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Athalwulf
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:24 PM
For about two years, I've attempted to go back to ancient pagan roots and be "natural". I don't use sunscreen, I don't take any chemical medication (I only take medication that can be found in nature), I only use home-made natural soaps, I shave with knives or razor blades, and I try to eat foods that don't have any chemicals in them. The things that I do that don't fit into the category of "natural" are using a computer, listening to music, watching TV, brushing my teeth with toothpaste, going to school, etc., all the normal stuff that everyone more or less has to do or can not control at some point.

Does anyone else have a somewhat similar lifestyle?

Siebenbürgerin
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:33 PM
I don't like to eat food with many chemicals in it or instant food. I buy meat from the local market from peasants which grow the animals in their yards, same with vegetables and we have a garden where we grow some of our own too. I knit. I love to knit, and I also like the knitted winter clothes better than from shops because they keep you warmer. Now the shops just sell fashionable clothes with models and some keep your back uncovered which isn't good for the winter. Sometimes I wash my hair with home made soap and vinegar because it makes it shiny and protects against dandruff. On medication, my father is a doctor, so when I look sick, he always tells me to take this and that medication. I don't dye my hair. Does that count as natural? Hmm, I don't think always natural = best, but using natural things is many times a good thing.

Hrodnand
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:37 PM
Yes, I do. I try to consume natural food mostly and I also try to avoid medicine. In the past 3-4 years I didn't take any pill or medicine. I mostly try to cure myself with herbs or natural ways, for example at scars that are not deep I use honey instead of alcohol. Due to its great amount of vitamins I did notice that skin regenerates faster than when you use pure alcohol. I also use herbs when I wash my hair though I combine it with shampoo and conditioner that has most natural elements and least chemicals.
But of course I also use a computer, take the bus if I have to travel for a long distance, etc, but natural ways are essential to me.

Soten
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:38 PM
I have a real aversion to taking medications (unless of course I was really really sick I suppose). Mostly I dislike the idea of taking Tylenol, Advil, or Benadryl. Any of those medicines that for the most part just mask the symptoms of the headache or cold or what have you. For whatever reason I have the idea that they probably do more damage than it's worth if you're not really curing any problem.

QuietWind
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:46 PM
The things that I do that don't fit into the category of "natural" are using a computer, listening to music, watching TV, brushing my teeth with toothpaste, going to school, etc., all the normal stuff that everyone more or less has to do or can not control at some point.


Have you ever tried products (like toothpaste) such as Tom's of Maine (http://www.tomsofmaine.com/)?

Most of the things we do in our home are "natural" as well.

Athalwulf
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:49 PM
It's a relief to see that I'm not the only person with views like these. :)

I haven't taken any artificial/chemical medication for 2 years and I feel great physically and mentally. For 2 years I've been eating meats and fruits (no vegetables for me, since I'm allergic to 90% of them) straight from the wilderness and drink mainly water, while occasionally drinking some fruit juice or a fermented beverage like mead or beer. I've only been sick once since then, and it was because I ate some really greasy microwave meal and got food poisoning. I guess my body wasn't used to the unnatural ingredients.

Some people may think this is weird, but I try to be as close as possible to Germanic peoples of old (vikings, Saxons, Roman-era Germanics, etc.) in the way they lived.

Athalwulf
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Have you ever tried products (like toothpaste) such as Tom's of Maine (http://www.tomsofmaine.com/)?

Most of the things we do in our home are "natural" as well.

To be honest I've never looked up a natural brand of toothpaste, but I may have to get some now.

Siebenbürgerin
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:51 PM
I'm paranoid about medication too. I always remember how our biology teacher would say the organism becomes imune to some medication like Aspirin or Paracetamol which doesn't work to cure the flu faster or something along those lines. She gave an example, today, if you have a cold and you take Aspirin, it goes away in a week. If you have a cold and don't take Aspirin, it goes away in a week too. So, don't take Aspirin. :P My father insists that I take vitamins because I'm "getting skinny" while my mother is more into the natural ways. When I'm sick with the throat she makes me some tea with honey, while my father says "just take a Strepsils".

I like to buy some magasines which give advice how to make facial masks from natural ingredients. Not just because it's cheaper than Loreal or Garnier, but the face skin really comes out nicer afterwards. My colleagues who use Loreal, Garnier, Clearasil and other products still get pimples after they use them. :P

Oh, on teeth brushing. I sometimes brush my teeth with salt. This is how the old peasants used to do. It stings, but the result is amasing. I never got such white shiny teeth with Colgate Whitening and other toothpastes which they say they make your teeth very white.

Athalwulf
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:54 PM
My colleagues who use Loreal, Garnier, Clearasil and other products still get pimples after they use them. :P

I get pimples when I try to clean my face, so I just don't. Occasionally I'll get one or two, but they're easy to pop and I don't get any marks left behind.

Psychonaut
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:55 PM
I don't use sunscreen

Natural or not, using sunscreen is preferable to getting skin cancer. Quite a few of my fair skinned family members have had to deal with skin cancer as a result of sun bathing. It is a very real risk for NW Europeans and one that shouldn't be brushed aside in order to be more 'natural.'

Hrodnand
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 08:57 PM
I get pimples when I try to clean my face, so I just don't. Occasionally I'll get one or two, but they're easy to pop and I don't get any marks left behind.

Try natural chamomile tea when you wash your face. It calms the skin and also has a sterilizing effect.

Athalwulf
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 09:05 PM
Natural or not, using sunscreen is preferable to getting skin cancer. Quite a few of my fair skinned family members have had to deal with skin cancer as a result of sun bathing. It is a very real risk for NW Europeans and one that shouldn't be brushed aside in order to be more 'natural.'

