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Nordgau
Wednesday, July 30th, 2003, 02:16 PM
Here's a link with race and eugenics stuff from a Third Reich schoolbook. Of course brief and for popular use and education, but nevertheless nice to see and enjoy. :guinness
www.tu-bs.de/institute/fachdidnat/didaktikbio/Maps/Projekt-1/Bilder/Erblehre-Rassenkunde/Rassenkunde.htm
Götterschicksal
Wednesday, July 30th, 2003, 05:48 PM
Ausgezeichnet!!
Lies mal "das deutsche Gesicht."
:knight
Die meisten Beiträger können hier nicht ganz gut Deutsch.
:scratch
Loki
Wednesday, July 30th, 2003, 06:15 PM
Let us look at the basic German racial types, according to that book:
http://www.tu-bs.de/institute/fachdidnat/didaktikbio/Maps/Projekt-1/Bilder/Erblehre-Rassenkunde/02.jpg
http://www.tu-bs.de/institute/fachdidnat/didaktikbio/Maps/Projekt-1/Bilder/Erblehre-Rassenkunde/03.jpg
Nordgau
Wednesday, July 30th, 2003, 06:35 PM
Translation:
Nordische Kernrasse = Nordic core race
Fälisch-nordische Kernrasse = Falish-Nordic core race
Westischer Einschlag = Mediterranean element
Vorwiegend ostischer Rasseneinschlag = Predominantly Alpine race element
Ostbaltischer Rasseneinschlag = East Baltic race element
Vorwiegend dinarischer Rasseneinschlag = Predominantly Dinaric race element
(I'm not sure if "element" is really the best translation for Einschlag, and if "core" is good here for Kern)
Polak
Thursday, July 31st, 2003, 06:25 AM
Translation:
Nordische Kernrasse = Nordic core race
Fälisch-nordische Kernrasse = Falish-Nordic core race
Westischer Einschlag = Mediterranean element
Vorwiegend ostischer Rasseneinschlag = Predominantly Alpine race element
Ostbaltischer Rasseneinschlag = East Baltic race element
Vorwiegend dinarischer Rasseneinschlag = Predominantly Dinaric race element
(I'm not sure if "element" is really the best translation for Einschlag, and if "core" is good here for Kern)
The guy labelled as Nordische Kernrasse has my profile, except my jaw is deeper and my head sticks out more at the back.
To be honest, I don't think he looks completely Nordic. I would say he's a borderline Noric/Nordic if I had to be specific.
Nordhammer
Friday, August 1st, 2003, 07:11 AM
The Nordic looks very high-skulled, an UP-Nordic intermediate, while the Faelish guys looks very Alpine.
Tore
Friday, August 1st, 2003, 05:15 PM
The Nordic looks very high-skulled, an UP-Nordic intermediate
Or Corded...
Nordhammer
Saturday, August 2nd, 2003, 07:55 AM
The Westic ("Mediterranean") type is really rare, though. I must say I have never seen such a face in Germany.
- Thorburn
Yeah, that Westic guy almost looks Jewish. I prefer the others over him.
Nordgau
Saturday, August 2nd, 2003, 02:18 PM
Mediterranean blood is among ethnic Germans quite rare and can mostly be found in the region left of the river Rhine (Palatine, especially Mosel valley and then the whole Rheinland up to Aachen and Cologne) - but even there it's of course nowhere a dominating type and can only be found as a certain element in the population. Only few people will be found who are really pure or very predominantly Mediterranean.
The only prominent German showing predominantly the Mediterranean (westisch) type, who comes to my mind, is Joseph Goebbels (from Rheydt in the country left of the river Rhine).
I think in Southern Austria (Carinthia) there's also a certain Mediterranean element, and then especially in Vienna.
matt
Tuesday, August 5th, 2003, 07:07 PM
In a Video i saw, where Hitler speaks in "Nürnberg", there you can see a drummer at the beginning that has also this kind of face.
But I don't see (many?) people with this kind of face, too.
Hmmm, maybe it has changed (developed) to much till today.
Götterschicksal
Wednesday, August 6th, 2003, 01:29 PM
In a Video i saw, where Hitler speaks in "Nürnberg", there you can see a drummer at the beginning that has also this kind of face.
But I don't see (many?) people with this kind of face, too.
Hmmm, maybe it has changed (developed) to much till today.
It is good to note they were still considered germans. Even though they were not of the ancient germanic tribes or of many of our ancestors, we still treat them as brothers and friends. But the post-war propaganda would like you to belive that we though blonde people were some super-german and better than the rest. That is just not true.
Rex
Wednesday, August 13th, 2003, 12:38 PM
It is good to note they were still considered germans. Even though they were not of the ancient germanic tribes or of many of our ancestors, we still treat them as brothers and friends. But the post-war propaganda would like you to belive that we though blonde people were some super-german and better than the rest. That is just not true.
Absolutely true, I have seen some germans with a strong med strain, in fact until they began to speak in German I did not guess his nationality. This book is a magnificent example of the position of the nacionalsocialism with respect to the white race in general.
Btw, the pics of the falish and med types are not the best examples of these subraces.
Masterman
Monday, August 18th, 2003, 12:04 AM
It is good to note they were still considered germans. Even though they were not of the ancient germanic tribes or of many of our ancestors, we still treat them as brothers and friends. But the post-war propaganda would like you to belive that we though blonde people were some super-german and better than the rest. That is just not true.
I agree. Let's define them as 'Latin' Germans.
Actually, 'Westlich' means 'of the West', hence the fact that these types are most often found in the regions bordering France.
Nordgau
Monday, August 18th, 2003, 11:09 AM
I agree. Let's define them as 'Latin' Germans.
Actually, 'Westlich' means 'of the West', hence the fact that these types are most often found in the regions bordering France.
Yeah, but you must notice that the racial names are westisch and nordisch, and not westlich (western) and nördlich (northern), so they are more a reference to these directions.
The reason why Günther had created the racial name westisch for mediterran was because for him mediterran was too geographically specific for him, and people wonder that up to Western France, Britain and Ireland "Mediterranean" people are found and the prehistorical culteure of these "Mediterraneans" has spreaded. So westisch points out more the general spreading and direction of this race in European context and isn't as exclusively connected with recently well-known and existing geographical terms like the Mediterranean Sea.
The fact that in Germany the Meds are geographically Westische wasn't the decisive reason for this term.
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