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Conquistador
Friday, November 29th, 2002, 03:44 AM
Here are a few examples of the Nordic and Central Nordic racial type that exists in Spain. These are pictures of certain Spanish female models from http://www.spanishmodels.net.

Esther Cañadas from Alicante, Spain.
http://usuarios.lycos.es/spanishmodel/Esther2.jpg


Esmeralda Moya
http://usuarios.lycos.es/spanishmodel/Esmeraldam2.jpg

Marta Español
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Martae3.jpg

Alexandra Aguilera
http://www.spanishmodels.net/Alex3.jpg


The only bad thing is that these beautiful examples of the Aryan Race have to starve themselves for the sake of commerial beauty. :eek:

NordicPower
Friday, November 29th, 2002, 07:00 AM
I can't believe how dark they are! I never seen white people so dark. Mediteraneans are such a strange race to me.......

We don't have such dark Whites here. Heh, my hair is considered dark here, and its only reddish brown.

Meds

NordicPower
Friday, November 29th, 2002, 07:03 AM
Here's some true nordics from your spanish model site. Nordics don't have as full lips as the pictures of the girls you posted, that and the extremely dark or black hair is the most noticable difference.

This one looks Celtic

NordicPower
Friday, November 29th, 2002, 07:04 AM
Spanish Nordic

NordicPower
Friday, November 29th, 2002, 07:05 AM
More

NordicPower
Friday, November 29th, 2002, 07:07 AM
Same celtic girl again

Conquistador
Friday, November 29th, 2002, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by NordicPower88
Same celtic girl again

Actually, her family is from Belgium. But there are many girls like her in Spain. Especially in Galicia and Asturias were the Celtic and Germanic blood is the strongest. Vikings from time to time used to go to Northern Spain to trade with the Ancient Christian kingdoms via the Irish Sea commerial routes. The Vikings also went up the rivers of Central Spain when half of the Iberian Peninsula was under Muslim control.

NordicPower
Friday, November 29th, 2002, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Conquistador
Actually, her family is from Belgium.

Heh, she looks like she came straight from Ireland. My moms cousins have the same look, red hair, blue eyes, but no freckles.......

Conquistador
Friday, November 29th, 2002, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by NordicPower88
I can't believe how dark they are! I never seen white people so dark. Mediteraneans are such a strange race to me.......


The sun does turn people dark from time to time. My father is Dinaric in structure, but when he started to play golf, almost frequently, around 25 years ago, he started to get darker and darker in complexion. Now, he looks a like an Arab. :amok Tans have a tendency to fool people's eyes. Even I have been fooled.
As for the Mediterranean blood present in Spain; it's but a remnant of the Iberian or Old European genetic line. Even I have Mediterranean blood in me...to some extent. The Nordic and Celtic blood is more apparent in me. My great-grandfather from my dad's mother's side was a full-blown redhead with blue eyes. And my great-grandmother from my dad's father side was a strawberry-blonde. My eye color is a mix of hazel and brown with a bit of green in them. And my hair is dark brown, almost black. And my skin is naturally white, but I am able to tan and not burn. :cool

Von Braun
Sunday, December 1st, 2002, 09:25 PM
I do not see anything dark about those Spainsh women whose images Conquistador posted. What were you referring to?

Conquistador
Sunday, December 1st, 2002, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by Von Braun
I do not see anything dark about those Spainsh women whose images Conquistador posted. What were you referring to?

She was refering that they weren't full Nordic, but a mix of Nordic and Mediterranean.

Von Braun
Monday, December 2nd, 2002, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Conquistador
She was refering that they weren't full Nordic, but a mix of Nordic and Mediterranean.
So that's beside the point. What about their appearance is mediterranean? Also, I'll reiterate my original question: What about the appearance of ANY of those women is dark? The darkest hair is medium brown. The others' hair are shades of blonde and red. The only dark feature that I do see is that one has brown eyes. They all have light skin. I am genuinely confused as to what she was referring to.

NordicPower
Monday, December 2nd, 2002, 02:10 AM
What I meant is about the models on that site. Go to the site and look at them.
http://www.spanishmodels.net

The majority of them have very dark eyes (sometimes even black!)and black hair. Black hair is a very loose term to me because most people around here consider medium to dark brown hair to be "black"

I only consider hair that is true black to be black. These girls DEFINITELY have black hair. I meant that their hair and eyes are extremely dark for a White person. I found it odd that some people have such dark black hair and eyes with skin as pale as mine. I certainly didn't mean that their skin was dark.

I myself have blue eyes, pale skin, medium reddish-brown hair, and nordic facial features.

But yes, VonBraun, your hair would be considered "dark", but that's not really important. Even pure nordics can have "dark" hair. To most people "dark" just means brown. It's not like you're an arab!

Here's a Halstatt Nordic with "dark" hair

Von Braun
Monday, December 2nd, 2002, 02:41 AM
Thank you for confusing me. :eek:

Actually, to be honest, I suspected that you meant the models on that site, but you were vague in your sentence structure. I like to keep people sharp in their phrasing so that the other side does not make them look bad if they are ever public figures like David Duke. ;)

Legio_Melita
Monday, December 2nd, 2002, 08:38 AM
Speaking of Mediterraneans, here's one from Malta.

Ederico
Monday, December 2nd, 2002, 04:21 PM
@D_SINNER

Whose that little girl in that photo, is she your relative? She does not look totally Mediterrenean.

