Greeks and Italians. Like the Turks?

[Reno]

Honestly, I can't differentiate by looking at Greeks, Italians, Spainish or Turks. Should any of these countries be allowed to join the EU?

[Legio_Melita]

Nordics have a hard time identifying between them, just as most Italians would have a hard time identifying between someone from Denmark and someone from Finland.
Nothern-most Italians tend to have wavy brown hair, and some even have aqua eyes. The rest of the Italians have dark to chestnut brown hair, and mostly hazel eyes, although there is still a presence of aqua eyes.
The Spanish tend to have a slightly more tanned complexion then the Italians, and finding blondes and people with blue eyes is a bit harder here.
Greeks tend to have a light complexion like the Italians, however, hair and eye colour trends are more similar to the Spaniards.
In the case of the Turks, most have very wavy to curly hair, and the hair tends to be a lot frizzier. The eyes are usually dark brown, and the skin is also very dark, when compared to the rest of the mediterranean countries (Italy, Greece, Spain, Southern France, etc). Turks also share a few mongoloid features. (Reason being that only 15% of Turkey touches European border).

I hope I was accurate enough in this.

And as regards your question, no, I don't think Turkey should enter the EU.

[NordicPower]

Turks and Spaniards are the darkest and most non-white. But I wouldn't say Turks are anywhere on the same racial level as any Europeans, some europeans may be mixed, but Turkey is almost totally non-white.

[Legio_Melita]

Turkey is, in fact, the purest of the Islamic countries. There is almost no racial mixing in the country, and thus they are all in the purest form of their dark sub-race. Spaniards however have mixed with the Dutch, Portuguese, and in very small numbers with French and English.

[Ross]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Turks and Spaniards are the darkest and most non-white. But I wouldn't say Turks are anywhere on the same racial level as any Europeans, some europeans may be mixed, but Turkey is almost totally non-white.

"Non-white"? What does it mean? Non-Caucasoid? Non-Nordish?

Richard is hardly an anthropologist...

According to Nazi sources Italy had 15% of Nordic/Nordish population (and France 25%).

I don't know about Spain but Spaniards look lighter than Italians to me.

[Legio_Melita]

Actually you're very wrong, Spain has a huge African persuasion, namely from Morocco. Have you ever heard of the "Moors"?

[NordicPower]

Thats what I'm saying, there are for the most part arab or african mixed race types very prevalent in Spain.

Turks look more like people from India than White. They certainly don't act White, and don't fit in a country like Germany. They may be "caucasoid" but they are not Aryan.

Spain and Portugal = 85% West Mediterranean, 9% South Mediterranean, 5% Dinaric, 1% Nordic (most common in the remnants of the Visigoth aristocracy) = 1% Central Nordish


Italy = 50% Dinaricized Mediterranean (most common in the south and Sicily), 20% Dinaric (most common in the north), 15% Alpine (most common in the northwest), 10% West Mediterranean (most common in Sardinia), 4% Noric (most common in the north, 1% Nordic (most common in the remnants of the Ostrogoth and Lombard aristocracy) = 5% Nordish (1% central and 4% periphery types). Italy, much like the other southern European countries of the Mediterranean region -- Spain, Portugal and Greece -- experienced several waves of Nordish invasions during ancient and early Medieval times, from the Danubians (circa 2,000-1,500 B.C.), who brought the Indo-European language that developed into Latin, and the Kelts (beginning circa 500 B.C.), to the Germanic Ostrogoths and Lombards (A.D. 400-700). These Nordish elements have been gradually assimilated into the majority Mediterranean population, but some of their genetic traits, existing in solution, occasionally recombine to appear in individuals whose other traits are mostly non-Nordish.

Turkey: 25% Irano-Afghan race, 5-25% Turanid race common (partially hybridized with Mongoloids), 35% Dinaricized Mediterranean, (unspecified %) East Mediterranean

The only thing wrong with these charts is that they don't say that mixed race individuals of partially mediterranean and arabic or african heritage are still counted as mediterranean even though they are mixed race.

[Legio_Melita]

I don't consider Turks as Caucasian, they have too much Mongoloid in them.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by D_SINNER
I don't consider Turks as Caucasian, they have too much Mongoloid in them.

Yes but some people would even say Arabs are caucasian......
It's a very bad grouping because it puts us together with non-whites. There are of course SOME Whites in Turkey, and some in India too, but the majority in those countries are not white, just mixed race with slight Aryan remnants.

[Legio_Melita]

I completely agree.

There are various sub races of Caucasian, but Turks and north Africans are certainly not close to any of them.

[Conquistador]

Not all Spaniards have Arab or "African" genes. After the Reconquest was finalized, Isabella I, made sure that anyone who wasn't Christian/European White were expelled from Castile and Aragon; first the Jews and then the Arabs. In the early 17th century over 600,000 moorish-mixed mongrels were expelled from Spain due to their dealings with the Turks in trying to take over the Kingdom. Spaniards, NOW, are a composite of Nordic and Mediterraean sub-types. Nordic blood is more stronger in the Northern Regions than in the south. However, there is still a small annoying Jewish strain that still exists in certain blood lines. But now, due non-white Mestizo/Indian and Moroccan immigration into Spain, I fear that the existing white population of Spain will be bred out into extinction.

[Ross]

Originally posted by Conquistador
Not all Spaniards have Arab or "African" genes. After the Reconquest was finalized, Isabella I, made sure that anyone who wasn't Christian/European White were expelled from Castile and Aragon; first the Jews and then the Arabs. In the early 17th century over 600,000 moorish-mixed mongrels were expelled from Spain due to their dealings with the Turks in trying to take over the Kingdom. Spaniards, NOW, are a composite of Nordic and Mediterraean sub-types. Nordic blood is more stronger in the Northern Regions than in the south. However, there is still a small annoying Jewish strain that still exists in certain blood lines. But now, due non-white Mestizo/Indian and Moroccan immigration into Spain, I fear that the existing white population of Spain will be bred out into extinction.

Spain has a considerable (23%?) blue eyed minority...

IMO, Spain is whiter than Italy

[Hellstar]

Originally posted by Ross
Spain has a considerable (23%?) blue eyed minority...

IMO, Spain is whiter than Italy

I seriously doubt that!

I been to both countries as Visitor and i know my Race biological science well.

[Hellstar]

Spain and Portugal =

85% West Mediterranean, 9% South Mediterranean, 5% Dinaric, 1% Nordic (most common in the remnants of the Visigoth aristocracy) = 1% Central Nordish



Italy =

50% Dinaricized Mediterranean (most common in the south and Sicily), 20% Dinaric (most common in the north), 15% Alpine (most common in the northwest), 10% West Mediterranean (most common in Sardinia), 4% Noric (most common in the north, 1% Nordic (most common in the remnants of the Ostrogoth and Lombard aristocracy) = 5% Nordish (1% central and 4% periphery types). Italy, much like the other southern European countries of the Mediterranean region -- Spain, Portugal and Greece -- experienced several waves of Nordish invasions during ancient and early Medieval times, from the Danubians (circa 2,000-1,500 B.C.), who brought the Indo-European language that developed into Latin, and the Kelts (beginning circa 500 B.C.), to the Germanic Ostrogoths and Lombards (A.D. 400-700). These Nordish elements have been gradually assimilated into the majority Mediterranean population, but some of their genetic traits, existing in solution, occasionally recombine to appear in individuals whose other traits are mostly non-Nordish.

[Ross]

Have you read Coon's chapter on Spain? ;-)

[Conquistador]

Originally posted by HELLSTAR
I seriously doubt that!

I been to both countries as Visitor and i know my Race biological science well.

HELLSTAR, which part of Spain did you visit? The northern regions have a higher porportion of Nordic and Celtic blood than the southern regions. The Celts usually settled in the Northern part of Iberia before the Romans took over. The Vikings usually traded with the Northern Christian Kingdoms of Asturias and Cantabria by their Irish Sea commerce routes and often intermarried with the local women there.

[Hellstar]

I was first shortly in the North and then I spend alittle time down Barcelona. but i also met alot of Spanish people.

I happen to find Spain a pretty neutral country now. Just look at the new German tourist investigation.

[Prometheus]

There are quite a few Turks that are of European descent, but those that aren't, are clearly different and more closely resemble central asians.

[Seppl]

To the question of Greeks, Italians, Spaniards & Turks, it's a very broad characterization. On the whole I class Aryans being mainly concentrated North of the Meditterrean. This is a distinct racial frontier, in the case of Italy there is a major difference between North & South not just economically. The North is "Aryan" being predominately Alpine, Dinaric & Western Meditterrean with a strong Nordic strain, particularly in the Upper classes.
Southern Italy has suffered non-Aryan admixture since the fall of Rome. There is considerable Semitic & even some Negro strains in the general population. Although, some blondes appear in the South in isolated areas.
Greece, I almost write off completely, as being too racially tainted for the most part. The Ancient Greeks & Modern Greeks are too different races. The Aryan component exists in Alpine, Meditterean,Dinaric & even some Nordic strains exist in isolated areas. By & large the Greeks have assimilated a lot of Turkic & Semitic blood one can't tell them apart from Turks. My sister married a Greek & he is as dark as a Pakistani, she poluted the gene pool by having a child by him, eventhough the boy looks "Aryan" he has Dark eyes like a Semite.
Spaniards, for the mostpart I consider Aryan, as with Italy there is a North/South racial frontier. I have met many Spaniards who would pass for Central or Northern Europeans. Look at the US Actor Martin Sheen (Estavez) he has brown hair,Green Eyes & Fair Skin, his parents were Spanish. Antonio Banderas is a classic "Aryan" Mediterrean. In the South especially around Granada, their is strong 'Moorish" admixture. Which is Arab with some Nigger strains.Spain contributed very much to European History & Culture, they were great Sailors, discoverers & Conquerers.
Turks are not even European, Turks are Subhuman mainly Turkic(Turanian), Semitic and Amernid. The few "Aryan" looking Turks are descendants of Aryans captured in the Balkans, when it was under Turkish occupation for 5 Centuries.We have to draw the line somewhere to who is "Aryan" & who isn't!
:viking

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Turks and Spaniards are the darkest and most non-white. But I wouldn't say Turks are anywhere on the same racial level as any Europeans, some europeans may be mixed, but Turkey is almost totally non-white.