I never "sunbathe". Whenever I am in the sun I am working, exploring the wilderness, hunting, or playing a sport. I never purposely lay out in the sun, and I only expose myself the the sun when it is necessary. If I'm worried about getting burned, I'll cover my skin with a clothing or a head covering.


Try natural chamomile tea when you wash your face. It calms the skin and also has a sterilizing effect.

I'll have to try that some time.

Psychonaut
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 09:07 PM
I never "sunbathe". Whenever I am in the sun I am working, exploring the wilderness, hunting, or playing a sport. I never purposely lay out in the sun, and I only expose myself the the sun when it is necessary. If I'm worried about getting burned, I'll cover my skin with a clothing or a head covering.

Hey, it's your skin. If you prefer to run the risk of getting skin cancer instead of using sunscreen, that's your choice. But, I'd never recommend or sanction that train of thought to anyone I have influence over.

Athalwulf
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 09:12 PM
But, I'd never recommend or sanction that train of thought to anyone I have influence over.

I don't have any plans of influencing others to do what I do. Everyone else I know uses sunscreen, it's just my personal choice not to.

Deary
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 09:13 PM
I never "sunbathe". Whenever I am in the sun I am working, exploring the wilderness, hunting, or playing a sport. I never purposely lay out in the sun, and I only expose myself the the sun when it is necessary. If I'm worried about getting burned, I'll cover my skin with a clothing or a head covering.

Just because you don't attempt to bake yourself like a potato does not mean you're not at risk. A mere couple hours of exposure a day can amount to plenty more damage in the longrun than you might have imagined. Play it safe and wear some sunscreen, at least to cover the parts which you can't by clothing. There are brands on the market which aren't loaded with chemicals. Try the organic food stores.

Hrodnand
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 09:17 PM
I think it depends on more than just one factor: the period of the day, the place where you stay mostly(shady or more exposed to the sun) and also the part of your body which is exposed.(Your shoulders get burned easier than your arms.)
However I don't use sunscreen either, I agree that the skin must be treated with care.

Leonhardt
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 09:17 PM
Does anyone else have a somewhat similar lifestyle?

I use Tom's of Maine toothpaste, and I think it has helped a little. Since the skin is semi-porous, I try to limit what I put on my skin. I only get a farmer tan when driving.
However, I have not gone so far as to take showers with non-chlorinated water, and I still eat from plastic containers. When I have a choice, I drink from a glass bottle.
Processed foods have quite a few chemicals in them, you can search at Rense. For example, if I am purchasing frozen chicken, I like for the package to say chicken and nothing else.
Sometimes I look at it as my excuse for not using lawn fertilizers, or some household cleaning chemicals.
The only ways I have reduced exposure to electrical radiation is by not using my electric blanket anymore, and by using a headset for the mobile phone. I still use a microwave, computer, and tv.
I have been on and off with drinking green tea.

Athalwulf
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 09:29 PM
I think it depends on more than just one factor: the period of the day, the place where you stay mostly(shady or more exposed to the sun) and also the part of your body which is exposed.(Your shoulders get burned easier than your arms.)
However I don't use sunscreen either, I agree that the skin must be treated with care.

I always have my shoulders, back, and chest covered. The only parts of my body that are exposed are my forearms, hands, and head. I'm also never in the sun for long periods of time, and when I'm resting I sit in the shade.



I use Tom's of Maine toothpaste, and I think it has helped a little. Since the skin is semi-porous, I try to limit what I put on my skin. I only get a farmer tan when driving.
However, I have not gone so far as to take showers with non-chlorinated water, and I still eat from plastic containers. When I have a choice, I drink from a glass bottle.
Processed foods have quite a few chemicals in them, you can search at Rense. For example, if I am purchasing frozen chicken, I like for the package to say chicken and nothing else.
Sometimes I look at it as my excuse for not using lawn fertilizers, or some household cleaning chemicals.
The only ways I have reduced exposure to electrical radiation is by not using my electric blanket anymore, and by using a headset for the mobile phone. I still use a microwave, computer, and tv.
I have been on and off with drinking green tea.

I don't take showers with non-chlorinated water either, and I don't feel the need to cease using plastic containers.

Leonhardt
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 09:44 PM
I don't use the Caveman diet myself, but I think it is something good to think about. It does not necessarily contain what you think it would.


INTRODUCTION TO THE PALEOLITHIC DIET
by Dr. Ben Balzer, family physician
http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html

http://paleodiet.com/

Freydis
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 09:48 PM
The chemical products that I use the most are shampoo and conditioner (formulated for blonde hair, apparently, and also to give moisture to the hair) and sunscreen. If I don't wear sunscreen and I expose myself for even less than an hour my skin becomes burnt. And it hurts. I would rather have sunscreen on than not.

I guess also I ocassionally wear makeup and use moisturiser.

When I'm sick I drink tea and eat honey. I don't really take pills.

I never really buy prepackaged food (sometimes i buy biscuits, but usually from the bakery)... I cook most things.

I ride my bicycle everywhere.

Siebenbürgerin
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 10:02 PM
I found a recipe for homemade shampoo and conditioner.

You need:
1 empty bottle
3 cups of soap flakes (which you can get almost anywhere)
Water
Essential Oil of Lavender
Essential Oil of Rosemary

Directions:
Mix the soap flakes with the water and then add 4 drops of each oil.

For conditioner, the ingredients are probably already in your house.

You need:
1 empty bottle
1 egg yolk
1 teaspoon of baby oil
Water

Directions:
Mix the above ingredients together and you're good to go!