NordicPower
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002, 05:14 AM
She looks like a mix of Med and Nordic. A lot of people in those southern countries look like that.

goidelicwarrior
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by NordicPower88
She looks like a mix of Med and Nordic. A lot of people in those southern countries look like that.

with all respect I am not provoking anyone, I am a stormfront member, but some of these threads like " i cant differ a turk from an italian" do you think its beneficial to the western white cause ???? and this thread, you say 70% in the US are white.. sure, but in the name of truth.. how many are extreme Nordics like in YOUR pics??? its a game of the hottest pics, beleive me I am for the WHOLE western world white preservation without jews e.t.c. but insults leads nowhere or what do you think???
I am from the Northern Spanish coast where moors or immigrants have never been, so we inhabit this area since preroman times and dont wish to be compared with mixed race turks or scum from a crack nigger hood, Thank You! since you like pics here are one of us from Cantabria!!!!!!!!

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Von Braun
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by triskel
with all respect I am not provoking anyone, I am a stormfront member, but some of these threads like " i cant differ a turk from an italian" do you think its beneficial to the western white cause ???? and this thread, you say 70% in the US are white.. sure, but in the name of truth.. how many are extreme Nordics like in YOUR pics??? its a game of the hottest pics, beleive me I am for the WHOLE western world white preservation without jews e.t.c. but insults leads nowhere or what do you think???
I am from the Northern Spanish coast where moors or immigrants have never been, so we inhabit this area since preroman times and dont wish to be compared with mixed race turks or scum from a crack nigger hood, Thank You! since you like pics here are one of us from Cantabria!!!!!!!!

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I couldn't agree with this gentleman (I assume) any more than I do in regard to the "mediterranean" issue and the misuse of that term. Like I also keep trying to beat into people, Atlanto-Mediterraneans are White---that woman is a Basque (French/Spanish border), I saw her on SF, and the Basque are are Atlanto-Mediterraneans (their ancestors did the famous cave paintings), some people from the British Isles are Atlanto-Mediterranean (their ancestors did the pre-Celtic megalithic structures of those islands). Atlanto-mediterraneans have been in Europe for 40,000 years. I do not consider arabs, turks and jews to be Mediterraneans, and certainly not White or Aryan. They are recent invaders. They are semites.

Hellstar
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002, 01:09 PM
I know this post was not aimed at me, but I would like to answer!

Originally posted by triskel
with all respect I am not provoking anyone, I am a stormfront member, but some of these threads like " i cant differ a turk from an italian" do you think its beneficial to the western white cause

Maybe we should turn this all around You are a stormfront member and can therefore be considered abit indoctrinated by doctrines and common conformity at SF. its no secret that SF embrace white egalitarianisms but at the same time trying to pose evidence of natural selection and oppose our non-egalitarian nature compared to non-Aryans. its all pathetic in my eyes. its important we confront our selves before confronting others! if you are all so sure in your beliefs! then what do we have to lose right? could it be not all people are so sure in their beliefts:rolleyes:

???? and this thread, you say 70% in the US are white.. sure, but in the name of truth.. how many are extreme Nordics like in YOUR pics??? its a game of the hottest pics, beleive me I am for the WHOLE western world white preservation without jews e.t.c. but insults leads nowhere or what do you think???
Not 70% of USA is Aryan. Maybe 60-50%
I see your point dont post stupid Models post real race examples but with all respect think that is what NP88 is doing.

I am from the Northern Spanish coast where moors or immigrants have never been, so we inhabit this area since preroman times and dont wish to be compared with mixed race turks or scum from a crack nigger hood, Thank You! since you like pics here are one of us from Cantabria!!!!!!!!
Well now you post a Model pic yourself? that's abit ambiguous accusing NP88 of that and then changing and doing it yourself.

I understand and Spain's are neither Italians or Turks but lets find out what they are instead shall we?.

goidelicwarrior
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by HELLSTAR
I know this post was not aimed at me, but I would like to answer!


Maybe we should turn this all around You are a stormfront member and can therefore be considered abit indoctrinated by doctrines and common conformity at SF. its no secret that SF embrace white egalitarianisms but at the same time trying to pose evidence of natural selection and oppose our non-egalitarian nature compared to non-Aryans. its all pathetic in my eyes. its important we confront our selves before confronting others! if you are all so sure in your beliefs! then what do we have to lose right? could it be not all people are so sure in their beliefts:rolleyes:


Not 70% of USA is Aryan. Maybe 60-50%
I see your point dont post stupid Models post real race examples but with all respect think that is what NP88 is doing.


Well now you post a Model pic yourself? that's abit ambiguous accusing NP88 of that and then changing and doing it yourself.

I understand and Spain's are neither Italians or Turks but lets find out what they are instead shall we?.

I am afraid I dont understand what you are trying to say with this..

I understand and Spain's are neither Italians or Turks but lets find out what they are instead shall we?.

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Hellstar
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002, 01:34 PM
Dont quote my whole post if you are not going to say more in your own post. only quote the thing in specific you dont understand or question. otherwise you are spamming OK?

goidelicwarrior
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by triskel
I am afraid I dont understand what you are trying to say with this..

I understand and Spain's are neither Italians or Turks but lets find out what they are instead shall we?.

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what is there to find out??? and no big burger is going to compare me with a Turk.. how many americanos dont you think looks like turks ?? the question was quite stupid, first we must ask ourselves.. what is an American or what is an Italian, how come that when a "Spaniard" is dark he is an ethnic Spaniard but a dark American is exused with " hes not a real American" I dont consider a Gypsy or Moorish person my kin any more than an Anglo saxon considers a Mexican his kin, hope you get the message !!!