And how would you know? coming from the Mecca of racial mixing and led by a jew government!!! x_nono

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by D_SINNER
Actually you're very wrong, Spain has a huge African persuasion, namely from Morocco. Have you ever heard of the "Moors"?

Yes I have my Maltese buddy, they where explelled twice!!
If you vare to read a bit more you will find out that the " moors "
where mostly berbers, a caucaisan race, before mixed recently and aumented by elements of islamized Vandals e.t.c.

Do your homemwork pleasex_nono

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Seppl
To the question of Greeks, Italians, Spaniards & Turks, it's a very broad characterization. On the whole I class Aryans being mainly concentrated North of the Meditterrean. This is a distinct racial frontier, in the case of Italy there is a major difference between North & South not just economically. The North is "Aryan" being predominately Alpine, Dinaric & Western Meditterrean with a strong Nordic strain, particularly in the Upper classes.
Southern Italy has suffered non-Aryan admixture since the fall of Rome. There is considerable Semitic & even some Negro strains in the general population. Although, some blondes appear in the South in isolated areas.
Greece, I almost write off completely, as being too racially tainted for the most part. The Ancient Greeks & Modern Greeks are too different races. The Aryan component exists in Alpine, Meditterean,Dinaric & even some Nordic strains exist in isolated areas. By & large the Greeks have assimilated a lot of Turkic & Semitic blood one can't tell them apart from Turks. My sister married a Greek & he is as dark as a Pakistani, she poluted the gene pool by having a child by him, eventhough the boy looks "Aryan" he has Dark eyes like a Semite.
Spaniards, for the mostpart I consider Aryan, as with Italy there is a North/South racial frontier. I have met many Spaniards who would pass for Central or Northern Europeans. Look at the US Actor Martin Sheen (Estavez) he has brown hair,Green Eyes & Fair Skin, his parents were Spanish. Antonio Banderas is a classic "Aryan" Mediterrean. In the South especially around Granada, their is strong 'Moorish" admixture. Which is Arab with some Nigger strains.Spain contributed very much to European History & Culture, they were great Sailors, discoverers & Conquerers.
Turks are not even European, Turks are Subhuman mainly Turkic(Turanian), Semitic and Amernid. The few "Aryan" looking Turks are descendants of Aryans captured in the Balkans, when it was under Turkish occupation for 5 Centuries.We have to draw the line somewhere to who is "Aryan" & who isn't!
:viking

a pitty that so many fail to understand what you just wrote, well said!!!!!!!!

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Reno
Honestly, I can't differentiate by looking at Greeks, Italians, Spainish or Turks. Should any of these countries be allowed to join the EU?

Hey, the Italians where one of the founders of the EU:eek:
Spain, Italy and Greece are far more aryan than the US where race mixing with non whites soon will make whites a minority, togehter with the lack of European culture you are doomed.
Jay Leno and Michael Jackson followed by Puff Daddy
x_nono The question should be.. if Europe is gonna continue its co operation with a mongrelized nation led by jewsx_barf

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by triskel
And how would you know? coming from the Mecca of racial mixing and led by a jew government!!! x_nono

Why do you go around trying to provoke moderators and especially me, a supermoderator? Isn't that a little bit foolish on your part?

On the other hand, these comments have nothing to do with me, I come from a pure family in a land of the impure. I am more nordic than many Europeans! You think I like the jew government? If I did, why would I be in this forum discussing how to overrun it?!?

We still have plenty of Aryans here (70%), including some perfect examples of the übermensch. Those are the only people in this country that I care about, and the only people who I fight to save.

What motives do you have to provoke other racialists?
The United States was at one time a nation solely for North Europeans. This is the kind of country I want to see again, with the jewish rule totally annihilated.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Thats what I'm saying, there are for the most part arab or african mixed race types very prevalent in Spain.

Turks look more like people from India than White. They certainly don't act White, and don't fit in a country like Germany. They may be "caucasoid" but they are not Aryan.

Spain and Portugal = 85% West Mediterranean, 9% South Mediterranean, 5% Dinaric, 1% Nordic (most common in the remnants of the Visigoth aristocracy) = 1% Central Nordish


Italy = 50% Dinaricized Mediterranean (most common in the south and Sicily), 20% Dinaric (most common in the north), 15% Alpine (most common in the northwest), 10% West Mediterranean (most common in Sardinia), 4% Noric (most common in the north, 1% Nordic (most common in the remnants of the Ostrogoth and Lombard aristocracy) = 5% Nordish (1% central and 4% periphery types). Italy, much like the other southern European countries of the Mediterranean region -- Spain, Portugal and Greece -- experienced several waves of Nordish invasions during ancient and early Medieval times, from the Danubians (circa 2,000-1,500 B.C.), who brought the Indo-European language that developed into Latin, and the Kelts (beginning circa 500 B.C.), to the Germanic Ostrogoths and Lombards (A.D. 400-700). These Nordish elements have been gradually assimilated into the majority Mediterranean population, but some of their genetic traits, existing in solution, occasionally recombine to appear in individuals whose other traits are mostly non-Nordish.

Turkey: 25% Irano-Afghan race, 5-25% Turanid race common (partially hybridized with Mongoloids), 35% Dinaricized Mediterranean, (unspecified %) East Mediterranean

The only thing wrong with these charts is that they don't say that mixed race individuals of partially mediterranean and arabic or african heritage are still counted as mediterranean even though they are mixed race.

A humble question... have you visited Spain? or are these phrases ecchoes of Mccullough?

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[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Reno
Honestly, I can't differentiate by looking at Greeks, Italians, Spainish or Turks. Should any of these countries be allowed to join the EU?

Reno.. arent you stepping into thin ice? I am Spanish..?? appearence isent all, its the way we live and our history and traditions that we share, remember thatx_nono

Are you joking:eek: Italy was one of the founders of EU, Spain one its most important members, it seems you dont know to much of Europe... lastly one of our contributions to your great nation... is he a turk???? my god, he from our land and you should be grateful to have such an aryan instead of the mud peoples invading you!!

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[Hellstar]

Originally posted by triskel
Italy was one of the founders of EU, Spain one its most important members, it seems you dont know to much of Europe...
it is beyond my belief that the Moderators tolerate your use of copy Spam here. Listen you little Europe freak! its countries like Spain and Italy who cost the north a fortune. So far we only lost money on being a member of a EU. But this has not much to do with money it has to with Globalisation. Spain has cost a fortune so far and its just what the Jews want. a mixed helpless mass ruled by one finance. what about Spain having most Junkies and Aids cases per percent in Europe? are you going to do something about it!

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by HELLSTAR
it is beyond my belief that the Moderators tolerate your use of copy Spam here. Listen you little Europe freak! its countries like Spain and Italy who cost the north a fortune. So far we only lost money on being a member of a EU. But this has not much to do with money it has to with Globalisation. Spain has cost a fortune so far and its just what the Jews want. a mixed helpless mass ruled by one finance. what about Spain having most Junkies and Aids cases per percent in Europe? are you going to do something about it!

why so agressive... you post quite a lot yourself...
if its all about money I suggest you get out of the EU!, I am not a fan of the EU either but you should be a bit careful in your language.. by the way, if you are so negative towards the Med area why did you go to Barcelona?? hundreds of thousands Scandinavians think its a nice place to live in( permanently)

And about junkies, ever been to Christiania???

[Hellstar]

Originally posted by triskel
why so agressive... you post quite a lot yourself...
Yes I do, but i dont spam! I post my own subjective thoughts on stuff mostly and try show a more human side here.
if its all about money I suggest you get out of the EU!, Maybe you misunderstand me, its not about money for me, but im telling you some facts because you tell us all how much spain/Italy has done for us!
I have the opposite to say!
I want out of EU also. its pathetic. Im fighting to get out of it everyday and i have convinced several landsmen here.
I am not a fan of the EU either but you should be a bit careful in your language.. by the way, if you are so negative towards the Med area why did you go to Barcelona?? hundreds of thousands Scandinavians think its a nice place to live in( permanently) The vacation was free and it was some time ago. I didnt enjoy it really! The scandinaviens who choose to live down there, its mostly Old hells angels bikers or people who want to escape our high taxes up here
And about junkies, ever been to Christiania???
Yea maybe a thousand times. Heroin was banned at Christiania in the early 80th.

there are 5 rules:

No biker back marks!
No cameras or police!
No hard drugs!
No violence between people!
No running or screaming loud!

Im sad to say that violence part is not true. several people have been executed there over the years. I been in a couple of fights there with mainly hip hoppers and seen many others fight each other. once I saw a gang beat up this homeless man and was pissing down his mouth while he was in coma. that sicken me, Me and Azazel R.I.P and Sailor from this forum found a dead man out there once (4 years ago). somebody clutch his scull with a bat. The place was first pretty humanistic but changed character in the mid 90th. I dont like the place really.


Maybe it would of been more appropriate of you to of said: ever been to Istedgade? see thats the true Junkie Place here. Police are not afraid to come on Istedgade but they keep away from Christinia without back up force on 150 cops atleast in street fight uniforms.

