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Chatte
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008, 10:36 PM
Looking at species in prehistory, even the strongest and thoughest species become extinct sooner or later. Like Dinosaurs, mammoths, sabertooth cats.
Some survive for a long time, but some only for a short time. Especially in periods when environment was changing species become extinct.
Our enviornment is changing extremely fast which makes extinctions likely. Do you think we will survive the next 1000 years ?
If not, how could the last human die ?
Virus ? - Improbable, because always some individuals survive
Asteriod ? - Improbable, because large ones only occur every 60 million years
Alien ? - Improbable, because they had 5 billion years to come to earth and never did
Nuclear War ? - Maybe, but ususally always a few specimen are resistant
Will something new evolve out of us and kill us ?

BeornWulfWer
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 02:16 AM
Virus ? - Improbable, because always some individuals survive
Asteriod ? - Improbable, because large ones only occur every 60 million years
Alien ? - Improbable, because they had 5 billion years to come to earth and never did
Nuclear War ? - Maybe, but ususally always a few specimen are resistant
Will something new evolve out of us and kill us ?

I think the human race is the perfect creation on this Earth.

# Virus: Nothing which can't be combated and eventually controlled by scientists

# Aliens: Any life form that has transcended all primitive urges and instincts is not going to travel millions of light years to control and subjugate an alien life form.

Regardless of what Von Daniken says. ;)

# Nuclear War is a very strong possibility, but I hold on to the words of my teacher from near 18 years ago when he said that no country, no man is mad enough to eliminate man beyond all recognition.

There is a limit to mankind's destruction.

Leonhardt
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 02:21 AM
From what I have read, many Russian and Chinese Generals think that nuclear war is inevitable.

BeornWulfWer
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 02:26 AM
From what I have read, many Russian and Chinese Generals think that nuclear war is inevitable.

All the more reason to appease these people.

It may seem like a very weak and lackadaisical approach to a potential enemy, but it is also a good approach towards a potential foe.

Gorm the Old
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 02:26 AM
One possibility is that humanity will, in time, evolve into something so different that it can no longer be called human.

Another is that mankind will invent virtually indestructible android bodies which humans will take over at the moment of the death of the biological body and use as they have theretofore used the biological body, becoming, in effect, immortal.

This is not for all. Only a few would ever have minds and personalities which could tolerate and benefit from immortality. Those who are prone to boredom
would be inviting the torment of interminable boredome.

BeornWulfWer
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 02:28 AM
Another is that mankind will invent virtually indestructible android bodies which humans will take over at the moment of the death of the biological body and use as they have theretofore used the biological body, becoming, in effect, immortal.


But can they be thought of as 'human' from therein?

Psychonaut
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 02:30 AM
There's a great website called Exit Mundi (http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm) which is a collection of (almost) all of the 'end of the world' scenarios.

My bet is that it'll be the Supervolcano (http://www.exitmundi.nl/volcano.htm) underneath the Yellowstone National Park. After all it is overdue for another eruption. :-O

Athalwulf
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 02:35 AM
# Nuclear War is a very strong possibility, but I hold on to the words of my teacher from near 18 years ago when he said that no country, no man is mad enough to eliminate man beyond all recognition.

There is a limit to mankind's destruction.

What about Hitler's "Doomsday Device"? If it existed, then there were plans to destroy the Earth, we just don't know if the plans would have worked.



But back on topic: I don't think the human race will die off for a long, long time. If there is enough nuclear radiation from a nuclear war in the future, human beings as we know them will eventually die off either from the radiation destroying all of our land crops or the radiation mutating us into something other than humans as we know ourselves today.

Gorm the Old
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 03:08 AM
Whether the immortal androids could be considered human is a VERY debatable point, and I'd wager that, if and when it comes to pass, there will be long-lasting and often bitter debate about that very issue.

I, myself, would answer that question with a definite "maybe". :D

BeornWulfWer
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 03:26 AM
I, myself, would answer that question with a definite "maybe". :D

LOL! It's always safe on the fence. :)

Leonhardt
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 03:27 AM
My second guess after nukes, would be a comet strike. I think the military people in their deep bunkers, with their food supplies, will survive any type of catastrophe short of the destruction of the planet.


Whether the immortal androids could be considered human is a VERY debatable point, and I'd wager that, if and when it comes to pass, there will be long-lasting and often bitter debate about that very issue.
Scientists are working on genetic manipulation that minimizes the accumulation of defects over the years. This could be the beginnings of at least very long life.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/nov/18/genetics.science

CrystalRose
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 03:39 AM
If not by power, greed, nukes, mother nature.. I think we'll eventually pollute ourselves to death. Everything causes cancer these days, could it be from a toxic stressed out peoples? Unless we make special trips to outer space and feed our garbage into a black hole. Or start looking for another blue/green planet and relocate. Skadi members first! ;):D

BeornWulfWer
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 04:14 AM
My second guess after nukes, would be a comet strike. I think the military people in their deep bunkers, with their food supplies, will survive any type of catastrophe short of the destruction of the planet.