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Hellstar
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002, 02:04 PM
Big burger? what the hell are you talking about!

OK lets put that aside for now! I agree with what you are saying. Yes its a Mess with the American situation, its extremely hard to find pure Aryan Subtypes types over there. and who said Turks consist of same biology as Spanish people?

Conquistador
Tuesday, December 3rd, 2002, 11:46 PM
America is one big multicultural MUD mess. It's almost a crime here, if it isn't already, to be "racist". America will fall apart just like Rome did. This is one reason why I'm planning to move to Spain after I get my degree.

As for "Freedom of The Press"...that freedom disappeared many decades ago when the Zionist pigs infiltrated our Newspapers and Television influencing the "goyim" while they go on with their Holohoax propraganda.

BodewinTheSilent
Thursday, December 5th, 2002, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Von Braun
some people from the British Isles are Atlanto-Mediterranean (their ancestors did the pre-Celtic megalithic structures of those islands).

One mustn't attribute the Megalithic culture to the Atlanto-Mediterraneans quite so hastily. :)

Link: http://www.white-history.com/nordishmegalith.htm

Von Braun
Friday, December 6th, 2002, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Heimdall
One mustn't attribute the Megalithic culture to the Atlanto-Mediterraneans quite so hastily. :)

Link: http://www.white-history.com/nordishmegalith.htm

I thought those megaliths were standing when the first IEs reached the Isles. Deductive logic would then favor the Atlanto-Mediterraneans as the people repsonsible.

BodewinTheSilent
Saturday, December 7th, 2002, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Von Braun
I thought those megaliths were standing when the first IEs reached the Isles.

Yes, that's correct.

Originally posted by Von Braun
Deductive logic would then favor the Atlanto-Mediterraneans as the people repsonsible.

Not nessecarily. There were Nordish Upper Palaeolithic types in Northern Europe, before the coming of the I-Es, besides the Meds. They were there before the Meds. For instance, one of the oldest crania to be found thus far in England, the Cheddar Gorge skull, is Brünn (Cro-Magnon), in type. Actually, a recent genetic survey of the Cheddar area, found a man -- a teacher named Adrian Targett -- whose DNA proved that he was a direct descendant of the 10,000-year-old Cheddar Gorge man.

Cheddar Gorge Man (Skull & Facial Reconstruction Based on the Skull)

http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr1_files/cro1.jpeg
http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr1_files/cro2.jpeg
http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr1_files/cro3.jpeg

For more definitive evidence, including the cultural traits of the Megalith-builders, read the article I linked to! :)

LINK: http://www4.stormfront.org/whitehistory/nordishmegalith.htm

OnionPeeler
Monday, December 9th, 2002, 10:44 AM
I know almost nothing about European sub-races and how to classify them. So I should probably keep quiet but...

I do know that there is no 'pure' race, not even in Scandinavia. Genetic testing has confirmed a link between Northern Europe and the south west. It is usually stated at 15% of northern genes.

This is believed by some to represent a neolithic intrusive element bringing agriculture to the Europe and might account for dark hair in the north.

My point is that "Aryan" is both modern and idealized. No living race matches the ideal. So much mixing has taken place with in Europe that the ideal must be considered abstract. There are blond-haired Swedes that are as dumb as a rock and dark haired Irish or Greeks who are brilliant. Clearly, the ideal traits are scattered all over the world...where ever Indo-Europeans have travelled some element of the ideal exists.

The 'ideal', to me, is a composite of intelligence, energy, character and appearance. And the purpose of the ideal is to encourage the amplification of the ideal traits with in Aryan groups - to gradually counter the effects of thousands of years of dysgenics.

Consequently, I tend to view 'living Aryan' very broadly. Almost any European, and many central Asian groups could racially qualify but....'modern Aryan' is also culture, character and even politics. There are 150,000,000 white Americans. Most can't be called Aryan because they don't believe in the ideal. They could be Aryans, but so long as they are wedded to ethnic suicide, they may as well be African.

Future Aryan

Since almost all WN's are favorably disposed to eugenics, "Aryan" also has a future tense. The future Aryan will be gently and consciously created. There's no need for heavy-handed eugenics. Reproduction today is a choice - small thing to add quality to that choice through mild social proddings.

Modern Aryan is measured in part by his committment to future Aryan. Myself, I'm solidly north European, but I don't match the ideal - yet I hold the ideal of intelligence and appearance as an object of worthy progress.

My point, of course, is that I hate to see the matter of differences between modern Aryans become a point of contention. Yes, the abstract Nordic, as both beauty and intelligence, is ideal, but part of the future Aryan.

Conquistador
Tuesday, December 10th, 2002, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by OnionPeeler
I know almost nothing about European sub-races and how to classify them. So I should probably keep quiet but...

I do know that there is no 'pure' race, not even in Scandinavia. Genetic testing has confirmed a link between Northern Europe and the south west. It is usually stated at 15% of northern genes.

This is believed by some to represent a neolithic intrusive element bringing agriculture to the Europe and might account for dark hair in the north.

My point is that "Aryan" is both modern and idealized. No living race matches the ideal. So much mixing has taken place with in Europe that the ideal must be considered abstract. There are blond-haired Swedes that are as dumb as a rock and dark haired Irish or Greeks who are brilliant. Clearly, the ideal traits are scattered all over the world...where ever Indo-Europeans have travelled some element of the ideal exists.

The 'ideal', to me, is a composite of intelligence, energy, character and appearance. And the purpose of the ideal is to encourage the amplification of the ideal traits with in Aryan groups - to gradually counter the effects of thousands of years of dysgenics.