Again it doesn't take away the fact that you have more junkies does it? the numbers of Junkies here has been stable on around 12000 since 1977.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by triskel
with all respect I am not provoking anyone, I am a stormfront member, but some of these threads like " i cant differ a turk from an italian" do you think its beneficial to the western white cause ???? and this thread, you say 70% in the US are white.. sure, but in the name of truth.. how many are extreme Nordics like in YOUR pics??? its a game of the hottest pics, beleive me I am for the WHOLE western world white preservation without jews e.t.c. but insults leads nowhere or what do you think???
I am from the Northern Spanish coast where moors or immigrants have never been, so we inhabit this area since preroman times and dont wish to be compared with mixed race turks or scum from a crack nigger hood, Thank You! since you like pics here are one of us from Cantabria!!!!!!!!

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Yes, I don't know about the rest of the US but where I live we have about 80% White, most of them are perfect examples of the keltic subrace. We have a few Halstatt-nordic types but it's a lot more rare. Then, we also have some people of this inferior blond or redhead type who are fat, freckled and have concave-pug noses.

I don't think this thread was set out to demean Spaniards, but with all respect you have to admit that a lot of them are mixed. We definitely have mixed race examples here, even more and more lately, and I don't try to deny it. Of course I'm not mixed race, and I have reason to believe you aren't either, so why should this offend you?

Here are some (what I see as) typical Americans from the old times up till today:

[NordicPower]

Typical WHITE American children:

[Marduk]

Originally posted by D_SINNER
Actually you're very wrong, Spain has a huge African persuasion, namely from Morocco. Have you ever heard of the "Moors"?

On the first hand, the europeans of the middle-age used to call a moor someone who was muslim, regardless his race; on the second hand, the moors were mostly berber who used to be white in those days. There are still white berber in Northern Africa, for example the french soccer player Zinedine Zidane.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Yes, I don't know about the rest of the US but where I live we have about 80% White, most of them are perfect examples of the keltic subrace. We have a few Halstatt-nordic types but it's a lot more rare. Then, we also have some people of this inferior blond or redhead type who are fat, freckled and have concave-pug noses.

I don't think this thread was set out to demean Spaniards, but with all respect you have to admit that a lot of them are mixed. We definitely have mixed race examples here, even more and more lately, and I don't try to deny it. Of course I'm not mixed race, and I have reason to believe you aren't either, so why should this offend you?

Here are some (what I see as) typical Americans from the old times up till today:

A lot are mixed?? hardly, familly is important stuff in Spain, most dont mix with niggers or gypsies, its not NY you know, where everybody copulates with everybody, Arthur Kemp estimated them to be around 10-15% and they are mostly gypsies, gypsies are not ethnic Spaniards for one, secondly just because you are have brown eyes and hair doesent make you mixed, in that case you must classify huge parts of ALL Europe and the uS mixed, also its nice for your area that all are your dreamtype, however you must consider the whole of America and if I am not mistaking whites of ALL types will be a minority in 50 years wich means you have 55%mixed types if you dont vote your jewish leaders out of office.. not out to demean Spaniards ?? if you are the moderator, how can allow some moron to compare Christian Spaniards that gave 800 years to kick out muslim scum from Europe to be compared with asiatic turks????????

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here are children of the north coast, hopefully they wont learn to listen to eminem rather Verdi, culture is also VERY important not only appearence!!

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Conquistador
Not all Spaniards have Arab or "African" genes. After the Reconquest was finalized, Isabella I, made sure that anyone who wasn't Christian/European White were expelled from Castile and Aragon; first the Jews and then the Arabs. In the early 17th century over 600,000 moorish-mixed mongrels were expelled from Spain due to their dealings with the Turks in trying to take over the Kingdom. Spaniards, NOW, are a composite of Nordic and Mediterraean sub-types. Nordic blood is more stronger in the Northern Regions than in the south. However, there is still a small annoying Jewish strain that still exists in certain blood lines. But now, due non-white Mestizo/Indian and Moroccan immigration into Spain, I fear that the existing white population of Spain will be bred out into extinction.

this whole thread is laughable, what the fu** do you people know about if there are "prevalent" african or marrocan strains, what I dont understand is how you sit there spewing out nonsens about something you know nothing aboutx_nono

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by triskel
A lot are mixed?? hardly, familly is important stuff in Spain, most dont mix with niggers or gypsies, its not NY you know, where everybody copulates with everybody, Arthur Kemp estimated them to be around 10-15% and they are mostly gypsies, gypsies are not ethnic Spaniards for one, secondly just because you are have brown eyes and hair doesent make you mixed, in that case you must classify huge parts of ALL Europe and the uS mixed, also its nice for your area that all are your dreamtype, however you must consider the whole of America and if I am not mistaking whites of ALL types will be a minority in 50 years wich means you have 55%mixed types if you dont vote your jewish leaders out of office.. not out to demean Spaniards ?? if you are the moderator, how can allow some moron to compare Christian Spaniards that gave 800 years to kick out muslim scum from Europe to be compared with asiatic turks????????

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here are children of the north coast, hopefully they wont learn to listen to eminem rather Verdi, culture is also VERY important not only appearence!!

No, not everybody is my "dreamtyp" actually, but I'm saying that this is what the original white stock of the US looks/looked like, and those make up about 50% the other 30% are alpine/mediterranean subraces, and the REST are non-white. There are also some people with traces of nonwhite ancestry, and people who are completely a mix of all white subraces. And maybe 1-2% race mixed here where I live.

Actually, I am the one who said that Spaniards are White. Short of deleting the thread or warning this guy, there nothing more I can do! But I'm not warning anyone here because I think this is a valid question, and a valid thread. The thread may be closed if it starts taking the wrong direction though......

Anyway, if Spain is not mixed to some extent how do you explain people like this?

[Stríbog]

If we are going to go anywhere, I think we need to clearly define our boundaries. Turks were originally completely Mongoloid and were closely tied to the Huns and Mongols. The Turks in what is today Turkey are mixed with Dinaric and Mediterranean (and even some Nordic). Many people mistake them for Semitic/Arabic, when in fact they are not at all, they are a mixture of white and Mongol.
The fact is, that no region that has been occupied for long periods of time by non-whites can remain purely white. Yes, there ARE still pure Nordics in Spain, Italy, and Greece, but for each pure Nord, how many half-white mongrels are there? Most of Spain was occupied by Moors for 800 years, Greece and the Balkans were similarly occupied by Turks for centuries, and southern Italy was full of Semites and even some Negroids that had been imported as slaves by the Romans. Again, I am not insulting any of these countries, and I recognize the many Aryans that they produce, but the historical record must be taken into account when considering their ethnic and racial makeup.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
No, not everybody is my "dreamtyp" actually, but I'm saying that this is what the original white stock of the US looks/looked like, and those make up about 50% the other 30% are alpine/mediterranean subraces, and the REST are non-white. There are also some people with traces of nonwhite ancestry, and people who are completely a mix of all white subraces. And maybe 1-2% race mixed here where I live.

Actually, I am the one who said that Spaniards are White. Short of deleting the thread or warning this guy, there nothing more I can do! But I'm not warning anyone here because I think this is a valid question, and a valid thread. The thread may be closed if it starts taking the wrong direction though......

Anyway, if Spain is not mixed to some extent how do you explain people like this?

who are they?? does not look like ethnic Spaniards, probably recent immigrants:amok

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by NordischesBlutundEhre
If we are going to go anywhere, I think we need to clearly define our boundaries. Turks were originally completely Mongoloid and were closely tied to the Huns and Mongols. The Turks in what is today Turkey are mixed with Dinaric and Mediterranean (and even some Nordic). Many people mistake them for Semitic/Arabic, when in fact they are not at all, they are a mixture of white and Mongol.
The fact is, that no region that has been occupied for long periods of time by non-whites can remain purely white. Yes, there ARE still pure Nordics in Spain, Italy, and Greece, but for each pure Nord, how many half-white mongrels are there? Most of Spain was occupied by Moors for 800 years, Greece and the Balkans were similarly occupied by Turks for centuries, and southern Italy was full of Semites and even some Negroids that had been imported as slaves by the Romans. Again, I am not insulting any of these countries, and I recognize the many Aryans that they produce, but the historical record must be taken into account when considering their ethnic and racial makeup.

so if someone is not pure nord then that person is mixed? or what are you trying to say :eek: if you would read your history you would find that the moors and jews where expelled 1492 these where the mixed race elements, now.. we suggest you do the same with your mixed races " over there " do you think you could manage that before you all are mixed to hybrids??? soon 50 % of the US will be dark and at the moment maybe 10% of Spains population are minorities like the gypsies so its not correct to talk about "dark" Spaniards rather the light European Spaniard in this global cauldron.. in fact the MIXING is far lesser than in major cities worldwide like NY, London, Paris!!!

[Rockyfarmer]

"...its nice for your area that all are your dreamtype, however you must consider the whole of America and if I am not mistaking whites of ALL types will be a minority in 50 years..."

Greetings all.

Triskel- The pictures posted by NordicPower88 (children) are typical, everyday, run-of-the-mill White American children. These are the kind of kids I group up with. I used to think everybody looked like that.

It is astounding how much has changed demographically in such a short time.

I was born in the 50s and I was 10 years old before I ever saw a negro, segregation being the rule. There were no Asians here, then.

What you say, however, about the darkening of America is true. We don't have much time left- not even 50 years- to do something about it.

