Hyper-doliocephalic to Doliocephalic.
Indianid: American Indians have about 3 Subraces: head form ranging from Mesocephalic to Hyper-brachiacephalic.
Australid: Has 4 main Subraces including Australian Aboriginals, Melanesians & Dravidians (Indians) Hyper-Doliocephalic to Doliocephalic.
This is a sample of the largest groups of Coloured races, we have not included Arabs,Jews, Turkics & Latinos as they are hybrid races which can't be really classified as separate racial entities.
Food for thought?
Servus,
Josef:gift

Hellstar
Thursday, October 31st, 2002, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Seppl
Food for thought?

Yes very interesting, I think you might typed something wrong but I get back to that.

We should look at the physionogomy of the Non-Aryan races as well. As brachiacephalic, Mesocephalic & Doliocephalic headforms are a feature of the lower races as well! C.I. is a good indicator of subracial classification within the main race, but not an indicator of race itself. As other factors like prognathy & cranial capacity are better indicators, beside the obvious indicator Skin Colour of Race.
I absolutely agree, physionogomy is very important, alot of times people classify the wrong way. they use all the stereotype characteristics, like tall, blond, blue eyed, there is way more to it, I believe I can read a Germanic face so well, I know if people are one of mine or not, its something hard to describe.

prognathy is indicator of rudimentary conditions within the soul.

Mongolid: have approximately 4 main subraces: Head form ranges from Doliocephalic (Eskimoes) to Hyper-brachicephalic Tungids.
if I remember correct, I would make this correction here:

Polar and Eskimo folk can we put into these main sub races here.
Eskimos/Greenlanders, Laps, Tschuktschs, KorjŠks, Ostjaks with several sub tribes such as jankuts and Tungids as you mention.
Tungids display brachycephalic condition yes, but you really think Eskimos display Dolichocephalic conditions?


Negrid: have about 4 main subraces: Head form ranges from Hyper-doliocephalic to Doliocephalic.
Negroid as the most undeveloped specie of all (except from aboriginals/other Orientals) has never interested me much, but I do believe that there is several good examples of mesocephals and brachycephalics in the Negroid poll however. you really think it only varies from Hyper dolicho - dolicho? also there is definitely more than 4 subtypes.


Indianid: American Indians have about 3 Subraces: head form ranging from Mesocephalic to Hyper-brachiacephalic.
yea that doesn't surprise me, also they are some clear divergence from mongolids. any theories to other elements in American Indians?


Australid: Has 4 main Subraces including Australian Aboriginals, Melanesians & Dravidians (Indians) Hyper-Doliocephalic to Doliocephalic.
Its my opinion that the aboriginals are pure type, with mainly nigger and some oriental, you should make a clear distinction from Aboriginals and dravian types, I agree of similarity between Melanesians, Polynesians with Aboriginal and I expect Melanesians and Polynesians to be linked alittle to the mysterious Japanese Aino? are all these races really Dolichocephalic? I find it hard to believe.


Arabs,Jews, Turkics & Latinos as they are hybrid races which can't be really classified as separate racial entities.
Arabs, Jews, Turks Paints the picture of Mongoloid dimorphism mixed with Europeans.

StrÝbog
Thursday, October 31st, 2002, 04:06 PM
I agree that Jews, Turkics and Latinos are Mongoloid mixed with White, but Arabs aren't Mongoloid... They are Semite, mixed with White in places like Syria and Lebanon, and with Negro in places like Egypt. Jews weren't originally Mongoloid either; this is due to Khazar admixture.

GreenHeart
Thursday, October 31st, 2002, 09:17 PM
I think this is really interesting. I remember reading somewhere that indians were long headed in most cases, isn't that true? Also in some cases some were mixed with whites who had already reached america much earlier in small numbers. And that would explain their higher bridged nose and redder skin than what typical mongoloids have. It all fits together in my opinion, and US government and archaeology wants to censor it so the indians can keep their special minority status.

I think that the semitic race is an ancient mixture of about 7 parts white to 3 parts black, thats why they have darker skin and kinky black hair. Or would you just call it common divergence, that these traits devoloped independently?