Consequently, I tend to view 'living Aryan' very broadly. Almost any European, and many central Asian groups could racially qualify but....'modern Aryan' is also culture, character and even politics. There are 150,000,000 white Americans. Most can't be called Aryan because they don't believe in the ideal. They could be Aryans, but so long as they are wedded to ethnic suicide, they may as well be African.

Future Aryan

Since almost all WN's are favorably disposed to eugenics, "Aryan" also has a future tense. The future Aryan will be gently and consciously created. There's no need for heavy-handed eugenics. Reproduction today is a choice - small thing to add quality to that choice through mild social proddings.

Modern Aryan is measured in part by his committment to future Aryan. Myself, I'm solidly north European, but I don't match the ideal - yet I hold the ideal of intelligence and appearance as an object of worthy progress.

My point, of course, is that I hate to see the matter of differences between modern Aryans become a point of contention. Yes, the abstract Nordic, as both beauty and intelligence, is ideal, but part of the future Aryan.

I wholeheartedly agree on this issue. x_cheers

goidelicwarrior
Tuesday, December 10th, 2002, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by NordicPower88
I can't believe how dark they are! I never seen white people so dark. Mediteraneans are such a strange race to me.......

We don't have such dark Whites here. Heh, my hair is considered dark here, and its only reddish brown.

Meds

hi again, please explain how these Americans in the link are
ultra aryan, they are from the movement.. wich I respect , but I cant figure out how they are so Nordic.. as far I see.. no different than me or an Italian, what do you say??

http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/anti-choicegallery.htm

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NordicPower
Wednesday, December 11th, 2002, 04:51 AM
hi again, please explain how these Americans in the link are
ultra aryan, they are from the movement.. wich I respect , but I cant figure out how they are so Nordic.. as far I see.. no different than me or an Italian, what do you say??

http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/anti-choicegallery.htm

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Some of them are, and some of them are not. What do you really care? I understand you feel insulted by the comparison to Turks. I also don't like hearing that Americans are some kind of Untermensch. I know whether this is true or not for myself and I don't need an outsider telling me how things are in my own land.
On the same note, I wasn't trying to say how it is in Spain or anywhere else just saying things how I thought they were. And who better to tell me if it's true or not that a real Spaniard?

Let's come to an agreement about the issue. I never said there weren't nordics in Spain or that the US is totally North European by blood. I especially would not say that anyone here is ultra-aryan. We don't have many people here who I would consider "Aryan" in the true sense of the word, as Onion Peeler defined it. And standing up for the movement is whats important.

I don't understand how people can (and always do) argue over such a trivial matter as who is nordic or not!

How about considering first who is Aryan in spirit?
How about deciding who can offer something to the movement and who is extra baggage?

And figuring out who can offer "a composite of intelligence, energy, character and appearance"????

These are the people I want to see more of, and honestly it makes no sense to put something as trivial as hair color or subrace over these qualities.

Hellstar
Wednesday, December 11th, 2002, 06:50 PM
Its kinda embarrassing to see this kind of egalitarian post from you.

Considering all your other posts, this is in opposition to yourself.

Maybe you should reconsider your position and solidify it.



HellStar:viking

Conquistador
Wednesday, December 11th, 2002, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by HELLSTAR
Its kinda embarrassing to see this kind of egalitarian post from you.

Considering all your other posts, this is in opposition to yourself.

Maybe you should reconsider your position and solidify it.



HellStar:viking

I think she realizes that fighting amongst ourselves is giving the Jews and all our other mud and semetic enemies from Africa and the Middle East more power over us. :erm

Hellstar
Wednesday, December 11th, 2002, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Conquistador
I think she realizes that fighting amongst ourselves is giving the Jews and all our other mud and semetic enemies from Africa and the Middle East more power over us. :erm

To me thats an old Jewish "dogma phrase" you live by,
-------------------------
(Sarcastic)
Ohhh if not all Aryans love each other?
then we die if we do not love each other!

its all our hate to each others fault (we feel this jew domination) and nothing else.
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then we dont fight and think our selves, thus not strengthen our folks?

this difference is forbidden we are all alike!
yet some of us are more close to other species with different agendas?

OK

do we agree that its not in the interest of Jews that we stay in diversities? (Just look at EU or USA)

good then we also agree by with conformity and Sub-Aryan miscegenation we destroy the essence of our race.

If we have no essence in our Aryan sub-race mass substance we are all genetic borderline filth with no race identity.

By obtaining the diversity in our genepolls we will not fall in battle of borderline filth mingling with less periphery Aryans!

My only brothers Is my Nordic comrades.

But to uphold corporation is in everyone's interest!
(except our common enemies right?)

So Its utterly stuns me how Nordicpower88 can be her own adversary in her quest.

things just speak for them self,

I do not wish to talk more about her.

HellStar:viking

Ederico
Wednesday, December 11th, 2002, 09:08 PM
I think I have to intervene to explain what Hellstar probably means with his last post, obviously this is my understanding of what he means, if I am incorrect I guess he has to speak out, while if he agrees he simply has to confirm it. I'll put what I understood in quotes and I shall then comment upon them.

1. Our attitude towards the dogma of Egalitarianism : While it is highly encouragable to be against the Politically-Correct dogma of Egalitarianism between the different Races of Humanity from an Aryan perspective, it is contradictory to hold Egalitarianism as a tenet to our Racial beliefs regarding our Sub-Racial differences

Personally, I perfectly agree with this.