I have never been to Spain, but I've been to Italy and Greece. I wasn't very race conscious at the time, but did get the impression that South Europe was "whiter" than America in the sense that there were few negros hanging about. I did see some nonwhite Greeks, primarily in Athens/ Piraes area, but I saw lots of white Greeks in the villages and rural areas. The Greeks call the non-Whites in their land "Turks." For instance, Aristotle Onasis was considered a "Turk."

I can only speak from my limited personal experience in Greece, but most Greeks looked White to me in the "European family resemblance" sense.

[Conquistador]

Originally posted by triskel
this whole thread is laughable, what the fu** do you people know about if there are "prevalent" african or marrocan strains, what I dont understand is how you sit there spewing out nonsens about something you know nothing aboutx_nono


Then educate me on the subject in question instead of portraying me as an ignorance fu**. I'm not as ignorant as many Americans are or seem already. Being born and stuck in the United States, the only source of Spanish History that I'm able to learn from is from books and films.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by NordischesBlutundEhre
If we are going to go anywhere, I think we need to clearly define our boundaries. Turks were originally completely Mongoloid and were closely tied to the Huns and Mongols. The Turks in what is today Turkey are mixed with Dinaric and Mediterranean (and even some Nordic). Many people mistake them for Semitic/Arabic, when in fact they are not at all, they are a mixture of white and Mongol.
The fact is, that no region that has been occupied for long periods of time by non-whites can remain purely white. Yes, there ARE still pure Nordics in Spain, Italy, and Greece, but for each pure Nord, how many half-white mongrels are there? Most of Spain was occupied by Moors for 800 years, Greece and the Balkans were similarly occupied by Turks for centuries, and southern Italy was full of Semites and even some Negroids that had been imported as slaves by the Romans. Again, I am not insulting any of these countries, and I recognize the many Aryans that they produce, but the historical record must be taken into account when considering their ethnic and racial makeup.

question? I cant beleive I am hearing this from you, maybe from a a Swede wich is the most Nordic coutry in the world... but from the race mixers party... the HALF WHITE MONGRELS are to be found in the US ( FACTS ) Spain and Italy are mainly med.. if you would care to read history you would find out the truth !!!
This is the real world pal....

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by triskel
question? I cant beleive I am hearing this from you, maybe from a a Swede wich is the most Nordic coutry in the world... but from the race mixers party... the HALF WHITE MONGRELS are to be found in the US ( FACTS ) Spain and Italy are mainly med.. if you would care to read history you would find out the truth !!!
This is the real world pal....

Furthermore, Europes greatest nationalist meeting is about to begin 24:th of April 03 in memory of Jose Antonio, founder of the Falange, when you can show us the white spirit like on this pic from Madrid you can come backx_nono

[Conquistador]

Originally posted by triskel
Furthermore, Europes greatest nationalist meeting is about to begin 24:th of April 03 in memory of Jose Antonio, founder of the Falange, when you can show us the white spirit like on this pic from Madrid you can come backx_nono

*Viva Jose Antonio! *Arriba España!

[Evolved]

Turkey, (like Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, etc..) is not a European country geographically or racially. There is said to be a 3% blond population, and knowing them, their definition of blond is probably "anyone with hair lighter than black."

The 'whites' in Turkey are always strange looking. Here are the 'whitest' looking Turkish women I could find..

http://www.seboistnet.com/newphoto/Perdeler.jpg
Sebnem Ferah

http://www.trbabe.bz.tc/turk/yeliz/01.jpg
Yeliz Yesilmen

And yet, something is not quite right! x_lol

Originally posted by Reno
Honestly, I can't differentiate by looking at Greeks, Italians, Spainish or Turks. Should any of these countries be allowed to join the EU?

[Hellstar]

Damn where is turk182 when we need him, I think i go email him tomorrow to find his white Turk pics. he made lots of threads once.

But i got a big smile on my mouth when you said the phrase about 3% blonds and their own creative definitions of blondism down there:gift

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Seppl
To the question of Greeks, Italians, Spaniards & Turks, it's a very broad characterization. On the whole I class Aryans being mainly concentrated North of the Meditterrean. This is a distinct racial frontier, in the case of Italy there is a major difference between North & South not just economically. The North is "Aryan" being predominately Alpine, Dinaric & Western Meditterrean with a strong Nordic strain, particularly in the Upper classes.
Southern Italy has suffered non-Aryan admixture since the fall of Rome. There is considerable Semitic & even some Negro strains in the general population. Although, some blondes appear in the South in isolated areas.
Greece, I almost write off completely, as being too racially tainted for the most part. The Ancient Greeks & Modern Greeks are too different races. The Aryan component exists in Alpine, Meditterean,Dinaric & even some Nordic strains exist in isolated areas. By & large the Greeks have assimilated a lot of Turkic & Semitic blood one can't tell them apart from Turks. My sister married a Greek & he is as dark as a Pakistani, she poluted the gene pool by having a child by him, eventhough the boy looks "Aryan" he has Dark eyes like a Semite.
Spaniards, for the mostpart I consider Aryan, as with Italy there is a North/South racial frontier. I have met many Spaniards who would pass for Central or Northern Europeans. Look at the US Actor Martin Sheen (Estavez) he has brown hair,Green Eyes & Fair Skin, his parents were Spanish. Antonio Banderas is a classic "Aryan" Mediterrean. In the South especially around Granada, their is strong 'Moorish" admixture. Which is Arab with some Nigger strains.Spain contributed very much to European History & Culture, they were great Sailors, discoverers & Conquerers.
Turks are not even European, Turks are Subhuman mainly Turkic(Turanian), Semitic and Amernid. The few "Aryan" looking Turks are descendants of Aryans captured in the Balkans, when it was under Turkish occupation for 5 Centuries.We have to draw the line somewhere to who is "Aryan" & who isn't!
:viking I agree with you completely .. in this thread you can aread all kinds of statements from mainly Americans who think they know what a Spaniards is, these hollywood nazis are emabarrasing and European nationalists laugh their asses off .. cocky comments from a mixed people.. ha ha ha ha

[Hellstar]

Originally posted by triskel
I agree with you completely .. in this thread you can aread all kinds of statements from mainly Americans who think they know what a Spaniards is, these hollywood nazis are emabarrasing and European nationalists laugh their asses off .. cocky comments from a mixed people.. ha ha ha ha
yea I kinda agree with this one, its lifes nemesis for most of these people.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Turkey, (like Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, etc..) is not a European country geographically or racially. There is said to be a 3% blond population, and knowing them, their definition of blond is probably "anyone with hair lighter than black."

The 'whites' in Turkey are always strange looking. Here are the 'whitest' looking Turkish women I could find..

http://www.seboistnet.com/newphoto/Perdeler.jpg
Sebnem Ferah

And yet, something is not quite right! x_lol

The second link doesn't work, but the first one has obviously dyed her hair, and the natural color shows through as black or dark brown. Her face has this prognathic look like she is nigger mixed or something.....

Heh, maybe they consider her hair "blond" ...........
My definition of blond covers only until dark blond, and sometimes mistaenly very light brown, its hard to see the distinction sometimes.......

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by triskel
question? I cant beleive I am hearing this from you, maybe from a a Swede wich is the most Nordic coutry in the world... but from the race mixers party... the HALF WHITE MONGRELS are to be found in the US ( FACTS ) Spain and Italy are mainly med.. if you would care to read history you would find out the truth !!!
This is the real world pal....

Well now, if we are talking about famous people, maybe you should know that Bush only visits non-white schools, and other low-income schools, where the lowlier races thrive! None of us here said we like him!!!

And about Antonio Banderas, when he was in 13th warrior, and slept with a North-woman, I still considered it race-mixing!

He was dark enough to play an Arab!

[Hellstar]

I thought he was Arab:rolleyes:

BTW that idiot destroyed the whole movie. making the Arabs seemed sophisticated and Vikings more less of such, The Viking leader was my Idol* tall, blond with large muscles, tall forehead, straight nose and supreme warrior skills.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by HELLSTAR
I thought he was Arab:rolleyes:

BTW that idiot destroyed the whole movie. making the Arabs seemed sophisticated and Vikings more less of such, The Viking leader was my Idol* tall, blond with large muscles, tall forehead, straight nose and supreme warrior skills.

Yeah exactly............

[Conquistador]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
The second link doesn't work, but the first one has obviously dyed her hair, and the natural color shows through as black or dark brown. Her face has this prognathic look like she is nigger mixed or something.....

She's not part "nigger", she's part Asiatic, in other words, TURKISH. :rolleyes: I guess you've never seen Turk in real life; they look almost nothing like the woman in the picture. However, her heart-shaped face structure is somewhat common amongst people of Turkish/Mongol descent.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Well now, if we are talking about famous people, maybe you should know that Bush only visits non-white schools, and other low-income schools, where the lowlier races thrive! None of us here said we like him!!!

And about Antonio Banderas, when he was in 13th warrior, and slept with a North-woman, I still considered it race-mixing!

He was dark enough to play an Arab!

Anglo Americans can play halfbreeds aswell... ever heard of Elvis when he portayed a half indian... you consider Lisa Mare a product of race mixing????

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by triskel
Anglo Americans can play halfbreeds aswell... ever heard of Elvis when he portayed a half indian... you consider Lisa Mare a product of race mixing????

Anglo American.. is he NOT your fellow race ??

[Evolved]

Elvis does have Indian blood. He is 1/4 Indian if I remember correctly.

Originally posted by triskel
Anglo Americans can play halfbreeds aswell... ever heard of Elvis when he portayed a half indian... you consider Lisa Mare a product of race mixing????

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Elvis does have Indian blood. He is 1/4 Indian if I remember correctly. Clooney could have played the 13th warrior aswell, 10 minutes in the sunbed and an arab rag over the head..