Here the source:
http://planetgreen.discovery.com/fashion-beauty/green-shampoo.html

I haven't tried it out obviously, so proceed at your own risk if you will. ;)

Athalwulf
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 10:17 PM
All I need from that list is soap flakes and 2 empty bottles.

mischak
Sunday, October 5th, 2008, 10:50 PM
No, not really. Right now I'm eating Doritos and drinking Diet Coke.

rainman
Thursday, October 9th, 2008, 06:40 PM
If you eat food from the store you are poisoning yourself. You'd have to have a whole sub-culture to really live healthy. A totally different way of life.

CrystalRose
Friday, October 10th, 2008, 12:21 AM
Whenever I feel like a cold might be coming on I increase the vitamin C, that usually always works for me. Aromatherapy is my best friend. Eucalyptus and peppermint for congestion or stuffy nose, chamomile or lavender if I need a good nights rest. Just a couple drops onto tissue paper and in the pillow case in goes. Or a couple drops into unscented lotion. My favorite is fig and lavender. I find eating 'fresh' fruits, veggies, meats to be 'natural' rather than instant/frozen foods you find in the store. I do have instant oatmeal/fruit in my purse so I’m not tempted to eat junk when I'm out n about. :P When I eat healthier I find that my body thanks me. Cleaning products to a minimum.. I'll shake a few drops of eucalyptus, citrus, peppermint oils to help to kill fungi and bacteria. All you need is a water bottle to blend them in. If I could I would grow my own veggies that way I know they aren’t chemically treated. Eventually I’ll have my own garden. :D Speaking of sun exposure, they have moisturizers/make-up with SPF, UVB, UVA protection. Or wear a sun hat.

Athalwulf
Friday, October 10th, 2008, 12:56 AM
My mother grows vegetables in her garden but I'm allergic to 90% of vegetables. I'm not allergic to corn or tomatoes though, neither of which she grows.

NormanBlood
Friday, October 10th, 2008, 01:27 AM
I have been living this way for many years now, though mostly it has to do with the foods I eat and general consumption. My family is mostly made up of farmers so it was not difficult for me when living at home to get eggs, vegetables and such from family members. Meat and milk and other such things often obtained from farmer's markets or farmer's shops. Now I get my foods from similar shops since I'm no longer near family.

I haven't drank soft drinks or eaten fast food and such things for years now, and I think it has been quite beneficial, plus gives the feeling of being more connected with myself and surroundings. Personally, I'd think myself an absolute hypocrite to hold a worldview such as my own, then turn around and eat junk. Neither good for the body, nor the mind.

solar invictus
Sunday, October 12th, 2008, 06:41 AM
The things you describe are similar to the way I organize my more 'basic habits' although I’m not sure about using the word 'natural'... it just seems like a better idea.

I have a mainly vegetarian diet. Okay, if I caught a fish I’d probably eat it but I haven't done that since I was a child... I have a small garden but hopefully I’ll be moving out of the suburbs soon so I can have a stab at a larger vege patch with more variety, as well as fruit trees and probably a few chickens for eggs. Beans and rice/pasta are quite necessary it seems. I drink only milk, water, tea, Canadian club whiskey and pretty much any beer there is, although soon I will start brewing my own.

I use 'smokers' brand toothpaste as it doesn't contain fluoride. I haven't tried this, but apparently baking soda and 'stevia', which is a potent sugar flavoured plant that can be made into a powder, used just for flavoring can be a very good method of oral hygiene. (If anyone is seriously interested I can dig up my resource on this to find out the baking soda: stevia ratio)

I use 'regular' cleaning products for hair/body washing but maybe i'll try some of the other methods discussed here. I seem to never get sick so I never have had any need to use modern medicine. But if I did need something, I would prefer not, which is fine since my sister is an herbalist and can prescribe me various things according to need.

Rainraven
Sunday, October 12th, 2008, 09:02 AM
As a student money concerns often stand in the way of taking a natural approach to cooking and cleaning. Most often we have to get the cheapest cleaners and frozen veges as they last longer and cost less. But next year when I move into a different flat we do have plans to make a small vege garden out back :)

Dorpmuller
Saturday, November 8th, 2008, 04:30 PM
Eat as much whole food as I can... especially after the dr. told me my cholesterol was >300! Party over-now time to eat like a National Socialist should! Lost 20 lbs. in the 1st 2 months.

Also a big time gardener in the warm months.

Rich

Athalwulf
Saturday, November 8th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Eat as much whole food as I can... especially after the dr. told me my cholesterol was >300! Party over-now time to eat like a National Socialist should! Lost 20 lbs. in the 1st 2 months.

Also a big time gardener in the warm months.

Rich

What does Nationalsocialism have to do with food?

Deary
Saturday, November 8th, 2008, 10:56 PM
The German National Socialists worked to promote good eating and fitness as being essential to the physical and mental betterment of the people. A nation full of healthy, happy citizens will no doubt see more productivity, and therefore, cohesion and strength.

Thusnelda
Sunday, November 9th, 2008, 03:10 PM
For about two years, I've attempted to go back to ancient pagan roots and be "natural". I don't use sunscreen, I don't take any chemical medication (I only take medication that can be found in nature), I only use home-made natural soaps, I shave with knives or razor blades, and I try to eat foods that don't have any chemicals in them.

Does anyone else have a somewhat similar lifestyle?

Yes indeed, I also try to live a little bit more according to old traditions and more natural as long as it´s possible without being disadvantaged in daily life. :)

As others already said I buy my meat, fruits and vegetables at local shops where I know that everything is pure and not mixed with chemicals. I´m lucky that my family has good relationships to local farmers and butchers, so the quality of our food is always excellent. We try to evade industrial food under all circumstances but sometimes it´s simply impossible.