2. Our attitude towards the practice of Miscegenation :
Again we find ourselves in contradiction on this matter, where we definitely abhor any Aryan and non-Aryan Miscegenation, while it is perfectly normal to Miscegenate the various Aryan Subraces. This is a contradictory attitude of most Aryan Racialists

Again I agree that this is a contradiction, and I believe that our Sub-Races must also retain a degree of purity which allows that our Sub-Races survive and prosper. Therefore, altough I personally would not erect legislature that would halt intra-Aryan Miscegenation, I would personally not encourage it either in a public manner.


3. Cherising the differences within our Aryanity does not go in contravention to a co-operation against our common enemies.


This is an absolute must.

@NP88
You really surprised me with your last post, that does not sound like you, it is in contradiction to what I believed where your own ideals.

NordicPower
Friday, December 13th, 2002, 01:30 AM
I think you are both misunderstanding the meaning of my post. What I am saying, and have been the whole time, is that it's pointless to argue who's nordic or not. I can easily tell for myself who is nordic. You will know if you are nordic if you look in the mirror.
People just don't want to accept the fact that they are meds, or alpines or who knows what else. (Why do they want to be what they are not? Racial nihilism?)

My point is that if there's someone who doesn't match the nordic ideal but has a lot to offer to our movement, I don't care! About my friends and about my choice of a mate, obviously I have more discrimination. I don't care much about a black haired, brown skinned, brown eyed med. and I'd rather be around people like me. But I think they have a right to survive in their own lands, and it would be wise to form some kind of an alliance with them or at least come to an understanding since we almost fight for the same thing. The parallel to Hitler's Alliance with Italy.

In no way did ever I say (or mean to say) that the subraces aren't different. They are, and they shouldn't mix. Thats why this arguing offends me so much.

I hope someone will finally understand what I mean......

goidelicwarrior
Friday, December 13th, 2002, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by NordicPower88
I think you are both misunderstanding the meaning of my post. What I am saying, and have been the whole time, is that it's pointless to argue who's nordic or not. I can easily tell for myself who is nordic. You will know if you are nordic if you look in the mirror.
People just don't want to accept the fact that they are meds, or alpines or who knows what else. (Why do they want to be what they are not? Racial nihilism?)

My point is that if there's someone who doesn't match the nordic ideal but has a lot to offer to our movement, I don't care! About my friends and about my choice of a mate, obviously I have more discrimination. I don't care much about a black haired, brown skinned, brown eyed med. and I'd rather be around people like me. But I think they have a right to survive in their own lands, and it would be wise to form some kind of an alliance with them or at least come to an understanding since we almost fight for the same thing. The parallel to Hitler's Alliance with Italy.

In no way did ever I say (or mean to say) that the subraces aren't different. They are, and they shouldn't mix. Thats why this arguing offends me so much.

I hope someone will finally understand what I mean......
black haired, brown skinned, brown eyed med.

Ordinary people..meds, where are the brown skin ( Spain )

x_zzz

goidelicwarrior
Friday, December 13th, 2002, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by triskel
black haired, brown skinned, brown eyed med.

Ordinary people..meds, where are the brown skin ( Spain )

x_zzz x_zzz x_zzz x_zzz

NordicPower
Friday, December 13th, 2002, 07:08 PM
They are not meds. Judging by hair and skin color at least predominantly nordish.

"Meds" the Mediterranean race doesn't have typically reddish-blond hair OR rosy white skin.

"The fleshy parts show perhaps more of an inclination than in the Nordic race to a slight fullness; the mouth is perhaps somewhat broader; the lips are fuller, slightly more puffed out; and the nose is perhaps rather more fleshy. The skin is brownish, and gives the impression of a warm suppleness. The blood hardly shows through, so that red cheeks are not usual; and the lips are bluish, cherry-coloured, rather than red. The texture of the hair is sometimes smooth or sleek, but oftener curly; each hair is thin and soft. The colouring is brown or black and has no golden undertone, such as is still found with very dark blond hair. The dark eyebrows are perhaps somewhat thicker than in the Nordic race. The beard is brown or black, and fairly thick.

The eyes are brown to brown-black, and likewise have a warm colour-tone. The expression of the eyes is lively, bright, and merry."

Blond or red hair in a med is a sign of nordish admixture. Obviously though, not everyone (although almost everyone) in Spain is a med........

Spain and Portugal = 85% West Mediterranean, 9% South Mediterranean, 5% Dinaric, 1% Nordic (most common in the remnants of the Visigoth aristocracy) = 1% Central Nordish

You must have the luck to live in a mostly nordic area......

NordicPower
Friday, December 13th, 2002, 07:22 PM
Here are some typical meds

Nordhammer
Saturday, December 14th, 2002, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by Conquistador
Here are a few examples of the Nordic and Central Nordic racial type that exists in Spain. These are pictures of certain Spanish female models from http://www.spanishmodels.net.

:eek:

This isn't Diablo is it?

There's nothing remotely Nordic or Nordish about Alexandra Aguilera, even with her dyed red hair. You need your eyes checked.

Nordhammer
Saturday, December 14th, 2002, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by NordicPower88
Some of them are, and some of them are not. What do you really care? I understand you feel insulted by the comparison to Turks. I also don't like hearing that Americans are some kind of Untermensch. I know whether this is true or not for myself and I don't need an outsider telling me how things are in my own land.
On the same note, I wasn't trying to say how it is in Spain or anywhere else just saying things how I thought they were. And who better to tell me if it's true or not that a real Spaniard?

