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william_russellsb
Thursday, December 23rd, 2004, 01:51 PM
I cannot access to the Society for Nordish Physical Anthropology site. It seems that it does not work anymore. Is it closed or censored?

http://www.nordish.com

william_russellsb
Thursday, December 23rd, 2004, 05:00 PM
Can you access the SNPA website? I keep trying but it is still impossible.
Could someone here tell me what happened to this great site?
http://www.nordish.com

jcs
Thursday, December 23rd, 2004, 05:09 PM
I cannot get to it either.

william_russellsb
Thursday, December 23rd, 2004, 05:32 PM
Well, if it is indeed closed, we have to make as many back-up copies as possible using Google's cache snapshots. It is the best site ever made concerning the Nordish taxonomy. I am afraid the cache copy will soon disappear.

Siegfried
Thursday, December 23rd, 2004, 07:03 PM
Thank Wotan for the Way Back Machine; www.archive.org

USS Dixiecrat
Friday, December 24th, 2004, 06:18 PM
Oh poo, I can't get to it either. Bad jews, bad bad jews :annoysigr

As for getting caches from google, what should i search for? :icon1:

Loki
Friday, December 24th, 2004, 06:25 PM
I will hear from vegard what is going on.

Folkvang
Friday, December 24th, 2004, 06:43 PM
Thank Wotan for the Way Back Machine; www.archive.org

Awesome link, thanks alot

william_russellsb
Saturday, December 25th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Unfortunately, many pictures seem to be lost on the Wayback Machine. The close down of this website is really a great loss for physical anthropology. It was the best learning tool.

Stig NHF
Saturday, December 25th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Just as a small notice, the guy "Vegard" on this forum is the guy behind the site. The two leaders of NHF made and ran that site. So you might want to ask him...

william_russellsb
Sunday, December 26th, 2004, 04:20 PM
What does NHF stand for?

By the way, there is a link some of you may find useful:
How to bypass Internet Censorship?
http://nocensor.citizenlab.org (http://nocensor.citizenlab.org/)

Stig NHF
Sunday, December 26th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Norsk Hedensk Front. Just push the link below my post and you will come to our organization.

Loki
Sunday, January 2nd, 2005, 06:36 PM
I have just spoken with one of the owners of the SNPA site. We will make a plan to get it up and running again soon.... I don't think they were aware that it was down.

william_russellsb
Sunday, January 2nd, 2005, 09:16 PM
Thanks Loki. It is a relief to learn that all the precious information gathered on the nordish.com site will not disappear from the Web. The SNPA did a lot to retrieve virtually censored anthropological studies. To my opinion, the worst thing that could ever happen to us would have been the close down of this site, while so many of us need to learn more on this issue.

By the way, I think I can help them making back-up and mirror sites. I also own old anthropological manuals, and bought a reprint of Coon's "The Races of Europe". Others are not published on the SNPA and many of you could find them interesting.

Loki
Sunday, January 2nd, 2005, 11:38 PM
www.snpa.skadi.net (http://www.snpa.skadi.net)

:viking3:

william_russellsb
Thursday, January 6th, 2005, 05:10 PM
Thanks a lot! This is a great work!

vegard
Thursday, January 6th, 2005, 08:56 PM
Greetings and good riddance,

No we were not censored, and there is no reason why we should be, after all we just digitalized some books and articles available in the public library.

Anyway, a thanks to everybody for their consern, and letting us know it was down. Typically enough it had to go down in the vacation, when neither of us dealing with it were at home or with any stabile web-connection. What happened was that our server, which we had gotten for free from a long gone contact, ceased to excist. Thanks to Loki we now have it up again, so chances for something going wrong now are slim.

Regards,
Vegard

william_russellsb
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 11:14 AM
I cannot access the SNPA site (http://www.nordish.com/) at certain hours. The page is unavailable. Is the server down or is it blocked? It seems to work through a proxy though. Do you experience the same difficulties?