The only body-creme I use is Nivea to strenghten my skin and to add moisture. During winter time I need a lip salve from time to time because my lips would become dry and crisp otherwise - especially if I´m on the way outside with all the cold and wind. (Going Skiing without lip salve, well...I could pull off my whole labial afterwards! :D *g* )

I´ve abandoned shaving body hairs (exception axillary hairs and legs in summer) some years ago because I find it a hysterical modern trend, an exaggerated ideal with it´s roots in near-east and in desert religions like Islam. :| The objections of "lack of hygienics" are unreasonable.

I oppose piercings and tattoos, too, and I use medicines only if really needed. If I have a cold or a migraine I try to come trough without any medicamentation besides natural teas and other useful practices from grandmothers times. :) On the other hand I visit my doctor regularly for routine examination and preventive medical examination.
I´ve got only those vaccinations I´ve received in my childhood-time. The only exception here is the tick-vaccination I update regularly because I´m often in nature and the woods, and so I´m getting bitten by ticks quite regularly...*sighs* It would be a too big risk for me to go out into local nature without tick-vaccination. I don´t want to end up with Lyme disease or something like that. That´s a compromise I have to make in my attempt to life more natural.

My clothings are normal and casual because it would lead to negative consequences and impressions if I´d show up with medivial-orientated clothings! :D And, honestly, I find modern wear more comfortable and neat.

"Tradition is not the worship of the ashes but the passing of the fire"

This is my personal ideal of preservation, and so I think it makes no sense to wear medivial or ancient clothes only for the sake of wearing ancient clothes. Not everything I do or think must be seen or recognized by others. For the general public I just look like an average 23-year old female. But those who know me better are among the people I care. :)

Athalwulf
Sunday, November 9th, 2008, 04:16 PM
The German National Socialists worked to promote good eating and fitness as being essential to the physical and mental betterment of the people. A nation full of healthy, happy citizens will no doubt see more productivity, and therefore, cohesion and strength.

Yes, but don't all societies do that? Of course some do worse jobs than others.

To my knowledge their was no Mein Kampf of food telling German citizens what to eat to become a perfect "Aryan".

Morning Wolf
Sunday, November 9th, 2008, 04:49 PM
I don't take any modern medication unless I have no other choice. Chamomile tea with lemon and honey is way better. The last time I took any pills was after my hernia operation, but only IB Profin for a few days instead of the nasty vicadin that they where trying to force on me. Almost everyone in my family responds very poorly to vicadin and other strong pain pills, so much that we prefer to just tough it out than endure intense nausea.

Deary
Sunday, November 9th, 2008, 06:06 PM
Yes, but don't all societies do that? Of course some do worse jobs than others.

To my knowledge their was no Mein Kampf of food telling German citizens what to eat to become a perfect "Aryan".

Public healthcare was one of the top priorities of German National Socialism and the government became very involved by enforcing many policies (especially in the schools) in concern for the wellbeing of its citizens. Numerous medical discoveries were made because of that focus, some of which other countries found much later. The promotion of healthy eating and exercise, whole grain, juice, fruit and vegetable consumption and condemnation of fats, tobacco, alcohol, etc. was all tied in to the strife for purity and superiority which was the basis for nearly all of the efforts of German National Socialism. Citizens were very much expected to do their part by taking the best of care of themselves. I imagine anyone who identifies as a National Socialist tries to live up to those standards.

Schmetterling
Sunday, November 9th, 2008, 06:29 PM
Yes and no, I alternate natural with artificial. I don't think natural for the sake of natural is a good idea in itself. If you want to live exactly like your ancestors did, you'd have to bathe once a week only and do other disgusting things like wipe your behind with tree bark or leaves. :| I avoid supermarket food because it's full of chemicals which are bad for the body and because animal cruelty is involved, not because it's not natural. I use sunscreen to protect my skin in summer. If I wandered around the natural way, I'd get sunburnt. I use face and hand cream because I have a sensitive skin and I am predisposed to rashes and irritation. I don't care that it's not natural, it's beneficial for me, that's what I care about.

Cuchulain
Thursday, November 13th, 2008, 03:56 AM
I don't really believe that a lot of things that people consider unnatural (i.e. modern drugs) are really unnatural, because they exist as the result of human beings manipulating their environment to suit them, which is a defining characteristic of human nature in the first place. That said, i do tend to avoid a lot of them because i usually believe there is something else that i can substitute that i can trust more.

Cythraul
Thursday, November 13th, 2008, 09:15 AM
I oppose piercings and tattoos, too
Did I miss something? What's unnatural about piercings and tattoos? I suppose it depends on what level of primitivism you're idealising, but our ancestors had both tattoos and piercings.

I suppose I subconsciously strive to live 'naturally'. The reason I don't eat meat and dairy is because I strongly oppose factory farming. Almost all of my vegetables are brought directly from an organic farm. I never eat fast-food. I almost never take medicine (don't really find that paracetomol etc works). I use fluoride-free toothpaste made from natural ingredients. I hate it when my girlfriend uses loads of moisturisers and hair-care products. The way I see it - nature didn't design us to require these things, she takes care of our hair and skin through good health and by design. I always opt for wood and metal over plastic and don't buy bags full of plastic-wrapped food every lunchtime at work. All small things that come naturally rather than me putting much conscious effort into.

Kriemhild
Sunday, February 8th, 2009, 09:07 PM
I make some conscious effort toward being "natural." Most of the food I eat is either homegrown, grown locally on organic farms, or bought organic from a "specialty" store like Whole Foods. I try to stay away from conventionally-grown fruits and vegetables. Same goes for meats and dairy products - I don't eat anything from the big commercial names, maybe with the exception of ice cream.