Let's come to an agreement about the issue. I never said there weren't nordics in Spain or that the US is totally North European by blood. I especially would not say that anyone here is ultra-aryan. We don't have many people here who I would consider "Aryan" in the true sense of the word, as Onion Peeler defined it. And standing up for the movement is whats important.

I don't understand how people can (and always do) argue over such a trivial matter as who is nordic or not!

How about considering first who is Aryan in spirit?
How about deciding who can offer something to the movement and who is extra baggage?

These are the people I want to see more of, and honestly it makes no sense to put something as trivial as hair color or subrace over these qualities.

If you think this guy is a white European, much less Nordic, you've really got some vision problems.

Name: Jonathan O'Toole
Affiliation: Army of God
Personal Info:1600 N Centennial St. #47
Kirksville, Missouri 63501.
Comments: Featured on HBO Special "Inside the Army of God" in which he himself implies that what he is about is terrorism.

http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/images/johnathan.gif

"O'Toole", bullsht. He's straight Arab, classified as Orientalid, definitely out of the European racial range. This is the kind of degeneracy we get into when we use this amorphous "white" identity. "White" was only useful in old America, where most people were of northwestern European heritage. Now, it's a completely different ballgame, we have way too much racemixing and immigrants to use such a model.

He's the only one that's distinctly Nordish -http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/images/johnston.jpg

The rest are peripheral, with a few going into a more Alpine or Med range.

Hellstar
Saturday, December 14th, 2002, 04:22 AM
I agree Nordhammer. the term "White" (thus light skin pigmentation) is both invalid for our racial quest as it is a primitive teaching doctrine for the (specific population) which we want to enforce natural Knowledge upon.

Nordhammer where are you from?

Nordhammer
Saturday, December 14th, 2002, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by HELLSTAR
I agree Nordhammer. the term "White" (thus light skin pigmentation) is both invalid for our racial quest as it is a primitive teaching doctrine for the (specific population) which we want to enforce natural Knowledge upon.

Nordhammer where are you from?

Well met. I am from Georgia, USA. There are still some Southerners with some sense.

Conquistador
Sunday, December 15th, 2002, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by Nordhammer
This isn't Diablo is it?

There's nothing remotely Nordic or Nordish about Alexandra Aguilera, even with her dyed red hair. You need your eyes checked.

I'm not DiabloBlanco. :rolleyes:

Hamlet VI
Friday, January 17th, 2003, 06:22 AM
I'm sure I'm not the only one that finds it rather peculiar to see claims about northern Spain being Germanic/Nordic in race. It doesn't make much sense, considering that northern Spaniards and southern Frenchmen are pretty similiar (same invasions, same tribes) and southern Frenchmen aren't exactly 'germanic'. Oh, and there were different kinds of Celts. Most of the Celts that settled in Central and southern France and Spain were not of the tall blond variety but the shorter brown haired one. They were Alpine, I suppose.

Carranza
Saturday, January 18th, 2003, 12:28 AM
It feels kind of weird to post in a Northist Forum, I feel like I belong in "opposing views". Anyway, I´m just curious on your views on Meds: Are we as bad as the non-whites? I guess that for the US it would get complicated because there is nordic/med mixing. And in general if the WN movement has it rough, then a Nordist movement has it 10 times more rough, because you people don´t have our support. And it leaves out Spain, Italy, Grece, southern France and I guess eastern Europe also because they are alpine and not nordic.
I am a Stormfront member, but still curious on your ideas.

Hellstar
Saturday, January 18th, 2003, 12:37 AM
Listen and listen good,

I dont care if you are a member of Stormfront, Now you are a member here.

This is not some forum made to degrade Meds or anything. This is a forum for all Aryans. If you noticed we got one Administrator (Nazz) from South Europe and one Moderator from India, Mr Rahul, and he is Aryan yes.

People have different views and I couldn't care if they are Nordicists or Southerns, afterall it seems natural to be with your own kind that is what Nationalism is all about. the rumours you might have heard are properly from Southerns who got their ass beaten in some argument here, and then its suddenly dubbed the evil Nordic empire. its far from the truth, look around and you see people are different and are entitled to that. a coordination and Aryan allegiance is important as the world becomes depressingly international. we gotta work and focus on the main problems.


Welcome to AD.

OnionPeeler
Saturday, January 18th, 2003, 12:37 AM
To my knowledge, you're not in a Nordicist forum, Carranza, though some posters may take that position. This leads to heated debate considered divisive at SF. Tempers sometimes flare but we try to take it in stride and always remember the greater cause.

Welcome to the board.

Ederico
Saturday, January 18th, 2003, 12:39 AM
Who says we are a Nordicist Message Board? I am from Southern Europe although I am not Mediterrenean. As you can see I am an Administrator here and I have been a member from the beginning, everyone is welcomed here to express their opinion, perhaps most members here could be Nordic but that does not mean this is a Nordicist board. Although I doubt that most members here are Nordic.

We simply do not believe in restricting someone's opinion because it conflicts with some intra-Aryan Egalitarianism like they have at Stormfront. If you believe your Subrace is superior you are free to express it here if you express it civilly, if others cannot take that, it is their problem.

Carranza
Saturday, January 18th, 2003, 07:38 AM
Thank you for your words and for clearing out the misunderstanding. I´ll keep it in mind.

gundalb1118
Wednesday, January 29th, 2003, 09:41 PM
This is an interesting thread, Im from Spain and its true that some of our local people is not well known out of our soil.