Naggaroth
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 03:28 PM
I cannot access the SNPA site (http://www.nordish.com/) at certain hours. The page is unavailable. Is the server down or is it blocked? It seems to work through a proxy though. Do you experience the same difficulties?


I can't either log on to that page. It may be the server that is down at the moment.

Siegfried
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 03:30 PM
I have no problem accessing the SNPA.

william_russellsb
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 03:54 PM
I wonder if there is a kind of DNS censorship. It is strange, because I can access the page indirectly through a proxy, but I cannot access it directly at certain hours. I can always access The Northern European forum. I do not understand that, I have cleaned my cache many times but it still does not work.

Zyklop
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 03:56 PM
Are you aware that SNPA has a new URL?

http://www.snpa.skadi.net/

william_russellsb
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 03:59 PM
I will have to make back-ups and mirror sites, because it does not seem normal.

william_russellsb
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Are you aware that SNPA has a new URL?Yes of course, I used it yesterday! And it still does not work though…

Siegfried
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:03 PM
Are you aware that SNPA has a new URL?

http://www.snpa.skadi.net/

I can also use the old URL: http://www.nordish.com It just redirects me.

william_russellsb
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:05 PM
It just works from time to time. It seems to depend on the routers or DNS used. I really do not like that.

william_russellsb
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:06 PM
I can also use the old URL: http://www.nordish.com (http://www.nordish.com/) It just redirects me.Yes, but it still does not work for me at the moment.

william_russellsb
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:30 PM
I only works through the anonymizer (http://www.anonymizer.com), how to explain that?

Triglav
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 10:15 PM
Yep, it only works for me via a proxy as well.

Censorship?

Loki
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 10:25 PM
How is it possible you can reach skadi.net, but not snpa.skadi.net? This doesn't seem logical to me... I also have no problems reaching it.

By the way, I have disabled "Hotlinking" - so you can't use the <img> tag on external sites for SNPA maps - only link it. But if you want, I can allow it for certain sites you require... I just want to save bandwidth.

Allenson
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 11:49 PM
Works fine for me at:

www.nordish.com

Triglav
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 12:14 AM
:icon_surp

Works now.

Didn't work before. :scratch:

william_russellsb
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 12:44 AM
I do not use the SNPA for hotlinking. I do not think it has anything to do with hotlinking. I have noticed that it is blocked during certain times of the day and works later. It is always at the same time. Many of us experience the same difficulty but others can access the site at the same moment. At this moment I can access the site, but I am pretty sure that tomorrow it will not work until a determined hour. What is very strange is that I can get the pages through a proxy. It looks much like DNS, routing censorship or something like that, blocking the access to some people during the daytime hours when networking activity is the highest in European counties. I hope I am wrong, but I find it really suspicious. I cannot see any other explanation.

NorwegianFury
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 12:52 AM
I have noticed that it is blocked during certain times of the day and works later.

I have the same problem.

william_russellsb
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 01:07 AM
You will find a mirror site of the SNPA race gallery at:
http://www.geocities.com/j0hn_ryder/main.htm (http://www.geocities.com/j0hn_ryder/main.htm)

All the descriptions of the Nordish types are on this site, but I still need to fix the links, which sometimes redirect you to the original site. Sorry for the Geocities pop-ups…

chris_
Friday, February 18th, 2005, 02:17 AM
I can not access the site through nordish.com. I think a lot of computers are set to block sites from redirecting. Maybe I link should be added to nordish.com for those that are not redirected.

DreamWalker
Monday, October 6th, 2008, 09:36 PM
I get this message when trying to visit the Society for Nordish Physical Anthropology website, any one know if they have gone away permanently, will be back soon, been hacked, have a new url, or.....?

Sorry, 'www.snpa.nordish.net' does not exist or is not available.

Æmeric
Monday, October 6th, 2008, 09:57 PM
It went offline awhile back. I guess whoever was paying the server fees decided not to anymore.:shrug

Diarmuid
Monday, October 6th, 2008, 10:00 PM
I've been wondering the same thing for a while. It's a shame too because there was a wealth of anthropological information on the site. Hopefully it will come back.

