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Theudanaz
Monday, March 28th, 2005, 02:17 AM
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By JILL LAWLESS, Associated Press Writer

REYKJAVIK, Iceland - New Icelandic citizen Bobby Fischer is volatile, uncompromising and defiantly eccentric. He should fit right in.

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Tiny, wind-lashed Iceland has long drawn artists, loners and dreamers attracted by its remoteness, empty spaces and otherworldly, lava-strewn landscape — the very conditions that kept most migrants away and helped forge the proud, independent Icelandic character.



"What was it Buzz Aldrin said about the moon? 'Magnificent desolation' — that's Iceland," said Jose Tirado, a U.S.-born Buddhist priest who has lived near Reykjavik for four years. "Iceland affords the natural inspiration to spend as much time as you like in your head, formulating ideas."



As a result, he said, "Everybody here has a guitar or a poem, some artwork or a play."



Chess icon Fischer, who spent nine months in Japanese detention fighting extradition to the United States, was granted citizenship last week by the country that was the site of his greatest triumph — a 1972 world championship victory in Reykjavik over Cold War rival Boris Spassky of the Soviet Union.



Chicago-born, Brooklyn-bred Fischer, wanted in the United States for playing a 1992 rematch against Spassky in Yugoslavia in defiance of international sanctions, arrived in Iceland on Thursday. The next day, he told journalists: "I was crazy to leave."



He may be right. If any country is willing to overlook Fischer's erratic behavior and often extreme pronouncements, it's Iceland.



The rugged volcanic island whose most famous exports are fish and flamboyant singer Bjork takes a forgiving attitude to personal eccentricity.



"There's a respect for individual autonomy here," said Tirado, 45, who writes, studies and teaches meditation classes to Icelanders. "In Iceland, you're free enough to be rude. They tolerate anybody, though that doesn't mean they approve."



Fischer's arrival has drawn attention to Iceland's immigrants, a small but remarkably diverse group in a traditionally homogeneous country.



Large-scale immigration is a relatively new phenomenon for a country where almost everyone is descended from 9th-century Viking settlers.



The number of foreign-born residents has doubled in the past decade, but is still only 10,000 people, just more than 3 percent of the population. There are Portuguese construction workers building a major dam in the east of the country, Poles working in northern fish factories and Thai cleaners in Reykjavik's hotels, as well as a smattering of young Europeans and North Americans attracted by the country's coziness, strong social safety net and high standard of living.



"It was clean, peaceful, isolated — just what I wanted," said Paul F. Nikolov, an American journalist who moved here six years ago. "Not at all like Baltimore."



The downside is that immigrants often feel like a very visible minority. Many complain it is difficult to gain acceptance from Icelanders.



"Most people ask me why I am here," said Mustapha Moussaoui, an Algerian who works as a chef in a Reykjavik cafe. "And when you work with Icelanders, they won't treat you as a friend for the first year or two — until they get to know you and respect you."



Then there's the weather — "depressing, dark, icy."



"To be honest, it's a really hard life here," said Moussaoui, who is married to an Icelandic woman.







The bill granting Fischer citizenship passed through Iceland's parliament in just 12 minutes. But for most others, it's not easy to become an Icelander.

Those who get a residence permit — usually conditional on a job offer — must wait seven years before they can apply for citizenship, a process that involves multiple forms, character references and often extensive medical tests.

Under tough new rules introduced in 2003 that have been criticized by some human-rights groups, immigrants married to Icelanders cannot apply for a residence permit if they are younger than 24, and relatives of naturalized citizens may not join their family in Iceland until they are 67.

"Twelve minutes!" said Kenyan-born waitress Sheba Wanjiku, shaking her head in disbelief at Fischer's luck. "It's taking me five years."

alphaknave
Monday, March 28th, 2005, 04:22 AM
So Iceland is the popular getaway now huh?

Theudanaz
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 02:45 AM
That seems to be the only logical response to this scenario. Can I ask why the african woman didn't get the message? Too stupid?

AAAARRRGGGGHHH

Fraxinus Excelsior
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 02:53 AM
That seems to be the only logical response to this scenario. Can I ask why the african woman didn't get the message? Too stupid?I believe you have already answered your own question. ;)

ChrisDownUnder
Sunday, August 14th, 2005, 01:46 PM
It seems that no European country, no matter how small or remote, is immune to the agenda of the multiculturalists.

"It was clean, peaceful, isolated — just what I wanted," said Paul F. Nikolov, an American journalist who moved here six years ago. "Not at all like Baltimore."Rest assured Mr. Nikolov, that Reykjavik will more closely resemble Baltimore, when its population achieves a similar level of ‘diversity’.

Under tough new rules introduced in 2003 that have been criticized by some human-rights groups ... relatives of naturalized citizens may not join their family in Iceland until they are 67.Seems like a sensible policy – at age 67 these ‘relatives’ will not be able to infect the Icelandic gene pool.

Here (http://www.utl.is/index.php?bId=258) is a link to the Icelandic Directorate of Immigration (contents available in both English and Icelandic). It is interesting to note that fellow Nordic (Danish, Finnish, Norwegian and Swedish) nationals are given preferential treatment, as should be the case.

Rhydderch
Saturday, August 20th, 2005, 04:09 AM
The downside is that immigrants often feel like a very visible minority. Many complain it is difficult to gain acceptance from Icelanders.It's funny how some people don't understand that these days. It must be those from highly populated areas where people are constantly restless, flitting from place to place, who don't understand it; and of course, where people have already been programmed to have no sense of history or origins. Just a 'formless herd' (as was said on another thread).