As for hair products and such, I try to buy the most natural, chemical-free brands and use the least that I can. Thankfully my hair is completely straight and easy to manage, so I don't use hairspray or gel or anything similar. I use moisturizer and sunscreen on my skin but that's mostly the extent of that. The only thing I'm bad with is makeup - I buy from the big brands, i.e. Maybelline, Chanel, etc. but I don't wear a lot of it.

I rarely take medicine like aspirin or naproxen sodium (unless it's that wonderful time of the month and I'm feeling particularly crappy). I also like to spend lots of time outdoors but I have class for 5 hours every weekday, so that's mostly cut back during the semester.

Apart from that, I'm pretty modern in the way I live. I drive to school every day and buy conventionally-made clothing.

FriggasSpindle
Tuesday, February 10th, 2009, 05:28 PM
I belong to the Weston A. Price Foundation. It's a non profit, where the main message is to eat, and enjoy the natural food products that humans have evolved with over the last several thousand years. I drink whole, raw milk, and I soak my oatmeal and beans before I cook them to neutralize the anti-nutrients that are in whole grains and legumes. I raise Highland Cattle, and last month slaughtered a yearling bull calf for our personal use. I avoid soy, fluoride, maragrine,and other processed foods as much as possible. I also make bone broth every couple of weeks, and use it to make soups, and add it to other recipes like pot roast, and rice dishes. I feel much healthier. I used to be plagued with chronic nausea when I ate processed food every day, but since I've been eating better, I have noticed drastic improvement. If anyone is interested in the website, here is the link:

http://westonaprice.org/

Hope you find it useful. :)

Vindefense
Tuesday, February 10th, 2009, 06:16 PM
To be natural, one has to stop and take in ones environment. There are examples all around us as to how living in the natural text of things can better our lives, but often we ignore them. The social decay of our people is the outcome of this, and instead of wholeness, we are assaulted with white noise and "entertainment", which is the true illusion.

We evacuated ourselves from the busy, life of the city to escape that illusion so we could raise a family in natural surroundings. Some of the things in the last 10 years I have done to support a more natural way of life are

Learning to hunt for meat and edible plants. From the moment I release my bow, to the preparation of the meat, the value you get out in nutrition is comparable to what you put into obtaining it.

Growing our own fruits and veges. Again the above principle is evident in the fact that vegetables always taste better from your garden. Coincidence?

We strive to furnish our home with only natural materials, wood, stone, iron, etc. These raw materials have an effect on the environment and mood of our dwelling. Wood and stone are the most profound to us.

We make it a point to never deny our sons the freedom of exploring the outside. They find endless entertainment in the hilly woods surrounding our home. Grounding children from the outdoors is to deny them discovery.

We drink our well water. Though some frown upon drinking from our spring fed well, it has never left us sick, and is far superior in taste to bottled or tap water. How can man improve upon Nature?

These are a few things that we have done, it is also good to support your local economy, and buy natural soaps, and, if you must smoke, use a pipe and pipe tobacco rather than cigarettes. By doing these things we have found we live with less stress and the little things in life are more meaningful to us. No TV for 9 years=2 bright, wild eyed boys.

Wulfric
Wednesday, February 11th, 2009, 01:13 AM
No, I don't make much of an effort, it is hard to do so living in a large city like mine. My family mostly eats store-bought goods, although we did have a few veges we ate that we grew ourselves. When I get older I'd like to move to a rural area and live a more natural lifestyle. Probably somewhere in the Northeast, my family had lived there since 1600 until the past 2 generations.

TheGreatest
Thursday, February 12th, 2009, 12:33 PM
For about two years, I've attempted to go back to ancient pagan roots and be "natural". I don't use sunscreen, I don't take any chemical medication (I only take medication that can be found in nature), I only use home-made natural soaps, I shave with knives or razor blades, and I try to eat foods that don't have any chemicals in them. The things that I do that don't fit into the category of "natural" are using a computer, listening to music, watching TV, brushing my teeth with toothpaste, going to school, etc., all the normal stuff that everyone more or less has to do or can not control at some point.

Does anyone else have a somewhat similar lifestyle?


I wish I could write a response but each time I do it turns into a rant about the evils of capitalism.

Hrodnand
Friday, February 13th, 2009, 12:37 AM
if you must smoke, use a pipe and pipe tobacco rather than cigarettes.

Isn't pipe tobacco stronger and more damaging to the lungs than cigarettes? I mean, I've never tried either of them - I'm just curious.

Vindefense
Sunday, February 15th, 2009, 05:20 PM
Isn't pipe tobacco stronger and more damaging to the lungs than cigarettes? I mean, I've never tried either of them - I'm just curious.
I think that is a general misconception, unless you smoke it in excess. Tobacco, though in general is not overtly addictive. Cigarettes are purposely treated with additives that are what I would consider super addictive. Thus the possibility of moderation is extremely difficult for most cigarette smokers. This keeps profits high in the industry at the expense of health. I know many people who smoke these things, and they have a hard time quitting, and it is because of the chemical addiction not because they like them.

I only smoke bulk tobacco, and it is mainly free of additives. I have smoked a pipe for over 10 years. I do so in moderation. If I go through spells where I smoke excessively (which is seldom) it is because I enjoy the blend that I am smoking and not because some company introduced super addictive additives to it. Moderation then is the key. In its natural form, tobacco can be enjoyed in moderation. Cigarettes on the other hand are designed and marketed to be used in excess, to hook you on the non natural additives. So if you have to smoke I think it is better to use pipe tobacco.