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Elvis does have Indian blood. He is 1/4 Indian if I remember correctly.

Lady Goeth.. I am Spanish.. no moor... no hunn...
is it you in the avatar?

[Hellstar]

Hey Emanuel I remember that Picture! Now I know why you kept avoiding me,
We sure had our fights in the past! but also settled it as i recalled?

Was kinda wondering what had happened to you the other day.

You do look Aryan to me.

[Evolved]

George Clooney is Irish-American, there are plenty of Mediterranean types in Ireland and Britain as well. He is either a Paleo-Atlantid or North-Atlantid, the difference being North-Atlantids look more Nordish. I think he is Paleo.

http://www.georgeclooney.org/xpics/FebruaryCorner.jpg

The Irish names Clooney and Cloney are derived from the native Gaelic O'Cluanaigh that was located in County Wexford in the South-East of the country. The name is taken from the Gaelic word 'cluana' which has a number of meanings including 'rogue' and 'clever'. Clowney and MacLoonie in County Down are also variants.

Antonio Banderas is a classical Mediterranean, IMO. I didn't see the 13th Warrior, but he ought to keep his hands off the North women. :)

[Hellstar]

I agree with ladygoeth33

His Paleo Atlantid. Just because his such a fucking holywood ass licker on womans dont qualify him to be North atlantid.

I always hated the guy and the whole status about him.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by HELLSTAR
Hey Emanuel I remember that Picture! Now I know why you kept avoiding me,
We sure had our fights in the past! but also settled it as i recalled?

Was kinda wondering what had happened to you the other day.

You do look Aryan to me.

well.. my ancestors avoided the moors... i think blood and soil is important.. enjoy seeing you again

Lo, there do I see my father
Lo, there do I see my mother and my sisters
and my brothers
Lo, there do I see the line of my people back
to the beginning
Lo, they do call to me
They bid me take place among them
in the Halls of Valhalla
Where the brave may live forever...


Be well

[Evolved]

I never said anything against you.

But I do think it's pointless to show us photos of the USA government president (he's not my leader) with negroes. It has nothing to do with the condition of the "White" people here.

Yes it is my picture.

Originally posted by triskel
Lady Goeth.. I am Spanish.. no moor... no hunn...
is it you in the avatar?

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
I never said anything against you.

But I do think it's pointless to show us photos of the USA government president (he's not my leader) with negroes. It has nothing to do with the condition of the "White" people here.

Yes it is my picture.

Fine, the image was showing reallity and where you are headed and a response to idiotic comments from people over there who know absolutely NOTHING about European history.. this for example

there are for the most part arab or african mixed race types very prevalent in Spain.

this shows the emense ignorance and it amazes me how people who are a product of 6-7 nationalities, part native indian or negro or what ever have this attitude, if you where indeed a Nordic nation like Hellstars Denmark I could see the point, but hardly from " over there" let me point out that I have NEVER argued against a fellow white rather I defend against ignorance!!!

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[Evolved]

Whose quote is that? I didn't say that about Spain.

I did say something like that about Sicily a few times, based on Sicilians I've known they where undeniably mixed with Arab and heavily so.

I'm only against mongrels calling themselves Mediterraneans and idiot Pan-Aryanists who don't distinguish between real Mediterraneans and Turks, Arabs, gypsies, mexicans and people from India and Pakistan. That kind of nonsense confuses everyone into thinking mongrels are "white."

You group North Americans together, saying that we're all mixed with a bunch of different nationalities (I know and have met many Europeans, and this was also true for them!), or that we have Indian blood. Indian genes are very weak (the reason why most of them died off from smallpox).

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/the_family_man/jake_busey/familypre2.jpg
(This guy is 1/4 Indian)

And anyway, in the case of my family and many others, (only 3rd generation Americans) we didn't own negro slaves and we never met any Indians. :)

Originally posted by triskel
Fine, the image was showing reallity and where you are headed and a response to idiotic comments from people over there who know absolutely NOTHING about European history.. this for example

there are for the most part arab or african mixed race types very prevalent in Spain.

this shows the emense ignorance and it amazes me how people who are a product of 6-7 nationalities, part native indian or negro or what ever have this attitude, if you where indeed a Nordic nation like Hellstars Denmark I could see the point, but hardly from " over there" let me point out that I have NEVER argued against a fellow white rather I defend against ignorance!!!
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[goidelicwarrior]

ladygoeth33


I dont ever start an arguement.. please read this thread from the start and you will know what I mean.. who says Sicilians are heavily mixed with Arabs? well arent America the biggest melting pot.. hmmm.... then I am wrong then.. many of those from the US who post at SF and here are 1/4 of this and 1/3 of that, nothing wrong with that as long as its white however always when there are a TV program from over there such as Jay Leno ( freak ) the crowd in the studio are 50% muds, when they show US troops on TV 50% are muds.. a Sicilian army would in comparison look totally white.. in that light I have a hard time with this " thread "

Have a nice weekend!

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[Evolved]

Negroes have nothing to do with White Racialism/Nationalism in America or Europe obviously, but you keep bringing them up...

The majority of White Americans have not, did not, and will not ƒû©k with niggers.

I'm glad there are a lot of blacks in the military, I hope they send them off on very dangerous missions. I wish we could get all the negroes, mexicans, jews and chinks into the Army and send them to Iraq with Swiss Army knives. x_lol

Originally posted by triskel
I dont ever start an arguement.. please read this thread from the start and you will know what I mean.. who says Sicilians are heavily mixed with Arabs? well arent America the biggest melting pot.. hmmm.... then I am wrong then.. many of those from the US who post at SF and here are 1/4 of this and 1/3 of that, nothing wrong with that as long as its white however always when there are a TV program from over there such as Jay Leno ( freak ) the crowd in the studio are 50% muds, when they show US troops on TV 50% are muds.. a Sicilian army would in comparison look totally white.. in that light I have a hard time with this " thread "

Have a nice weekend!

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[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33


You group North Americans together, saying that we're all mixed with a bunch of different nationalities (I know and have met many Europeans, and this was also true for them!), or that we have Indian blood. Indian genes are very weak (the reason why most of them died off from smallpox).

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/the_family_man/jake_busey/familypre2.jpg
(This guy is 1/4 Indian)

And anyway, in the case of my family and many others, (only 3rd generation Americans) we didn't own negro slaves and we never met any Indians. :)

I seriously doubt he is 1/4 Indian. :rolleyes:

His father is Gary Busey, and I believe the supposed Indian ancestry comes through him. So then Gary would be half-Mongoloid, and he bears no Mongoloid traits at all, that I can see. I can't imagine him being more than 1/16th Injun. He's Nordic, natural blond.

[Hellstar]

He looks abit to dumb to be Nordic.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
I seriously doubt he is 1/4 Indian. :rolleyes:

His father is Gary Busey, and I believe the supposed Indian ancestry comes through him. So then Gary would be half-Mongoloid, and he bears no Mongoloid traits at all, that I can see. I can't imagine him being more than 1/16th Injun. He's Nordic, natural blond.

Erm, he has mongoloid buck-teeth in my opinion, also, something is not quite right about the nose and shape of the eyes........

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Erm, he has mongoloid buck-teeth in my opinion, also, something is not quite right about the nose and shape of the eyes........

We could say most people possess something not quite right if we look long enough. There's a lot of variation in Europe.

[Hellstar]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
We could say most people possess something not quite right if we look long enough. There's a lot of variation in Europe.
What are you aiming at? that the guy looks Hallstatt?
I agree that there will always be something we can idealize or devaluate after common emotional need but some things just act in un-accordance with the rest of the overall completion.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Negroes have nothing to do with White Racialism/Nationalism in America or Europe obviously, but you keep bringing them up...

The majority of White Americans have not, did not, and will not ƒû©k with niggers.

I'm glad there are a lot of blacks in the military, I hope they send them off on very dangerous missions. I wish we could get all the negroes, mexicans, jews and chinks into the Army and send them to Iraq with Swiss Army knives. x_lol

since almost every negro in te US is 30% white and they are 30 million you guys obviosly " f***d " with them, the amount of race mixing imust be enormous since you lead the way for the rest of the world with your " culture " and global village mentallity!!

[Marduk]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
George Clooney is Irish-American, there are plenty of Mediterranean types in Ireland and Britain as well. He is either a Paleo-Atlantid or North-Atlantid, the difference being North-Atlantids look more Nordish. I think he is Paleo.

Antonio Banderas is a classical Mediterranean, IMO. I didn't see the 13th Warrior, but he ought to keep his hands off the North women. :)

Like all niggers dating white women :) :) :) :) :)

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by triskel
since almost every negro in te US is 30% white and they are 30 million you guys obviosly " f***d " with them, the amount of race mixing imust be enormous since you lead the way for the rest of the world with your " culture " and global village mentallity!!

Scandinavian countries are the most liberal in the world.

America was never liberal, until the Jews came over from Russia and Europe, only since the 20th century.

Every Negro is not 30% white, that's not based on any scientific study but just hearsay. Do you have a legitimate source which confirms that?

Most studies, such as this one http://arthritis-research.com/content/pdf/ar76.pdf put the average white admixture in blacks at about 10-20%. This does not mean every single black has this much, some more, some less, some none. It would also be of note the sample size they took for this statistic and also from what area. If they're taking samples from middle to upper class blacks, sure I could see the admixture being significant, because they are more intelligent from white admixture. I doubt they're going to ghettos and poor black areas to get DNA samples.

The fact of the matter is, if Scandinavia imported Negroes there, your people would mix with them too(and do mix with the blacks already there). If Japanese go to Norway, there will be racemixing. Wherever races coexist, there will be racemixing to some degree. No group is immune to this.