Unfortunately, you may well be correct. :(


If not by power, greed, nukes, mother nature.. I think we'll eventually pollute ourselves to death. Everything causes cancer these days, could it be from a toxic stressed out peoples? Unless we make special trips to outer space and feed our garbage into a black hole. Or start looking for another blue/green planet and relocate. Skadi members first! ;):D

Everything causes cancer and then......it magically doesn't a week later.

I remember the Daily Mail saying red sauce(tomato ketchup) being a cancerous source(no pun intended:P). but then the next week it being declared safe and more nutritional than actual tomatoes!!??

Athalwulf
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008, 04:16 AM
I remember the Daily Mail saying red sauce(tomato ketchup) being a cancerous source(no pun intended:P). but then the next week it being declared safe and more nutritional than actual tomatoes!!??

Haha I never heard that!

Are there any other situations like this?

lei.talk
Friday, October 10th, 2008, 09:10 AM
My second guess...would be a comet strike.http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=601120#post601120

Cythraul
Friday, October 10th, 2008, 10:24 AM
We as a species will survive for a very long time (whether on this planet or another ;)) but we as a civilisation are circling the drain. My belief is that time is cyclical, not linear. There have many advanced civlisations before us and will be advanced civlisations after our demise.

Octothorpe
Thursday, December 25th, 2008, 04:17 AM
I remember reading that the average 'lifespan' of any mammalian species is about 5 million years; however, generalized species (such as cockroaches and rats) have much longer potential (and actual) lifespans (230 million years and counting, for the roaches!). Why? It seems that generalizers, as opposed to specialists, adapt to changing conditions.

Humans are fairly generalized, outside of their cerebral cortexes, and as tool-users, have a better chance of long-term species survival. My bet is 10 million more years, so long as the species colonizes the solar system. If humans move out into the rest of the Orion Arm, the timespan could be much, much longer.

paraplethon
Friday, August 6th, 2010, 03:54 AM
Humans are fairly generalized, outside of their cerebral cortexes, and as tool-users, have a better chance of long-term species survival. My bet is 10 million more years, so long as the species colonizes the solar system. If humans move out into the rest of the Orion Arm, the timespan could be much, much longer.

True. I was about to say it's not really inevitable we someday become extinct only to read this final post. If we're spread further afield across numerous planets, moons, systems etc our chance of survival increases enormously.

OnePercent
Tuesday, April 19th, 2011, 03:24 AM
Personally I subscribe to the "Brave New World" theory that sooner or later humanity will begin to engage in large-scale genetic engineering of our own offspring that will eventually result in the evolution away from, or outright destruction of our species. It will start with rich parents "designing" their children to have certain traits and eventually will result in mass-produced cloning of human beings. In the long run we will either modify our own DNA to be something that is not really human anymore or (more likely in my opinion) we will accidentally engineer some kind of genetic "plague" that will wipe us out.

Another likely possibility for our eventual demise would be a "skynet" or matrix-like scenario wherein automated systems unite under a malevolent AI and destroy mankind, either intentionally or inadvertently. I know that to many this idea seems a bit outlandish, but it is worth noting that the US Department of Defense has been working for decades on creating a military-purpose AI that will be able to make the decision to "kill" enemy targets with absolutely no human input beforehand. Perhaps someday a "skynet"-like AI may be given (or will take) this level of control over the majority of our military assets and turn them against us.

Weitgereister
Tuesday, April 19th, 2011, 03:30 AM
If all of the above posts don't happen first, our sun will eventually cook the planet. If we don't have space travel down and/or can't find another suitable planet, no more humanity.

Northern Paladin
Tuesday, April 19th, 2011, 03:33 AM
Disgenics, followed by war and sickness.

OnePercent
Wednesday, April 20th, 2011, 02:02 AM
Brśđr muno beriaz
ok at bǫnom verđa[z]
muno systrungar
sifiom spilla.
Hart er í heimi,
hórdómr mikill
—skeggǫld, skálmǫld
—skildir ro klofnir—
vindǫld, vargǫld—
áđr verǫld steypiz.
Mun engi mađr
ǫđrom ţyrma.



Brothers will fight
and kill each other,
sisters' children
will defile kinship.
It is harsh in the world,
whoredom rife
—an axe age, a sword age
—shields are riven—
a wind age, a wolf age—
before the world goes headlong.
No man will have
mercy on another.