@Seppl

All these races have subraces which I have been thinking about. How does this compare to how many subraces we have? What number would you put our subraces at, 3? (nordic med and alpine) or would you also count dinarics and east baltics? How do you define "main" subraces?

StrÝbog
Thursday, October 31st, 2002, 09:32 PM
Many semites have straight, black hair. There was some degree of convergent evolution, because curly hair better absorbs and shields from intense solar radiation. Obviously the same goes for the dark skin. Dravidics are not Negroid, but many are as dark as any African, due to convergent evolution. It is true that after Islam, Arabs began to mix racially with their Negro slaves. This is quite possibly a second contributing factor to the curly hair. However, this is a relatively recent occurence and the original Semites were not Negroid at all.

Hellstar
Thursday, October 31st, 2002, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by NordicPower88
I think this is really interesting. I remember reading somewhere that indians were long headed in most cases, isn't that true? Also in some cases some were mixed with whites who had already reached america much earlier in small numbers. And that would explain their higher bridged nose and redder skin than what typical mongoloids have. It all fits together in my opinion, and US government and archaeology wants to censor it so the indians can keep their special minority status.

Sorry but That's plain stupid theory, The Indians were destroyed by Aryan culture imperialists, Jews and the Indians them self not to forget, They should have more rights than any Aryan living in USA at this present time. certainly if you all embrace democracy over there!.

They are Asians divergence. if they are mixed with other types im not sure, but your theories are vague because Whites came not very long ago to America, and no real interbreeding took place before the actually destruction of these Indian archetypes types, these were formed from thousands of years isolated from whites in the first place, if whites are to come from either I.E/CRO-MAGNON or pure divergented asien types, then you can compare that long time period with the time period of the first Asian/Indian expansions and see not much time difference, if we could evolve so heavily, I think they could also, and we are talking about a nose bridge for Christ sake not the whole racial essence, also genetics will back me up in this.


I think that the semitic race is an ancient mixture of about 7 parts white to 3 parts black, thats why they have darker skin and kinky black hair. Or would you just call it common divergence, that these traits devoloped independently?
What made you come up with this conclusion?

@Seppl

All these races have subraces which I have been thinking about. How does this compare to how many subraces we have? What number would you put our subraces at, 3? (nordic med and alpine) or would you also count dinarics and east baltics? How do you define "main" subraces?

This Seppl can answer him self, but I kinda already know his answer. Seppl See the Third Reich settings as of great validity, but his open to all the different and numerous subraces. yea covering the whole spectrum basically.

The Aryan race must have around 30-50 subraces.

GreenHeart
Friday, November 1st, 2002, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by HELLSTAR
What made you come up with this conclusion?


This Seppl can answer him self, but I kinda already know his answer. Seppl See the Third Reich settings as of great validity, but his open to all the different and numerous subraces. yea covering the whole spectrum basically.

The Aryan race must have around 30-50 subraces.

Well, I just look at things how they are and try to formulate my own theories. I have read on quite a few sites and various other places that Columbus and other pioneers were amazed to see blond children playing in not yet explored areas (and a tribe which looked mostly White called the Mandans). Also how can you explain the Indian legends of warring with blond haired people? And what about the fact that they found swastikas throughout the central united states on ancient buildings, and that the buildings that were discovered after Europeans supposedly first came to america were not unlike viking buildings. There were structures resembling viking long houses.

See this book: History of America before Columbus According to Documents and Approved Authors by De Roo, Peter, 1839-1926
http://www.vnlnd.net/author/DP01A900.htm

If you don't think we could get to America, I should remind you that we were as far as China, Africa, and the Canary Islands in ancient times.