[racist]

Originally posted by triskel
If you vare to read a bit more you will find out that the " moors "
where mostly berbers, a caucaisan race, before mixed recently and aumented by elements of islamized Vandals e.t.c.The Vandals were never islamized. They remained christian until they were whiped out in 534.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Negroes have nothing to do with White Racialism/Nationalism in America or Europe obviously, but you keep bringing them up...

The majority of White Americans have not, did not, and will not ƒû©k with niggers.

I'm glad there are a lot of blacks in the military, I hope they send them off on very dangerous missions. I wish we could get all the negroes, mexicans, jews and chinks into the Army and send them to Iraq with Swiss Army knives. x_lol

Antonio Banderas is a classical Mediterranean, IMO. I didn't see the 13th Warrior, but he ought to keep his hands off the North women.

Hmmm.. dident you say somewhere in your home page that your ancestors where from different countries including uzbekistan, Hungary e.t.c. i find lughable that such a mixed race person can make any statements whatsoever about a white med like Banderas

[racist]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Yes it is my picture. You look good.

[cosmocreator]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
America was never liberal, until the Jews came over from Russia and Europe, only since the 20th century.

The early government in America used the fasces symbol. It was stamped on the coinage and was on the floor of the Supreme Court -- and may still be.

[Evolved]

None of my ancestors come from Uzbekistan.

I could not be mistaken for a mestizo or arab, I don't think Antonio can say the same.

Originally posted by triskel
Hmmm.. dident you say somewhere in your home page that your ancestors where from different countries including uzbekistan, Hungary e.t.c. i find lughable that such a mixed race person can make any statements whatsoever about a white med like Banderas

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
None of my ancestors come from Uzbekistan.

I could not be mistaken for a mestizo or arab, I don't think Antonio can say the same.

why do you go after Antonio as an individual? you know full well that the US is the mecca of race mixing, why deny.. not to mention the " culture" you pour over the world, makes me wanna vommit!, again you have no credibillity in race matters as long as you prey to Abraham!!!

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
None of my ancestors come from Uzbekistan.

I could not be mistaken for a mestizo or arab, I don't think Antonio can say the same.

Ok... back to primary school, here are pics of an arab and some meztizos wich is by the way the product of European and Indian relations in case you dident know, hope this helps you somewatx_zzz

Euro Med

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by triskel
Ok... back to primary school, here are pics of an arab and some meztizos wich is by the way the product of European and Indian relations in case you dident know, hope this helps you somewatx_zzz

Euro Med

arab

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by triskel
arab

finally the meztizo and some final words since you go on about Antonio all the time, he is the darkest med type we have and I think he is a fine Euro, the iberian peninsula is a composite betwen Nordic and Med, not arab or meztizo OK??? understand??? The US is a composite of Nordic, Med, Arab, Meztizo, Native Indian, carribean, China, Korea, Jewish( your masters) shall I go on????

[Chemical Nose]

Excuse me but is that your Spaniel drinking buddies?:erm

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Chemical Nose
Excuse me but is that your Spaniel drinking buddies?:erm

he he i am not sure i follow, all i see are 3 meztizos drinking bud...

[Evolved]

triskel: I don't "mention Antonio Banderas all the time." He doesn't even interest me. Isn't he married to an American woman, Melanie Griffith?

I have nothing to do with American popular culture being exported anywhere. I'm as sick of seeing all this negro shit as you are.

I've known many European Mediterraneans. Unfortunately I also live near a large "Arab-American" population, and have seen many mestizos while travelling around America, especially in the West. I have no trouble seeing who belongs to which group.

I've seen Mexicans who look like completely mongoloid Indians, and then others who could pass for Arabs, Italians, etc. The upper classes of South America and Mexico are certainly whiter than the common people.

Mexico's president:
http://www.presidencia.gob.mx/pics/fotos/030111-01.jpg
Isn't this a white guy?

[Conquistador]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
...Mexico's president:
http://www.presidencia.gob.mx/pics/fotos/030111-01.jpg
Isn't this a white guy?

He's not full white. Probably 80% to 90% white at best. His last name, "Fox", is from an Irish ancestor of his. White Spaniards aren't the only whites in Latin America, however. There are many whites of German descent in the city of Monterrey, Mexico, where my father's side of the family is from. The German immigrants practically developed Monterrey from a small frontier town to a Metropolis within a few generations. There are people of Welsh descent in the Patagonia region of Argentina not to mention other European nationalities.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Conquistador
He's not full white. Probably 80% to 90% white at best. His last name, "Fox", is from an Irish ancestor of his. White Spaniards aren't the only whites in Latin America, however. There are many whites of German descent in the city of Monterrey, Mexico, where my father's side of the family is from. The German immigrants practically developed Monterrey from a small frontier town to a Metropolis within a few generations. There are people of Welsh descent in the Patagonia region of Argentina not to mention other European nationalities.

He's publically said he has non-white ancestry, I can't remember if it's Mongoloid or Negroid, maybe some of both, but so minor that it's not really perceivable.

[Stríbog]

He could still easily pass for Italian. Remember, Spain, Italy and Greece all have significant non-white blood, so non-whites try and pass as one of these three when they wish to be white.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by NordischesBlutundEhre
He could still easily pass for Italian. Remember, Spain, Italy and Greece all have significant non-white blood, so non-whites try and pass as one of these three when they wish to be white. dont play games, everybody knows that the US is soon a 50% non white country.. and I mean NON WHITE, not just a berber ancestor 1000 years ago but.. but non white in words full sence, just turn on your TV and see for your self!
Arthur Kemp estimated the mixed race element in Spain to 15 % since you soon are reaching 50% i really think your not in the position to judge any European country, besides, traveling in Europe I saw US tourists and honestly I have no idea who is American unitil they open their mouths, specially those with african or asian or whatever mixed features talk more loud in an extreme high volme and tough accent just to let everyone know that they are Americans, talk about smiling in that Paris corner last summer.. seeing these apes truly beleiving that they are something, so I would say its quite the opposite, these three you mention, unless recently mixed no non white such as meztizo or middle easterner could pass, on the other hand any brownie in the world can pass as an American since your nation is a cocktail of them all.. am I right or not??

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by triskel
dont play games, everybody knows that the US is soon a 50% non white country.. and I mean NON WHITE,

Where do you get this info from? I have yet to have seen anything like this..... we are still about 80% at what you would consider white, and still 50% nordish!! On a school bus for example most of the kids have blond or golden brown hair, and there are maybe a few very obnoxious nonwhites. Have you been here? How would you know??


not just a berber ancestor 1000 years ago but.. but non white in words full sence, just turn on your TV and see for your self!

Since when is the tv an accurate picture of reality? :erm x_hehe

.. am I right or not??

Nope!

Like I've said before, there's no question that we have a mixed element, but it's about the same level, if not less than Spain. However in Spain you can't easily tell the difference between whites and non-whites, because everyone is dark! Here there is a distinct line between white and non-white, and it will continue to remain that way until US whites are bred out of the population.

[Ross]

There is no reason to believe that whites have 80% in the States, and that more than 25-30% of these whites/europeans are Nordish.

[Ross]

http://www.racialcompact.com/nordishcrisis.html

At present 72 per cent of the US population is non-hispanic whites; the US Census Bureau predicts they will become a minority between 2055 and 2060.

Well we know that millions and millions of Jews and other Orientalids and Armenoids and Irano-Afghans and Hindus are included in this figure, and many are intermixed with Nords and 1/2 or 1/4 or 1/8 now... So it's good if the States are 50-55% European White/Caucasoid. Now hardly 50% of European-American Whites can be Nordish, and probably only 50% of these 50% are more or less Central Nordish.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by Ross
http://www.racialcompact.com/nordishcrisis.html

At present 72 per cent of the US population is non-hispanic whites; the US Census Bureau predicts they will become a minority between 2055 and 2060.

Well we know that millions and millions of Jews and other Orientalids and Armenoids and Irano-Afghans and Hindus are included in this figure, and many are intermixed with Nords and 1/2 or 1/4 or 1/8 now... So it's good if the States are 50-55% European White/Caucasoid. Now hardly 50% of European-American Whites can be Nordish, and probably only 50% of these 50% are more or less Central Nordish.

In the biggest cities, yes. However I live in a smaller town and most of the White US population also does too. I am talking about the north by the way. I don't know what the hell they do in the south!! Although, I have also been to Florida and it seemed pretty white to me, in fact more Nordic than where I come from. Most of the nonwhites I saw were niggers and they were maids or janitors!

I would agree though, that the US does have a non-white problem on its hands, most significantly in the big cities.

[Ross]

There are at least 13-15 million of Jews, 1/2 Jews and 1/4 Jews in the States.

[NordicPower]

But that is a small amount of our population 4 million jews in the US constitues only about 5% at the most. Still they are very powerful and in 2004 we may very well have our first jewish president. If so, I'm moving away!! I planned to anyway, it will just be sooner......

[Ross]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
But that is a small amount of our population 4 million jews in the US constitues only about 5% at the most. Still they are very powerful and in 2004 we may very well have our first jewish president. If so, I'm moving away!! I planned to anyway, it will just be sooner......

Four millions? :-)

Perhas, it's orthodox Jews only... there are many Jews who don't declare themselves, besides, many, many are mixed...

[NordicPower]

Websites say the jews only constitute 2% of the US population, and 1/4 of the worlds jews but that 70-80% of these US jews are already in positions of power.

Likewise, niggers only make up 20% of the population, however the make up over 50-70% of prison inmates!

[Rex]

Nope!