We have a lot of Nordic migrations to this land in ancient times so is nothing strange to get red haired and blond people here. Its not the usual but some families have part of this blood on their genes and is nothing weird if me with dark hair and my gf got a child with blond hair... the white bloods are mixed.

A good example of non-blended blood is the Basque people of Northern Spain, they have never mixed with other peoples in their own history. Including other Spaniards from the South of the peninsule, Celtic or Nordic people... they are originals from the Caucaus and its still a mistery the origin of their own language. This is not about their crazy politics of secesion of our Spanish Nation but their racial origins.

By the other hand, we have in Spain the people bein mixed with the wrong part of visitors on this country. I mean: Arabs, Negroes, original dark jews or those fake jews converted during the middle ages.

Gundalb
gundalb1118@yahoo.es

Conquistador
Wednesday, January 29th, 2003, 09:56 PM
Welcome gundalb1118! x_cheers

gundalb1118
Wednesday, January 29th, 2003, 10:50 PM
Thanx to you Conquistador, for showing me this excellent site of discussion for Aryans.

You can call me Gundalb, its the original Germanic of my actual name

I got a sample to show to the people here, this is a personal pic of a cousin from me, its a perfect sample of some random common Spanish girls, they dont have dyed hair they are natural girls. Judge your racial opinion on them. There are also natural blonds, but the common kind of girl are this, they can dye their hair later.

This was a pic taken and published in the website of a local of some friends of mine, but better if some pervert doesnt start to move a personal pic just cause they are young girls. They are over 18 if someone is afraid of that. They were born in 1984.

My cousin is the girl in the middle of the pic with the white tanktop

You can post your own opinion of these real and common Spanish girls. They dont look like Turks to me.

Gundalb
Gundalb1118@yahoo.es

NordicPower
Wednesday, January 29th, 2003, 11:43 PM
All except one look like regular meds to me. Nothing wrong with that.

Hermod
Wednesday, January 29th, 2003, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by NordicPower88
I can't believe how dark they are! I never seen white people so dark. Mediteraneans are such a strange race to me.......

We don't have such dark Whites here. Heh, my hair is considered dark here, and its only reddish brown.

Meds

She would look ugly as blond, it would only diminish her original Aryan Mediterranean beauty.

Hermod
Wednesday, January 29th, 2003, 11:55 PM
Just look at this intact virtue of the true Aryan women!
Don't judge her by the Nordic standards wich are foreign to the Mediterranean hart lands of Europe.

Nordhammer
Thursday, January 30th, 2003, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by gundalb1118

My cousin is the girl in the middle of the pic with the white tanktop

You can post your own opinion of these real and common Spanish girls. They dont look like Turks to me.

Gundalb
Gundalb1118@yahoo.es

She looks the best: skin is a little lighter, hair is lighter, eyes are lighter. She is assimilable into the Nordish ranks, the rest are not.

NordicPower
Thursday, January 30th, 2003, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by Hermod
She would look ugly as blond, it would only diminish her original Aryan Mediterranean beauty.

Just look at this intact virtue of the true Aryan women!
Don't judge her by the Nordic standards wich are foreign to the Mediterranean hart lands of Europe.

Well I never said she should dye her hair! I was just expressing foriegn awe of different racial types. You could take it as a compliment.

Anyway, I'll always judge by nordic standards, it's in my blood.

Hermod
Thursday, January 30th, 2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by NordicPower88

Anyway, I'll always judge by nordic standards, it's in my blood. [/B]

That's much like judging a Pit Bull by the standards of French Poodle. One light year from commune sense.

Conquistador
Thursday, January 30th, 2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Hermod
That's much like judging a Pit Bull by the standards of a French Poodle. One light year from commune sense.

She does have common sense, albeit misguided. :confused:

gundalb1118
Friday, January 31st, 2003, 09:52 PM
Well, its very sad to say that Med girls use to dye their hair blond in thousands. A lot of them like to appear blond, that works if they are very light skinned and a nice face to resemble original blondes... but, most of times they look just fake.

Very sad, and very stupid. Trying to be what you are not is wasting time for me.

Surely, real nordish people will see this as I do. Its good to see when some people from here show original Nordish racial characteristiques but that is not a thing from this land, even when its very common to see people with Nordish between us.

The blend is very deep and very ancient here, its so normal to see red haired people as blond or dark haired. Celts were in this land in very ancient times, they can consider themselves locals from this land too.

Its not very easy to determine an only sub-ethnic aryan group for this land. Are very different types of Aryans here. Meds are the highest percent, but they are not the only ones here in Spain.

Gundalb
Gundalb1118@yahoo.es

Conquistador
Friday, January 31st, 2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by gundalb1118
Well, its very sad to say that Med girls use to dye their hair blond in thousands. A lot of them like to appear blond, that works if they are very light skinned and a nice face to resemble original blondes... but, most of times they look just fake.

Very sad, and very stupid. Trying to be what you are not is wasting time for me.

Surely, real nordish people will see this as I do. Its good to see when some people from here show original Nordish racial characteristiques but that is not a thing from this land, even when its very common to see people with Nordish between us.

The blend is very deep and very ancient here, its so normal to see red haired people as blond or dark haired. Celts were in this land in very ancient times, they can consider themselves locals from this land too.

Its not very easy to determine an only sub-ethnic aryan group for this land. Are very different types of Aryans here. Meds are the highest percent, but they are not the only ones here in Spain.