The same sort of complaints are often made about Australian country areas; people don't seem to realise that it's like that in any country, in areas where the inhabitants are not accustomed to seeing outsiders and unfamiliar faces constantly. It is often taken as unfriendly, but it's probably reservedness more than anything.

But in a country like Iceland, where everybody presumably knows everybody else (or where they fit in, at any rate) and have had such links going back many generations, it can hardly be expected that a newcomer can just pop in and be 'accepted' as an Icelander.

NordicPower
Wednesday, October 26th, 2005, 11:12 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

:-O :thumbdown :( :~( :burn :grind :headbang :2rant :cuss :wtf :fmad:

Let's hope the pure Icelanders like Thulean Imperial Inquisitor can drive them back to their homelands.

Thulean Imperial Inquisitor
Wednesday, January 18th, 2006, 10:01 AM
I'm afraid it's getting worse here every year... :~(

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Iceland, considered by many to be untouched by the mounting immigration crisis faced by Europe, is reportedly "cracking" at its very foundations from the same problems faced in other White, Western European countries. Many are now starting to say the steady wave of non-Icelanders into the country will permanently change the face of this race of Scandinavian people.

Official immigration figures show the largest numbers of foreigners are coming from Poland (1903), Iceland's former ruler Denmark (890), and the countries that once were Yugoslavia (670). But large numbers of Asians, coming from the Philipines (647), Thailand (490), Vietnam (239) and China (227) and other countries (462) are also finding a home on the volcanic island in the Artic Sea, along with a good number of Africans (305) and indigenous Latin Americans (268). There are also a good deal of other Europeans (3,489), not to mention Americans (515) and Candaians (73).

These numbers only count foreigners living in Iceland and do not include those who have gotten Green Cards, or their children. The total number of foreign immigrants living in Iceland is about 15,000, around 5% of the population. For a country of only 250,000 mostly cramped into an area the size of a large town (Reykjavik) this is a lot, and has caused the country to reach the 300,000 population mark for the first time in its history.

This immigration factor is showing up in daycare centers in Reykjavik, Iceland's capitol, where 10% of all daycare enrollments are of foreign descent. In the Reykjavik neighborhood of Beidholt, half of the children in the Fellaborg daycare center are foreigners. While things aren't so bad in Iceland as they are in some American daycare centers, the country enacted a "celebrate diversity" policy back in 2001 that requires daycare operators to have the "ability to teach Icelandic as a second language," and "promote active bilingualism of children of foreign origin," as many foreigners speak Icelandic when only neccesary. Another brilliant edict passed down is "To make use of the cultural diversity existing in the preschool, " which is just a shiny way to say, "Let's all hold hands and sign 'Kumb-ya.'

Overall, it must be said that Icelanders see immigrants in a positive light, although teens beg to differ.

This fragment of the future has not gone unnoticed, however. Pall Valsson, director of fiction and academic publishing at Edda Publishing, has publicly announced that foundation of the Icelandic language was "cracking" and would become extinct in 100 years if efforts are not done to preserve one of the defining factors of what it is to be Icelandic. While many are concerned about the future of Iceland's environment, particularly with the Karahnukar dam being built in East Iceland, very little is being said about the future of the Icelandic language (and absolutely nothing is being said about the integrity of the Icelandic genetic pool). The director of the University Dictionary, Gudrun Kvaran, blames the tremendous amount of English-language pop culture coming into Iceland via TV, movies, computers and radio.

One bright spot in saving the language has been the creation of a free online course to learn Icelandic. Icelandic Online is the equivelant of a two-term Icelandic course in the University of Iceland. Currently, hundreds of people are enrolled in the online course, with many from Canada, where many of its nationals have Icelandic roots.

Source: Anti-Racist Losers (http://anonym.to/?http://mensnewsdaily.com/blog/antiracistlosers/2006/01/iceland-cracking-under-immigrant.html)

theuderik
Monday, February 6th, 2006, 12:30 AM
I used to have many Icelandic friends. There was a girl I talked to sometimes. She and her friends liked to date American soldiers (especially black guys). Of course, one of them would usually get pregnant by one of these guys and then they would wonder why they would get dumped. Even knowing this they continued on, sometimes even following these guys back to the states when their tour of duty was finished, knowing these guys didn't really care for them outside of a good lay. It totally blew me away listening to them. And the funny thing is, they had this irrational prejudice against Asian women, yet loved black guys. I guess the Asian women represented some sort of competition or something? Most Icelandic guys would tell me they thought Icelandic women were totally insane.

Digitalseal
Monday, February 6th, 2006, 03:04 AM
This is also somewhat the U.S. fault, the U.S. gov have often urged several European countries to allow immigrants to move in to their country and you're wars also causes immigration to Europe.

Æmeric
Saturday, May 13th, 2006, 01:20 AM
This is also somewhat the U.S. fault, the U.S. gov have often urged several European countries to allow immigrants to move in to their country and you're wars also causes immigration to Europe.
The US is in charge of immigration policy for Europe? I think you should blame the European politicians for the mess in Europe. And what US led war caused immigration from North Africa, Turkey or South Asia into Europe?

BTW Japan has a very restrictive immigration policy in spite of of whatever Washington thinks on the matter.

Gentilis
Saturday, May 13th, 2006, 09:55 PM
It brings to mind the Icelandic chidren's production Lazytown.

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I always thought the negro puppet was just a concession made to tap into the American market... I never would have believed there were enough negros in Iceland to actually make a negro character relevant.

Lundi
Wednesday, May 24th, 2006, 03:08 PM
In the original Icelandic version of the show, which didn’t have puppets but actors, the black one was white, his character was made black for the American market