More sites:]
http://historymedren.about.com/cs/vikingsinamerica/
http://www.mnh.si.edu/arctic/arctic/features/viking/
http://www.icetourist.is/displayer.asp?cat_id=12
http://www.nfld.com/nfld/tourism/lanseaux/lanseaux.html
http://www.nfld.com/nfld/tourism/lanseaux/lanseaux.html
http://www.tidespoint.com/usedbooks/vikingdisc.shtml
http://la.essortment.com/lanseauxmeado_rvvi.htm
http://www.hist.unt.edu/09w-ar7k.htm
http://www.hist.unt.edu/09w-ar7s.htm
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/Taino/docs/columbus.html
http://emuseum.mnsu.edu/prehistory/vikings/viknfl.html

http://www.timeforkids.com/TFK/magazines/story/0,6277,48863,00.html
http://www.bullfrogfilms.com/catalog/norse.html
http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us/hampton/history/ourtown/thevikings.htm
http://www.jbmailroom.com/oasiswriters/lopez/columbus.html
http://edsearch.pbs.org/Eas/resources/res_det.htm?rk=1297&rc=55
http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/09/23/p13s1.htm
http://www.where-can-i-find.com/wales/history/madoc.htm
http://sirius.sgic.fi/~juha/columbus.html
http://www.biztravel.com/Articles/20000327.html
http://www.tylwythteg.com/fortmount/Ftmount.html
http://www.essaymill.com/free_essays/inmers/m709.htm

Vikings were here and even modern mainstream archaeologists are forced to admit it in light of all the evidence!

"In 1961 a Viking farmhouse was unearthed at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland. Now designated a UNESCO World Heritage Site, L'Anse aux Meadows has been developed with reconstructed Viking turf huts and an audio-visual centre. In Greenland, relics are preserved of the ancient cathedral at Gardar and the nearby church which Eirik the Red's wife Thjodhild had built in defiance of her pagan husband. A reconstruction of Eirik's own farmhouse at Brattahlid has now been completed."
http://www.dalir.is/leif/discovery.html

@Hellstar, also what would those 30-50 subraces be??

Hellstar
Friday, November 1st, 2002, 01:47 AM
NordicPower88


well You know I like you form your own ideas and that is one of the things making you an interesting personality. im just saying its important we have a stand and not fall for to much Yankee WN shit. its not true all the legends you proclaim, I know my history on this point very well as I read the most ancient tellings delivered directly in purest form seen today. Of cause there were Vikings houses but it was only in alittle region up North, there is not found one single evidence beside a Viking coin in south main, no more south has ever been found. but some culture similarity all the way to the Incas do we witness yes, but swastika symbols, I guess its coincidence, after all a very simple symbol, but it could be from somewhere im open to that.
I dont need to you read your sites as I know what im talking about but I save them for when I want to read something about this subject. so great amount of links you gave me.

its true there is tellings of a tribe being blond, and it could be Northern European linked BUT you said before, that the Vikings (in your first post), as to which the correlation between
Asians/Whites became ancient Indians, all this myths of whites are modern and not truly documented, further they are after the Viking age, so it all seems logical.

and lets make a new Thread about all Aryan/Cacasus subraces we can come to think of.

That's all.

GreenHeart
Friday, November 1st, 2002, 02:14 AM
Ok sounds good to me.

Seppl
Monday, November 4th, 2002, 08:58 AM
Thanks for your response. I made only a very limited & simplified comment on the headforms of the Coloured races most of the info came from Dr. J.R. Baker, RACE & I. Schwidetzky : Die Neue Rassen Kunde. The Negroid & Australiods are definately Doloicephalic. Eskimoes are also doliocephalic C.I. aproxim. 71-73.
But none of these races are culture creators, only the European & Mongoloid races have produced any lasting civilizations. The Asian civilization reached it's peak in the Middle ages & ours is still moving forwards. The asiatics have adopted our civilization but without us being the creative force behind it, it would only stagnate. Hitler, said this in Mein Kampf !
Recently a Japanese Scientist made the claim that Asiatic more specificially Brachicephalic Skulls, were superior as they have a larger brain case. He claimed also, that all Doloicephalic races are backward. What rubbish, C.I. has little to do with intelligence or creativity.All babies are born with a doliocephalic Skull, which may be a residual of our ancient forebears headforms.:eek:
All we have to know is that we put a man on the moon we created the first civilizations & we will continue to evolve intellectually, if we are not destroyed as an racial entity, then we will be thrown back into the dark ages never to rise again.:viking