Like I've said before, there's no question that we have a mixed element, but it's about the same level, if not less than Spain. However in Spain you can't easily tell the difference between whites and non-whites, because everyone is dark! Here there is a distinct line between white and non-white, and it will continue to remain that way until US whites are bred out of the population.


Thus a spaniard white "dark" (white skin, white facial features, black hair and brown eyes) in your opinion is not white...

Dear Nordicpower88 (88=curious AH, Rudolf Hess, Himmler, Streitcher,... had dark hair), even people with dark hair have a lot of racial kinds you can have dark hair and brown eyes and you can be alpine, nordic, mediterranean, dinaric, moor, jewish... I have seen also persons with blond hair and blue eyes with an asiatic,mongoloid, juden, image...

This is a "nordicist" forum, I suppose...

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by triskel
dont play games, everybody knows that the US is soon a 50% non white country.. and I mean NON WHITE, not just a berber ancestor 1000 years ago but.. but non white in words full sence, just turn on your TV and see for your self!
Arthur Kemp estimated the mixed race element in Spain to 15 % since you soon are reaching 50% i really think your not in the position to judge any European country, besides, traveling in Europe I saw US tourists and honestly I have no idea who is American unitil they open their mouths, specially those with african or asian or whatever mixed features talk more loud in an extreme high volme and tough accent just to let everyone know that they are Americans, talk about smiling in that Paris corner last summer.. seeing these apes truly beleiving that they are something, so I would say its quite the opposite, these three you mention, unless recently mixed no non white such as meztizo or middle easterner could pass, on the other hand any brownie in the world can pass as an American since your nation is a cocktail of them all.. am I right or not??

There's a fundamental difference between a white nation having non-white or mongrel people, and the white people of that nation being mongrels themselves. Mediterraneans seem be more cosmopolitan and quick to assimilate non-whites, perhaps they are arrogant and feel their genes will dominate because they're already dark themselves. It's good that Nords are so recessive, we can more easily spot the mongrels.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
In the biggest cities, yes. However I live in a smaller town and most of the White US population also does too. I am talking about the north by the way. I don't know what the hell they do in the south!! Although, I have also been to Florida and it seemed pretty white to me, in fact more Nordic than where I come from. Most of the nonwhites I saw were niggers and they were maids or janitors!

I would agree though, that the US does have a non-white problem on its hands, most significantly in the big cities.

I live in Georgia, and the majority of whites, and I mean whites who really deserve to be called white, are Nords. I went to see the Lipizzaner stallions at the Civic Center, and even though the city here is about 40% black, there wasn't a black face in sight! It was nearly all Nordish, with a few assorted mongrels of the mestizo or Mediterranean variety. The riders of the stallions were nearly all Nordish too, with only one Spanish guy looking non-white, looked like an Arab.

You will find most Jews, Arabs, mongrels, mestizos, blacks, etc being in urban environments where they can get their drugs, their alcohol, and their welfare very easily - "concrete jungles." At least if there is a major war, all the targets are such metropolitan areas and the greatest casualties will be with nonwhites and Jews.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by REX
[B]


Thus a spaniard white "dark" (white skin, white facial features, black hair and brown eyes) in your opinion is not white...

Dear Nordicpower88 (88=curious AH, Rudolf Hess, Himmler, Streitcher,... had dark hair), even people with dark hair have a lot of racial kinds you can have dark hair and brown eyes and you can be alpine, nordic, mediterranean, dinaric, moor, jewish... I have seen also persons with blond hair and blue eyes with an asiatic,mongoloid, juden, image...

This is a "nordicist" forum, I suppose...

Yes this is a Nordicist forum and Mediterraneans are not welcome in Nordic countries.

[Rex]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Yes this is a Nordicist forum and Mediterraneans are not welcome in Nordic countries.


Then nordhammer you must go out of this forum because living in the most mongrel nation (JEWUSA) maybe you have mixed blood of your ancestors (amerindians, niggers, juden, chicanos...) and maybe you can contaminate the nordics blood lineages.

For your information I saw Mediterrean sea 4 times in my life , I live in the Atlantic Ocean coast anyway very amiable by your sincerity.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Yes this is a Nordicist forum and Mediterraneans are not welcome in Nordic countries.

First of all there are nothing such as Mediterraneans , there where, it was a white subrace that now is mixed with indoeuropeans on the north coast thus NOT mixed, and MIXED on the south side with Orientals, meds being the Old Europeans like the Basques Arthur Kemp speaks about, if you have a British ancestor they most probably have these Old European genes, a good example is Bob Hoskins and the guy you are being rude to is from the North Coast settled by celts and germanics, their features are somewhat different often, and we dont even have a single brown suburb much less race mixing, anyway with the western world crumbbling, is this your cooperative solution to the salvation of the European civilization?

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
I live in Georgia, and the majority of whites, and I mean whites who really deserve to be called white, are Nords. I went to see the Lipizzaner stallions at the Civic Center, and even though the city here is about 40% black, there wasn't a black face in sight! It was nearly all Nordish, with a few assorted mongrels of the mestizo or Mediterranean variety. The riders of the stallions were nearly all Nordish too, with only one Spanish guy looking non-white, looked like an Arab.

You will find most Jews, Arabs, mongrels, mestizos, blacks, etc being in urban environments where they can get their drugs, their alcohol, and their welfare very easily - "concrete jungles." At least if there is a major war, all the targets are such metropolitan areas and the greatest casualties will be with nonwhites and Jews.

so everyone that speaks Spanish is Spanish mooooaaaahhhaaaaaa........ then all the English speakers are one and the same, guess what language theses guys speaks

[Evolved]

Bob Hoskins is part gitano. :(

Originally posted by triskel
First of all there are nothing such as Mediterraneans , there where, it was a white subrace that now is mixed with indoeuropeans on the north coast thus NOT mixed, and MIXED on the south side with Orientals, meds being the Old Europeans like the Basques Arthur Kemp speaks about, if you have a British ancestor they most probably have these Old European genes, a good example is Bob Hoskins and the guy you are being rude to is from the North Coast settled by celts and germanics, their features are somewhat different often, and we dont even have a single brown suburb much less race mixing, anyway with the western world crumbbling, is this your cooperative solution to the salvation of the European civilization?

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Bob Hoskins is part gitano. :(

thanks for explaining, so are the darkest bull fighters and flamenco dancers aswell or other clowns, they are not Spaniards, nice awatar..

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Where do you get this info from? I have yet to have seen anything like this..... we are still about 80% at what you would consider white, and still 50% nordish!! On a school bus for example most of the kids have blond or golden brown hair, and there are maybe a few very obnoxious nonwhites. Have you been here? How would you know??




Since when is the tv an accurate picture of reality? :erm x_hehe

[B]

Nope!

Like I've said before, there's no question that we have a mixed element, but it's about the same level, if not less than Spain. However in Spain you can't easily tell the difference between whites and non-whites, because everyone is dark! Here there is a distinct line between white and non-white, and it will continue to remain that way until US whites are bred out of the population.

First of all I read this http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

Secondly I listen to the Late Mr Pierce, a very wise man, acc to the National Alliance the birth rate and immigration will make whites OF ALL KINDS a minority by 2010, you can also read Arthur Kemps, March of the Titans and his prognos, I dont like that more than you do, and by the way... if you have eyes you will easily differ a non white arab from a Spaniard, what makes you say such idiotic things??? here is an example...

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
There's a fundamental difference between a white nation having non-white or mongrel people, and the white people of that nation being mongrels themselves. Mediterraneans seem be more cosmopolitan and quick to assimilate non-whites, perhaps they are arrogant and feel their genes will dominate because they're already dark themselves. It's good that Nords are so recessive, we can more easily spot the mongrels.

ooh my.. Ok, then Arthur Kemp and Dr Pierce and Don Black are all wrong when they regognize the 3 white subraces Nordic, Alpine and Med.. maybe you should replace these gents ???
If you mean that Spain and Italy or France are mongrels because they are made up by a composite of Nord and Alpines and Meds.. yes then we are mongrels.. but hey, where does that leave you...

[Ross]

If you mean that Spain and Italy or France are mongrels because they are made up by a composite of Nord and Alpines and Meds.. yes then we are mongrels.. but hey, where does that leave you...

The rather lower cephalic index and the high facial index all over the British Isles -- above all, in southern England and in Ireland -- point, in any case, to both the Nordic and the Mediterranean race. A distribution may perhaps be made as follows: the mountainous west of Scotland shows a Mediterranean-Alpine-Nordic mixture, the Nordic race being, it would seem, almost wholly confined to the upper classes; Wales, Dorset, Devon, and west Somerset, and north-west Ireland show an Alpine-Nordic-Mediterranean mixture; in Wales only the old land-owning families are said to have a Nordic look;4 Cornwall and Ireland (except the north-west) show a Mediterranean-Nordic or Nordic-Mediterranean mixture. The Shetlands are of Nordic race, so are the Hebrides (with a light strain of the Alpine). On Long Island not so long ago a dark-haired man was looked on with some suspicion. Taking the whole of the British Isles, including the districts which were above called dark, the Nordic strain must not be underestimated; we may adopt the following proportions for these islands: Nordic blood, 55 to 60 per cent.; Mediterranean, 30 per cent.; Alpine, 10 per cent.

Nordic here stands for Nordish, and I see that Atlantids/Nordic-Meds are counted as Nordics. Besides, I feel Guenther was a bit too optimistic. Alpines are more more numerous than 10 per cent.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Ross
If you mean that Spain and Italy or France are mongrels because they are made up by a composite of Nord and Alpines and Meds.. yes then we are mongrels.. but hey, where does that leave you...