Rodskarl Dubhgall
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Is there any way to let them know that their website is a valuable resource? Are they associated with any forum?

ÆinvargR
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008, 01:28 PM
http://web.archive.org/web/20071030133103/http://nordish.com/

When you reach a page saying the page you clicked on a link to reach is not available, click on "Search other dates for your page" and I believe no page will be missing. But all the images are, unfortunately.

Chatte
Thursday, October 9th, 2008, 11:20 PM
Well the pictures are gone.
But in case the pages doesn't return, it's still in the archives.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050206021840/www.snpa.nordish.net/main.htm


You can also download it with software like WinHTTrack in case the archive blocks in one day, you will stay with the information of the texts.

Hermelin
Friday, October 10th, 2008, 10:44 AM
Don't worry, SNPA hasn't been hacked or anything. It will be back, though I cannot say for sure exactly when :)

Marcus
Saturday, October 11th, 2008, 02:48 AM
^ I heard from somwhere that they have closed for good?

Loki
Saturday, October 11th, 2008, 09:05 PM
Here is the new link to SNPA:

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/

:drcoffee

Minishcap
Friday, October 24th, 2008, 08:48 PM
Here is the new link to SNPA:

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/

:drcoffee

The glossary doesn´t seem to work, or is it just me that can´t get the glossary parts (A-L and M-Z) up?

DreamWalker
Friday, October 24th, 2008, 09:16 PM
The glossary doesn´t seem to work, or is it just me that can´t get the glossary parts (A-L and M-Z) up?
Does not work for me either, but my 'puter is kinda' twitchy

Minishcap
Friday, October 24th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Does not work for me either, but my 'puter is kinda' twitchy

Strange, hope it´s just a temporary problem, I use their glossary every day for private interest. :~(

Sigurd
Saturday, October 25th, 2008, 12:15 AM
Well, on another count - can anyone in contact with anyone involved actively with whoever owns SNPA at this point please contact me via PM? ;)

Basically, it was of course originally on the same server as The Nordish Portal - of which I was eventually IP-banned some 2 1/2 years ago in an episode I would like not to elaborate upon, but which is well known in the reaches of the net. ;)

As such, I would like to contact the owner whether access to SNPA could be granted for me, in the light of the long time passed since the original banishment, in the light of the TNP forum no longer being running but their database instead having been integrated into Skadi Forum, and several similar issues at hand ... including the fact that the entirety of the University of Aberdeen domain is thus IP-banned, and that obviously precludes up to 15,000 potentially interested persons to access SNPA from their university computers. ;)

If it's still the lad previously known as "Loki" on here in charge, then I am also willing to use a "trustworthy middle man" whom I can trust with my IP address.

Erich
Saturday, October 25th, 2008, 08:34 AM
The glossary doesn´t seem to work, or is it just me that can´t get the glossary parts (A-L and M-Z) up?

If you looked at the address of the links, you would see that the domain part of the URLs is incorrect. Here are the correct versions.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss1.htm
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/gloss2.htm


Well, on another count - can anyone in contact with anyone involved actively with whoever owns SNPA at this point please contact me via PM? ;)

There are email addresses on the site for contact.

http://www.theapricity.com/

Sigurd
Saturday, October 25th, 2008, 09:29 AM
There are email addresses on the site for contact.

http://www.theapricity.com/

Well, if you or someone else could please be so kind and PM them to me, as I get this page instead:



Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/2.2.8 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.7a mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at www.theapricity.com Port 80

Erich
Saturday, October 25th, 2008, 09:33 AM
iStaff [at] nordish [dot] com
snpa-complaints [at] hotmail [dot] com

I guess it's an Apache server error on their end.

Loki
Saturday, October 25th, 2008, 06:12 PM
You must have been a naughty boy to get such an extreme IP ban.

;)


iStaff [at] nordish [dot] com
snpa-complaints [at] hotmail [dot] com

I guess it's an Apache server error on their end.

Those email addresses won't help you much, they're not used anymore.