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GreenHeart
Monday, October 21st, 2002, 06:02 AM
What's with Led Zepplin??? Why do they have a song all about the vikings? It's called the "Immigrant Song".... Wait let me get the lyrics....

Led Zeppelin
Immigrant Song

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!

On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.

Ah, ah,
We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
How soft your fields so green, can whisper tales of gore,
Of how we calmed the tides of war. WE ARE YOUR OVERLORDS.

On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.

So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins,
For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing.

------

Can I take this song seriously or what?

Stríbog
Monday, October 21st, 2002, 06:59 AM
Ah yes, the Immigrant Song. Led Zeppelin was a very complex band in terms of its musical interests and the personalities that comprised it. Jimmy Page was very interested in the occult and paranormal. He purchased an estate on Loch Ness which had formerly belonged to Mr. Aleister Crowley. Robert Plant was heavily into mythology, especially that of the Norse people, and Aryans in general. The 4 symbols on the cover of their 4th album signify these mystical inclinations. However, they were also heavily influenced by Mississippi Negro blues. This to me has ALWAYS presented a dilemma; I really enjoy Led Zeppelin's music, but I dislike the obvious Negro influence in some of the songs. Others, however, are beautifully pure in melody and subject. Achilles Last Stand is one of my absolute favorite songs of any kind. It is an epic, driving ballad about European wars of ancient times. The Battle of Evermore is another good one; it is based on the Lord of the Rings books, which also heavily influenced Robert Plant. Stairway to Heaven is pretty good but far from their best. Kashmir is pretty good as well, but I have a hard time deciphering what it is about. Besides Immigrant Song, No Quarter is another great Viking song. All My Love is another great one; it has very poetic lyrics and was written as a eulogy to Robert Plant's son Karac (named for the Welsh general who held the Romans at bay in Britain), who died tragically and suddenly of a stomach infection. In it, he actually refers to his son as a Proud Aryan. I have a hard time imagining anyone today using that as a lyric. They seem like they had some latent racial consciousness based on many of their songs, but it is just so at odds with their Negro songs like I Can't Quit You Baby, Whole Lotta Love, Bring It On Home, and Travelling Riverside Blues. This is a contradiction that has troubled me for quite a while. Today I listen to their Aryan-type songs but not the bluesy ones. That is the simplest way I have found to deal with it. I DO urge all of you to listen to some of their good songs that I suggested above. Achilles Last Stand never fails to elicit an emotional response from me, no matter how many times I hear it.

Boromir
Wednesday, October 23rd, 2002, 09:39 PM
They're a good band.As mentioned they do have some songs that are bluesey sounding,but if you can over look that then I would highly suggest anyone to listen to them.No Quarter,Immigrant song,and Battle of Evermore are my personal favorites.But some other Honorable mentions are What is and what should never be,your time is gonna come,over the hills and far away,Gallows pole,When the Levee breaks,and in the evening.

Moody
Thursday, November 21st, 2002, 07:49 PM
I agree that Led Zep touched on some Aryan consciousness at times, but this was out-weighed by the Negoid Blues and generally chaotic nature of Rock.

The track 'The Battle of Evermore' is interesting, I agree. But listen how the late Sandy Denny sings pure Aryan tones, while Plant tends to put 'Blues' notes in, which clash with this Folk Song.

Sandy Denny was a beautiful Nordic girl who sung in the British Folk-Rock band Fairport Convention. I actually think that Fairport, and especially early Steeleye Span, have far more going for them in the Aryan stakes.
By drawing on the deep stock of White British Folk music they always serve the Aryan cause in art-music. Always dignified and ordered, always White.

wrathchild72
Friday, January 17th, 2003, 01:18 AM
Good band but WAY overplayed on the radio. I like most of the songs already mentioned but like you all I don't care for the really blues influenced shit. Also, I'm not sure about the mother of Plant's son Karec or whatever his name was but Plant's wife is East Indian and I'm pretty sure the Indian was his mother, I'm remembering from the video Song Remains The Same that my little brother used 2 watch all the time. I think Jimmy Page might've been married to a Paki also, one of his daughters is pretty dark.

Moody
Friday, January 17th, 2003, 04:57 PM
I presume that their songs are over-played because there is little in contemporary rock to touch them - in the mainstream.

Of course, the radio will NOT play White Power Rock, which is a great loss because some of the best rock comes out of that genre.

As to marrying Indians, I will say one thing; one of the greatest National Socialist Philosophers, Savitri Devi [who was actually Anglo-French], married an Indian. The latter was a Brahmin, so was presumably an Aryan.
This didn't seem to bother her associates, such as Skorzeny, Rudel, Colin Jordan and G.L.Rockwell.

Scáthach
Sunday, January 19th, 2003, 03:29 AM
sandy was a wonderful singer,probably the best british female singer songwriter of all time.
fairport were a great band (anyone who can listen to unhalfbricking and not agree im slightly wary of!)
richard thompson is also immensely talented,i saw him last summer..his guitar playing is amazing :D

led zep have a few great songs but ive still never loved them...

wrathchild72
Monday, January 20th, 2003, 06:44 PM
Yes...but Plant's wife is a dark skinned Indian, Davidian or whatever it's called

Hermod
Wednesday, February 5th, 2003, 06:10 PM
Led Zeppelin lovers have also a Jewish manager:

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-hollywoodexecs.html

Prince Eugen
Wednesday, April 23rd, 2003, 07:53 PM
Me personally i'm a skinhead but i hear a lot of kind of music from classic rock to RAC , from heavy metal to classical music ,from Black(N.S.) metal to folk European music.Some bands like Uriah Heep or Led Zeppelin wrote some very good songs but as persons they were hippies, race traitors, drugies scums.But i prefer to hear bands like Led Zeppelin in my radio than niggers rap or this so call trendy music.
But their generation was a lost generation ,they never were my musical heroes .My musical heroes were Skrewdriver, No Remorse and more WP bands.