Gundalb
Gundalb1118@yahoo.es

¿Gundalb, es verdad que la región de Asturias tenga muchos los rubios y los pelirrojos mientras las otras regiones no los tienen sino solamente pocos? Si usted no entiende a mi español es a causa de que llevo cinco a seis años estudiando el idioma y es algo mal...más o menos.

gundalb1118
Friday, January 31st, 2003, 11:58 PM
Tranquilo Conquistador, tu Español es MUY bueno y de calidad, se te entiende perfectamente.

Your doubts about your Spanish have not a base, you speak well perhaps some words are not correct at the end of your text but the rest is OK.

The greatest harm against correct Spanish are the people from Latin America.

I hope people in the USA dont forget that Latin and Spanish are terms that come from White Europe and those natives using our language are nothing but trash of our old Empire. Im not one of those stupids dreaming with the glory past days of my nation, but they are a consequence of our rule on American lands from California to Florida, from Mexico to Argentina.

Sometimes I heard words of hate from Anglosaxons in the US against Spanish, well is normal. English used to be the worse enemies of the Spanish Empire, and most of Whites in America are nothing but English-American people.

You asked me about the race of people in Asturias... well, I can say this to you, that place was a main stronghold of Celts even before the Roman conquest of Spain. But if you see to the west of Asturias, in Galicia, that land still got a Gaelic name. That was the other main stronghold of Celts some of them were some provinces to the south of Galicia and Asturias, the other part of the peninsule were composed by Iberos so the ancient pre-Romanic Spain was called Celtiberia. The Basques are a different people with nothing in common with Celts or Iberos. Perhaps other Spanish will told you something against this but they are watching the facts behing the crystal of their political ideology, the Basque racial origins are one thing, and the political ideologies of the Basques is other.

Hope my words help you

Gundalb
Gundalb1118@yahoo.es

Conquistador
Saturday, February 1st, 2003, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by gundalb1118
Tranquilo Conquistador, tu Español es MUY bueno y de calidad, se te entiende perfectamente.

Your doubts about your Spanish have not a base, you speak well perhaps some words are not correct at the end of your text but the rest is OK.

The greatest harm against correct Spanish are the people from Latin America.

I hope people in the USA dont forget that Latin and Spanish are terms that come from White Europe and those natives using our language are nothing but trash of our old Empire. Im not one of those stupids dreaming with the glory past days of my nation, but they are a consequence of our rule on American lands from California to Florida, from Mexico to Argentina.

Sometimes I heard words of hate from Anglosaxons in the US against Spanish, well is normal. English used to be the worse enemies of the Spanish Empire, and most of Whites in America are nothing but English-American people.

You asked me about the race of people in Asturias... well, I can say this to you, that place was a main stronghold of Celts even before the Roman conquest of Spain. But if you see to the west of Asturias, in Galicia, that land still got a Gaelic name. That was the other main stronghold of Celts some of them were some provinces to the south of Galicia and Asturias, the other part of the peninsule were composed by Iberos so the ancient pre-Romanic Spain was called Celtiberia. The Basques are a different people with nothing in common with Celts or Iberos. Perhaps other Spanish will told you something against this but they are watching the facts behing the crystal of their political ideology, the Basque racial origins are one thing, and the political ideologies of the Basques is other.

Hope my words help you

Gundalb
Gundalb1118@yahoo.es

Your words did help me. But I already knew most the information that you gave to me, mainly about the sub-racial differences of Spain and of the history. As for America, the White population is around 50% of German descent, 30% of English descent, 10% of Irish descent the rest of the 10% is from other European nationalities.
Latin American Spanish, especially the Mexican accent, is really fake and weak in my opinion. Unlike Castillian Spanish, Mexican Spanish is usually ugly-sounding and high-pitched, and that's due to the influence from the Nauhatl language, the language of the Aztecs. The only Latin American Spanish accent that I do accept is the accent of Argentina, which is musical in a way due to Italian influence.
No pueden pronunciar los indios la lengua española correctamente. Solamente los europeos blancos y otros blancos del resto del mundo pueden hablar español más mejor que los indios de mierda en los américas. Lo sé porque antes yo los he oído hablarlo. Jamás no me gustará el habla de los indios y mestizos.

Hamlet VI
Thursday, February 6th, 2003, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by triskel
what is there to find out??? and no big burger is going to compare me with a Turk.. how many americanos dont you think looks like turks ?? the question was quite stupid, first we must ask ourselves.. what is an American or what is an Italian, how come that when a "Spaniard" is dark he is an ethnic Spaniard but a dark American is exused with " hes not a real American" I dont consider a Gypsy or Moorish person my kin any more than an Anglo saxon considers a Mexican his kin, hope you get the message !!!

14

Actually, some Spaniards themselves often try to excuse away dark Spaniards by claiming that they're gypsies. And then they'll go and post a picture of a Nordic Spaniard as if to prove something, when in all reality the average Spaniard's appearance is neither gypsy nor Nordic.

Nordhammer
Thursday, February 6th, 2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Conquistador
Your words did help me. But I already knew most the information that you gave to me, mainly about the sub-racial differences of Spain and of the history. As for America, the White population is around 50% of German descent, 30% of English descent, 10% of Irish descent the rest of the 10% is from other European nationalities.


The German isn't quite that high, but relatively, you are right; to many people's surprise, white American's are mostly of German descent! It comes in at around 25%. English is about 15%, Irish 10%, Scottish around 8%, Scandinavians around 5% and other Central, Eastern and Southern Europeans. By far the majority of white Americans are of Nordish racial extraction. Those are estimated numbers as I don't have the link to the specific recorded figures. The English or British might be higher still, because of the "Old American" category, which was mostly of English descent and accounted for a good 10-15% of white Americans.