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Imperator X
Tuesday, August 2nd, 2005, 08:31 PM
I recently finished Saga of the Volsungs translation by Jeffrey Byock. It was good it was not infused with Xian crap like how Beowulf was adulterated. I noticed it said in the Notes section "The Huns were considered just another Germanic tribe." I always thought the Goths considered them distinct because of their Mongoloid features.

In the Saga, there are references to Hunland, and I believe references to the hero Sigmund being the king of Hunland. Atilla makes his appearance in the Saga as King Atli, I think even one of the main protagonists, Brynhild was supposed to be related to him.

Sigel
Wednesday, August 3rd, 2005, 07:58 PM
I noticed it said in the Notes section "The Huns were considered just another Germanic tribe." I always thought the Goths considered them distinct because of their Mongoloid features.
Good point Dylan. The Huns were of Asian origin. I think the name refers to Hunan province. Atilla had Eastern Goths and Germanic Gepids in his army, so perhaps the confusion arose due to this.

The name was used in WW1 to describe Germans (the Hun).

Atilla pressed the nomadic German tribes of the east into his service but I guess it backfired. He had many wives but died on the night of his betrothal to a Gothic maiden called Ildico ;)

A joint army of Romans, Franks, Saxons and West Goths saved Europe from conquest by Atilla, so it was (partly) Goth Vs Goth. The Niebelungenlied, as it is known in German, is a fusion of several Germanic myths from different periods and a beautiful work.

Imperator X
Wednesday, August 3rd, 2005, 08:29 PM
Goth VS. Goth. Kind of reminds me of when King Brian Boru, and the Irish fought alongside sympathetic Viking mercenaries against King Mael Mordha and the Vikings fighting alongside sympathetic Irish mercenaries. The battle of Clontarf which I mention, is often painted as Irish vs. Viking when in reality it was also a battle between 2 Irish kings of two different provinces fighting one another.