NatRev
Thursday, May 8th, 2003, 12:25 AM
Death in June manage to produce some good folk, but can be a bit hit & miss at times. Early stuff is a bit like Joy Division latter stuff a bit more folky.

I had a tape of theirs, had some really good classics like DEATH OF THE WEST but some really crappy stuff too like cats screaching, maybe it was a different singer but much as I like cats I can't see much merit in someone trying to sound like one either intentionally or not.:eek:

WE DRIVE EAST is a good one too.

Mother Destruction were OK too, only heard a few of their songs, very Asatru orientated, might download some stuff if I find any.

I downloaded some stuff by NON, bloody hell, that's good.... not. Didn't reckon much to that at all, sonded like my vacuum cleaner some of it..... mmmmm, not my thing really.

Getorix
Sunday, December 5th, 2004, 09:20 PM
This to me has ALWAYS presented a dilemmaWell, why? All rock is rooted in blues, and even white power rock bands owe everything to the old Black blues guys.

And furthermore, it didn't actually help the Black blues men that many of their songs were ripped of without any credit given to them, rather the contrary. :D

Edit:

Oh, and here are the Viking lyrics to No Quarter:

Close the doors, put out the light
You know they won't be home tonight
The snow falls hard and don't you know
The winds of Thorburn are blowing cold
They're wearing steel that's bright and true
They carry news that must get through
They choose the path where no-one goes
They hold no quarter,
They ask no quarter.

Walking side by side with death
The devil mocks their every step
The snow drives back the foot that's slow
The dogs of doom are howling more
They carry news that must get through
To build a dream for me and you
They choose the path that no one goes
They hold no quarter, they ask no quarter

Stríbog
Sunday, December 5th, 2004, 11:44 PM
Well, why? All rock is rooted in blues, and even white power rock bands owe everything to the old Black blues guys.

And furthermore, it didn't actually help the Black blues men that many of their songs were ripped of without any credit given to them, rather the contrary. :D

Yeah, I wrote that post a long time ago, when I was still feeling 'conflicted' about liking black music. I've long since stopped feeling guilty about it. I like blues, rock and roll, and even some R&B and funk.

Getorix
Thursday, January 20th, 2005, 10:25 PM
Yeah, I wrote that post a long time ago, when I was still feeling 'conflicted' about liking black music. I've long since stopped feeling guilty about it. I like blues, rock and roll, and even some R&B and funk.Ah, ok, i just thought i had to defend my favourite band (even though Jimmy Page has a tendency to screw around with mulattos half his age).

And remember, folks, this "Black music" couldn't have existed without white instruments.

Thulean Imperial Inquisitor
Saturday, January 22nd, 2005, 09:52 PM
The Immigrant Song is a song written after Led Zep's concert in Iceland in june 1970. The song is in fact about "The land of the midnight sun" wich is Iceland. The immigrants were the heathen norwegians who immigrated Iceland.

Getorix
Monday, January 24th, 2005, 12:19 AM
Led Zeppelin lovers have also a Jewish manager:I think they must be confusing him with Brian Epstein, manager of the Beatles.

I have never heard of Peter Grant being Jewish by any other source.

Willowsprout
Monday, January 24th, 2005, 01:23 AM
http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/ :)

green nationalist
Wednesday, January 26th, 2005, 03:12 PM
A timeless amazing Band, Favourite songs of mine include "communication breakdown" "dazed and Confused" hell basiclly the entire first album, i have a 1969 original Vinyl of it:)

I also am obsessed by "over the hills and far away" "Song remains the same" "Houses of the Holy" "Achilles last stand" "Misty Mountain Hop" "Going to california" too many to list really

The famous ones like Black Dog, Rock and Roll, and Since i been loving you do not raleey appeal to me as the nero influence is far to prominant,

As was stated earlier Negro music is played on European instruments, :thumbup

But I suppose drums and bongos etc are african to a extent. and a repetitive rock "Beat" is indicitive of tribal African culture as european music tended not to have monotonous thumping beats behind the music.

Getorix
Saturday, January 29th, 2005, 10:18 PM
Jimmy sure loved them mulattas.

http://pablo.pernot.free.fr/images/photos/groupie.jpg

Tripredacus
Sunday, January 30th, 2005, 03:23 AM
Me personally i'm a skinhead but i hear a lot of kind of music from classic rock to RAC , from heavy metal to classical music ,from Black(N.S.) metal to folk European music.Some bands like Uriah Heep or Led Zeppelin wrote some very good songs but as persons they were hippies, race traitors, drugies scums.But i prefer to hear bands like Led Zeppelin in my radio than niggers rap or this so call trendy music.
But their generation was a lost generation ,they never were my musical heroes .My musical heroes were Skrewdriver, No Remorse and more WP bands.

That just goes to show you that it is not the message of songs that make them what they are. It is the music of them that makes us like them.

Think of the songs with messages you accept but the music is crap. And think of the songs where the music is great but you can't stand the message (or what the people stand for.)

It makes it so much better when you find a song in which you like the music and the words.

Dr. Solar Wolff
Sunday, January 30th, 2005, 07:44 AM
Led Zepplin was a 1970's rock and roll band--or was it? I got a big flash kids, there was not rock after 1970. It all died, dead. Nobody was listening to Led (should read "Dead") Zepplin so they did the Stairway to Heaven thing. That is not R&R, nice but not rock. Since then they have billed themselves as heavy metal, R&B and probably even tried the New Wave thing--who knows--who cares.