Siebenbürgerin
Thursday, May 28th, 2009, 01:06 PM
I noticed an old habit of the peasants from years ago: clearing the hair after wash, with some hot water mixed with a spoonful of vinegar. The smell doesn't remain noticeable in the hair after the wash and it helps to fight against dandruff. For a natural conditioner, egg yolk does the trick.

queenammer
Friday, March 12th, 2010, 05:00 AM
Okay.... when I first read this title... I thought I tried not to shave my legs for the winter.... But I see that is not the "natural" you were talking about.

I had migraines really bad a quite a few years ago and I realized that what was causing my migraines was all the non-natural or chemicals in the foods I was eating. So... I have tried to become natural as I can get.

I use unbleached whole wheat flour. I have gotten down to very few store bought processed food. I try to make everything myself. I buy organic when I can and eat mostly fruits and vegetables. I am unable to eat nitrates and it is very hard around here to find sausages or cured meats that don't have nitrates in them or they cost alot.

For all you women, one of the breast cancer causing chemicals are in the anti perspirants in your deodrants. It was a change that took a little bit for me to get use to.

warm wishes...

xamarth
Sunday, June 13th, 2010, 03:35 PM
A worthy thread that I'm glad I've found.

I make natural to be a very important part of my life. Natural to me means the way it should be and that's partly why I call myself heathen... I'm for nature and being connected to it as much as possible. Let's see, this is what I do to be natural:


I never take medication unless its vital to my survival, not even a headache pill. It kind of grosses me out. The only pills I take are vitamins and that's only when I remember too.

I always look at the ingredients in my food and try to avoid chemical elements as much as possible though it is hard to avoid preservatives in this day and age. I stick to the principle that I read in a health column once: if it didn't exist 200 years ago don't eat it.

My clothing is all 100% cotton or wool or leather or linen. I tend to avoid polyester/nylons in my clothing. The only exceptions are my band shirts (which have that plastic print on) and my gym shorts (easier to keep clean)

Regarding vegetables... my place I live is an apartment complex so I have no garden. I do shop for my fruit and vegetables at a "farmer's market" type place here. Its a branch chain in my country but the products come straight from the farm to the various outlets and don't come with packaging or such thing on, you have to pick your produce out yourself.

Bread... I buy the 100% rye stuff. Don't know if that counts.

Soaps/shampoo, etc... I'm a student so its expensive to buy the natural stuff, and I do use under-arm roll-on. Perhaps this is the part where I am most unnatural.

Thanks though to all you people in this thread, I've gotten some good insight.

Sindig_og_stoisk
Wednesday, June 23rd, 2010, 05:53 PM
Natural? Why yes, I have a great number of excentric ideas and lifestyle choices that could be classified as "natural", but which I also consider to be "minimalistic".

For example, prior to moving in with my girlfriend, I barely owned any furniture. A desk, a lamp and a futon. My dormitory room was equipped with an in-built book shelf, which housed all my books and DVD's.
It is a conscious effort on my part to only own things that I actually need and to throw out things that are no longer used. This also makes cleaning and tidying up a lot easier. It has gotten to the point where rooms with too much stuff in them saddens me and confuses me.

I never have any heating on. Instead I put on a pair of wollen socks and spend my time in the communal rooms.
I minimise my showers and only use shower gel. Hair wash causes my hair to dry out and dandruff to break out. In fact, all my toilet articles could fit on one shelf. I rarely cut or shave any hairs. I proudly carry a full beard which I trim a little when my girlfriend protests too much;)

When shopping for groceries, I adamantly refuse to buy or eat anything that contains "aroma" (a industry code word for "perfume", highly allergenic) or additives that are added for the sake of taste. These merely hide the poor quality of the products. I would prefer fasting to eating such "foods". Other then that, I am forced to compromise on certain other additives.
I never eat processed food or five minutes meals, but cook my own food from scratch. My diet is blend and repetitive, but nutrious and healthy.
I will seek out and buy organically grown alternatives even if these cost more. As I see it, it is a matter of prioritizing your mony. Is binge drinking every weekend and subsisting on poor quality food really worth it?

As for clothing, I used to be able to "inherit" some of my brothers clothing, because he replaced his wardrobe every few months to keep pace with the fashion. Now I buy my own clothes, but only every few months or when I need something. For example, you need a pair of boots in the winter. Wearing your summer sneakers is a sign of stupidity, not frugality. I only throw out clothes that cannot be repaired, never to the whims of fashion.
I never take any medicin, but that is because I have no condition requiring it. If you suffer from a condition, if possible strive to eliminate the causes behind it, but untill that glorious day, take the medicine your doctor suggests. I refuse to take pain killers, anti-nausea pills, sleeping pills and such, but take vitamine pills and apply anti-dandruf and anti-eczema gels.

When exercising, I go for long walks instead of running, and train with free weigths, a kettlebell and a pullup bar. People are frequently amazed that I have trained for so many years and are so fit, but I do not know how to use any machines. I have never set foot in a gym.
I play a game with my self, trying to see how many days I can go without spending money on anything. I apply the "30-days test" on every major purchase(Wait 30 days between wanting something and buying it) and frequently decide that I would rather have that extra money in my savings account and that I do not really need such and such an item.

Many characterise my lifestyle as odd (and they probably call it worse things behind my back), but I am happy with it. I am never short on cash, because I only spent it when needed.
I am healthy and fit, doing all the things I want to do in my life. And every once in a while, I must admit that I catch myself thinking that the world would be a better place if more people did what I do.:)

I am far from perfect in all regards. For starters, I do occasionally eat junk food and still drink more then I like to face up to the day after, but life, in my opinion, is a quest of self-improvement, which is a very natural thing to me.

Valbiorn
Sunday, July 4th, 2010, 01:40 PM
We have always ONLY heated with wood; have our own well and try to grow as much of our own food as we can. Buy Organic or unprocessed foods when we can. Don't watch TV. Smoked a pipe on/off most of my life - one does not normally inhale pipe tobacco, and the pipe introduces a whole new world of
possibilities - smoking blends - 'rauchkräuter' ! Almost any plant can be smoked once dried, (provided it is legal and not too poisonous), straight or blended.
However, one must become a bit of an herbalist first, caution is needed along with an understanding and respect for the nature and spirit of the plant.

Víðálfr
Sunday, July 4th, 2010, 04:06 PM
Yes, since as far I can remember. And, of course, more intensely since I've been able to take and stick to my own decisions.

Medications, I mean pills and other stuff like that... no, thanks! I've had some, at some points in time, and it was enough to make me aware they are of no good. Really not. There are natural means, for anything, so I prefer them.

Food... well, I try to avoid processed food, and also any kind of chemicals. Especially the "aroma" stuff. But that's not always possible. I sometimes still crave for some sweets, for example... so I still have to improve on that. However, I prefer to eat as much as possible the natural way, and I'm also a vegetarian. The way I eat seems very strange to some others, but I just don't care, I do it my own way. And I feel very good. :D

Clothes... I use natural materials, like cotton, as much as possible. Especially for the clothes that stay closer to the skin. I just can't stand synthetic materials close to my skin. There are some exceptions, for high technology sport clothes, with special features, like keeping your skin dry when hiking, or stuff like that, but that's just for special occasions.

I also don't watch TV. I don't need it. And I avoid it. I get all the news I need to get from others, or I just hear them on the radio in the buses or so. I use internet and computer, but that's it, it's kind of necessary these days... :P

Toothpaste... I use a 100% (or 98%) natural toothpaste, without fluorides, and also natural sea salt.

Perfumes... I really can't stand artificial perfumes, and if I have to refresh the air in the room I just use essential oils. They are 100% natural, and they can also be used in therapeutic purposes. ;)

Since I was little I was interested in a natural way of life, and it's really interesting to study more on this. You learn a lot about nature, and also about how to keep yourself healthy. Being healthy means to live according to the ways of nature. If a disease or illness occurs, it means there's a problem somewhere, in your way of life or thinking. Taking pills won't solve anything, maybe just covering some superficial symptoms. Illnesses are to learn us something.

And... my latest interest is the cromotherapy. The colours ar just fantastic. :D

Ullrson
Sunday, July 4th, 2010, 04:13 PM
I don't take pain killers of any type, this isn't really a choice though because most of my family and I either don't receive any effect or we have extreme nausea. I also prefer tea, honey and hot steam over cough/congestion medicines.

Reshki
Sunday, July 18th, 2010, 08:44 PM
I'd really like to live a more natural life.

I'm just starting to learn how, and certain things I'll never be free of due to some medical problems.

Freyr Filosofer
Monday, July 19th, 2010, 12:16 AM
I think it's important to live naturally, but just because something is technologically advanced doesn't necessarily make it unnatural. Technology can be a good thing :thumbup

Northern Paladin
Monday, August 23rd, 2010, 03:41 AM
I do, I eat mostly organic, I avoid processed food as much as I can, I shun all medical chemicals such as pharmaceuticals and vaccinations, I shun lawn chemicals and if my neighbors use them I have a fit. I visit nature regularly, whenever I can I escape the big city.

I say, anything that our bodies were not designed to handle (i.e. anything unnatural) is bound to have an adverse effect.

tomtom
Tuesday, August 24th, 2010, 07:33 AM
I have a vegetable garden where I grow my own vegetables. I also grow lemons, avocados, pomegrantes, as well as numerous flowers. All the women folk(going as far back as my great grandparents) did. My father had a green thumb as well. He won awards for his horticulture skills.

Wynterwade
Wednesday, September 1st, 2010, 03:49 AM
I'm a Vegan.

Aeternitas
Monday, January 10th, 2011, 05:29 AM
I too prefer natural products often, but not necessarily for ideological reasons. I don't try to emulate my ancestors' habits 100%. Some habits were good, others less so. So I basically try to keep a balance between healthy and enjoyable.

When it comes to sunscreen for example, eventhough it may not be "natural", I use it because otherwise I'd get skin problems. The same goes for body lotions. I have sensitive skin which requires special and extra care. Should I forego applying body lotion after a shower, I can live with it. Should I forego it a second time, my skin will become dry, irritated and itchy, the same goes for not applying cream after washing my hands. I do prefer products with as many natural ingredients as possible though.

This also applies to food. Although I have to admit fast/junk food can be pretty enjoyable, if I keep a diet consisting of exclusively pizza, hamburgers, French fries, Coke and so on, after some days I will feel sick, full and dehydrated, so I'll have to change it to an exclusively veggie and fruit diet. Vegetables and fruits are part of my daily meals and I will often snack on apples, nectarines, pears, oranges or bananas at work.

I find that farm products (garden veggies, fruit, bread, etc.) taste much better than supermarket stuff, especially the fist two, whose supermarket version is pretty much tasteless.

When it comes to clothes, while I can see the practicality of some artificial/synthetic fabrics such as polyacryl (it keeps away moths), I get an allergic reaction to such stuff. I also find that synthetics smell much worse if one sweats in them and don't allow proper "breathing" of the skin in summer. So I prefer 100% cotton and other natural/organic fabrics.

TV I rarely watch but I use the computer to watch movies, documentaries and the like, also to keep up to date with the news and so on.

I usually turn to home-made, natural remedies for minor health problems like the flu, sore throat, nausea, etc. Veggies and fruit containing a lot of vitamin C are good for many conditions and the advantage is that they don't have the side effects some (if not all?) medication has.

Although I like animals and I'm for treating them well, I'm not against using the meat, fur, eggs etc. of some. Sometimes I wonder if using synthetic, artificial, substitute products doesn't cause more damage to nature/the environment than using what an animal can provide us with. Interestingly enough, some time ago I read on a website that dog hair can be collected and used to make scarfs, sweaters, etc. and that it's actually warmer than sheep's wool. Now that's an idea, my dog is currently shedding a lot of hair. :knitting

Ælfrun
Monday, January 10th, 2011, 06:37 AM
I work in a health food store so I am pretty much as natural as I can be. Everything I put on and in my body is pretty much organic. There are herbs and oils out there for basically everything you can think of;

Oil of Oregano, Elderberry, and Echinacea gets rid of colds and flu symtoms. Burning Eucalyptus oil in a diffuser with some lavender and mint will purify the air. I use zinc lozenges when I have a sore thorat and they work like a charm.
Sea Buckthorn oil, tea tree oil, and Aloe Vera Gel work great for broken out skin and are great moisturizers. Water based moisturizers are the best for sensitive skin.
I use SPF 40 Organic sunblock because there are no parabens or sulphates in it which are harmful chemicals.
Tea trea oil is great in shampoo and conditioner.
Coconut oil is also great for hair and on the body in the shower. It is very moisturizing.
Green Tea is an excellent anti-oxidant as well as Acai berry juice which is great for the skin.
I take a lot of fish oils and eat flax and hemp seeds to get Omega 3, 6, 9's and fiber which helps with bones, hair, skin and inflammation.
I do not drink milk. It is not good for you unless it is organic. I drink Almond milk which has no cholesterol or loctose. It is also low in calories :)
It is good to do a full body cleanse at least twice a year with certian herbs. Cleanses can be bought as kits from different health food stores. They get rid of harmful toxins in the body and also stop cravings and promote healthy weight loss
I could go on and on...

Wittmann
Monday, January 10th, 2011, 07:16 AM
Hmm, ate out thrice today, played eight hours of video games, then brain rotted in front of the movie screen. I live in the modern world! :thumbup

Autosomal Viking
Tuesday, January 11th, 2011, 06:40 AM
I usually avoid any kind of food that has trans fat in it. Trans fat is unnatural. It's not just the innate 'unnaturalness' that makes it bad for you, but because it doesn't exist in nature at all, your body has no enzyme to degrade it like other fats. So it stays there a long time and causes problems. When in doubt, natural is often a good way to go. But beware, many natural things are bad for you. And many things capable of being made in the lab are identical to what can be made in nature, so not everything unnatural is bad.

flâneur
Wednesday, January 12th, 2011, 05:47 PM
When exercising, I go for long walks instead of running, and train with free weigths, a kettlebell and a pullup bar. People are frequently amazed that I have trained for so many years and are so fit, but I do not know how to use any machines. I have never set foot in a gym.


You soon changed your tune....arent you the one in another thread telling us all to take up weight training and go to the gym.....?

Leonhardt
Monday, January 17th, 2011, 09:38 AM
Many imported foods into the US still can have harmful chemicals. The problem is that the imported foods are many times not labeled differently than the domestic foods. GM foods are not labeled either. This is why it is important to try to eat organic foods in the US, where the laws are not as protective for the consumers.
Even non-stick cookware, and laundry detergents can be dangerous to your health.
These are some of the reasons why I think it is good to use detoxifying supplements in the US.

Ten powerful ways to protect yourself from toxic chemicals
If you want to protect yourself from these toxic chemicals, here's how to do it: -Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
http://www.naturalnews.com/031033_toxic_chemicals_pregnant_women.ht ml



So What Really Is In A
McDonald's Chicken McNugget?
http://www.rense.com/general76/chk.htm
There is approximately 50% chicken in a McNugget.

Ælfrun
Wednesday, January 19th, 2011, 05:17 AM
Many imported foods into the US still can have harmful chemicals. The problem is that the imported foods are many times not labeled differently than the domestic foods. GM foods are not labeled either. This is why it is important to try to eat organic foods in the US, where the laws are not as protective for the consumers.
Even non-stick cookware, and laundry detergents can be dangerous to your health.


I agree with you, and also there are Harmful level of Estrogens in most foods that are also causing health problems in both men and women. Many people have misconceptions about Soy. Soy products are incredibly bad as they contain phytoestrogens which interfere with hormones involved in reproduction and growth in men and women. Soy can also cause cancers and thyroid problems. There are vast majorities of food on the market including meats that have soy in them, and a lot of chemicals are listed in ingredients as "natural flavor or ingredients". There is a major difference between Natural and Organic. Everything is "natural" but in order for a product to be organic, it has to be certified.

Sindig_og_stoisk
Thursday, January 20th, 2011, 08:51 PM
You soon changed your tune....arent you the one in another thread telling us all to take up weight training and go to the gym.....?

Free weights= barbell training, especially compound exercises like the Squat, Deadlift and Press.

I have been forced to get a gym membership as the barbell in my dorm's training room has been worn down (yes, that can actually happen:(). I still steer clear of all the weird weight machines in the gym. If I cannot lift and balance it on my own, then it is not a beneficial movement.

Isabella
Friday, February 18th, 2011, 12:49 PM
You try to eat food that don't have any chemicals in them?? Oh my God!! Hahahahaha everything around us is made of chemicals love, you are made of chemicals (I swear that's like the first thing you learn in Chemistry?) But yeah if you don't wanna eat anything with chemicals in then you're stuck with eating nothing I'm afraid..