The rather lower cephalic index and the high facial index all over the British Isles -- above all, in southern England and in Ireland -- point, in any case, to both the Nordic and the Mediterranean race. A distribution may perhaps be made as follows: the mountainous west of Scotland shows a Mediterranean-Alpine-Nordic mixture, the Nordic race being, it would seem, almost wholly confined to the upper classes; Wales, Dorset, Devon, and west Somerset, and north-west Ireland show an Alpine-Nordic-Mediterranean mixture; in Wales only the old land-owning families are said to have a Nordic look;4 Cornwall and Ireland (except the north-west) show a Mediterranean-Nordic or Nordic-Mediterranean mixture. The Shetlands are of Nordic race, so are the Hebrides (with a light strain of the Alpine). On Long Island not so long ago a dark-haired man was looked on with some suspicion. Taking the whole of the British Isles, including the districts which were above called dark, the Nordic strain must not be underestimated; we may adopt the following proportions for these islands: Nordic blood, 55 to 60 per cent.; Mediterranean, 30 per cent.; Alpine, 10 per cent.

Nordic here stands for Nordish, and I see that Atlantids/Nordic-Meds are counted as Nordics. Besides, I feel Guenther was a bit too optimistic. Alpines are more more numerous than 10 per cent.

This seems fair.. but if we are going to regard mixes betwen subraces as mongrels then the whole white cause has derailed, it seems they are affected by the jewish policy originating in hollywood aiming at dividing and destruction, I dont know what nordhammers picture of a Spaniard is... but i guess its that of hollywood, here are several European Spaniards and shows the only diversity we have in contrast to " other " parts of the new world!!!

[Ross]

I advise you to check the site of the Spanish parlament and make your point.

I suspect that 50% of Britons will look like 30% of Spaniards... but not Portugeses.

There seems to be more significant difference between Southern and Northern Spaniards than among Italians, who are Alpine, more homogenous and lighter.

Do you have any sources on anthropology in Spanish?

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by REX
Thus a spaniard white "dark" (white skin, white facial features, black hair and brown eyes) in your opinion is not white...

I did not say meds are non-white, they are just a different kind of white. I've also said that the subraces should not mix any further.

Dear Nordicpower88 (88=curious AH, Rudolf Hess, Himmler, Streitcher,... had dark hair), even people with dark hair have a lot of racial kinds you can have dark hair and brown eyes and you can be alpine, nordic, mediterranean, dinaric, moor, jewish... I have seen also persons with blond hair and blue eyes with an asiatic,mongoloid, juden, image...

This is a "nordicist" forum, I suppose...

I was referring to dark skinned, dark haired, dark eyed swarthy mediteraneans.......

If people in Spain or Italy have skin as light as mine then it is only from Nordic genes in the first place. You can't really compare meds in southern countries to meds in Britain because there were no nonwhites in britain for the meds there tro mix with, the meds in Italy and Spain did mix, and it's evident in many people from those areas. Spain and Italy border so close to Arfica and the middle east can you really call them pure as a whole? This is not to say though that certain individuals or family lines haven't remained pure though.

Even so, they are so dark (in general) you will not easily be able to spot a non-white stain in them anyway.


Then nordhammer you must go out of this forum because living in the most mongrel nation (JEWUSA) maybe you have mixed blood of your ancestors (amerindians, niggers, juden, chicanos...) and maybe you can contaminate the nordics blood lineages.


The original whites who populated the US were Keltic Nordics and Anglo-saxons! In the US we had laws against racial mixing up until the late 1950's!!! Besides that, it was socially very unacceptable to race-mix up until all that Martin Luther King crap. So how the hell could most whites here be mongrels??

We had segregation! Back then the only racial problem we had were the niggers, but now we let in immigrants from all over the world, but that is only very recently, and I know neither of my parents, grandparents or great grandparents were nonwhites!! Ancestry and DNA also tell as to my purity.

When did southern European countries ever have laws against race mixing? I've never heard of any.......

[Stríbog]

It seems to me that every time a strong case is made for the existence of non-White blood in Spain, Italy and Greece, that Meds lash out defensively by saying "well you Americans are all probably part Negro" which is completely unfounded. Race-mixing was completely one-way in American society up until the 60's; that is, sleazy white men with Negresses. Anyone mongrelized since then would be visibly black, obviously. Thus, we can avoid the racially impure. In contrast, Spain was under Moorish domination from the end of the Crusades until 1492, I believe. Greece was under Turkish rule from something like 1000 AD until about 1830. Italy saw an influx of primarily Semitic slaves, with some Negroes, under Roman imperial rule, beginning with the defeat of Carthage and the occupation of North Africa. This means several centuries of slave-taking. These slaves were brought back to much of Italy and especially Sicily, and were never really driven out after the empire fell, except in the northern areas under Germanic rule. Therefore, all of these regions mentioned had centuries and centuries in which race-mixing could occur. That is why it is doubtful that most Mediterraneans are wholly White anymore.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by triskel
so everyone that speaks Spanish is Spanish mooooaaaahhhaaaaaa........ then all the English speakers are one and the same, guess what language theses guys speaks

I didn't mention his language, he never spoke. His first name and last name was Spanish, and he is also from Spain. He looked very Mediterranean also, but more of the Middle Eastern kind.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by triskel
ooh my.. Ok, then Arthur Kemp and Dr Pierce and Don Black are all wrong when they regognize the 3 white subraces Nordic, Alpine and Med.. maybe you should replace these gents ???
If you mean that Spain and Italy or France are mongrels because they are made up by a composite of Nord and Alpines and Meds.. yes then we are mongrels.. but hey, where does that leave you...

I didn't say all of Spain are mongrels, but I think there needs to be some serious filter put over the Mediterranean if we are going to let some immigrate and mix with us.

You quote Arthur Kemp, who is notorious for condemning the Mediterranean region for being highly mixed with non-European ancestry.

Where are the great Nationalist leaders from the Mediterranean? I don't see them. I see most of them in America, the land that you all condemn. Don't be hypocritical now.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
If you mean that Spain and Italy or France are mongrels because they are made up by a composite of Nord and Alpines and Meds.. yes then we are mongrels.. but hey, where does that leave you...

The rather lower cephalic index and the high facial index all over the British Isles -- above all, in southern England and in Ireland -- point, in any case, to both the Nordic and the Mediterranean race. A distribution may perhaps be made as follows: the mountainous west of Scotland shows a Mediterranean-Alpine-Nordic mixture, the Nordic race being, it would seem, almost wholly confined to the upper classes; Wales, Dorset, Devon, and west Somerset, and north-west Ireland show an Alpine-Nordic-Mediterranean mixture; in Wales only the old land-owning families are said to have a Nordic look;4 Cornwall and Ireland (except the north-west) show a Mediterranean-Nordic or Nordic-Mediterranean mixture. The Shetlands are of Nordic race, so are the Hebrides (with a light strain of the Alpine). On Long Island not so long ago a dark-haired man was looked on with some suspicion. Taking the whole of the British Isles, including the districts which were above called dark, the Nordic strain must not be underestimated; we may adopt the following proportions for these islands: Nordic blood, 55 to 60 per cent.; Mediterranean, 30 per cent.; Alpine, 10 per cent.

Nordic here stands for Nordish, and I see that Atlantids/Nordic-Meds are counted as Nordics. Besides, I feel Guenther was a bit too optimistic. Alpines are more more numerous than 10 per cent.

Guenther and others did not have an UP people in his scheme, so many of those that fall in an Alpine category would be UP under the Nordish model which was mostly created upon Coon's work. True Alpines and Mediterraneans are very minor in the British Isles, not as numerous as your quotes.

[nemo]

Triskel



You dont have to prove if your white or not to these inferior Nordicst who many are mixed themselves.

In the last 70 yrs all the Northern countrys of Europe have been the biggest race mixers in Europe.Southern Europe their has been very little race mixing.

The mixing that did accure happened 500yrs ago in Spain, 1000yrs ago in Sicily ( 9th century) and SOUTHERN ITALY 2000YRS ago (Rome).

In this country the USA! many of the so called whites from the Southern states are a mixture of white, black and Indian blood ( from the black slaves) their ancestors brought here and the Indians that were already here and many of them look it.

As far as Northern Europe goes! did you ever see Miss Sweden?
:)

[Hellstar]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Guenther and others did not have an UP people in his scheme, so many of those that fall in an Alpine category would be UP under the Nordish model which was mostly created upon Coon's work. True Alpines and Mediterraneans are very minor in the British Isles, not as numerous as your quotes.
No Günther didn't operate alot with UPs but it came later through his Phallien scheme.. (perhaps not sufficient, I agree)

its not true what your saying, there are many clean Alpine types within England, many books have been written about this subject if you carried to follow.

I didn't say all of Spain are mongrels, but I think there needs to be some serious filter put over the Mediterranean if we are going to let some immigrate and mix with us.
The Mediterranean nations are the sensitive borders merging with Levantine filth. I agree close examination upon these individuals, but not to forget many of them are alright, we must understand that these people shall under no circumstances breed with Nordics.

[Conquistador]

Originally posted by HELLSTAR
...The Mediterranean nations are the sensitive borders merging with Levantine filth. I agree close examination upon these individuals, but not to forget many of them are alright, we must understand that these people shall under no circumstances breed with Nordics.


I agree that the Northern Scadinavian nations need to remain purely Nordic. Spain, Portugual, Italy, Greece, Russia, and et cetera, also need to repel the non-white filth from entering the rest of Europe and from even further contaminating the gene pools of the European region.

[Rex]

When did southern European countries ever have laws against race mixing? I've never heard of any.......


A small lesson of European History for you, NordicPower:

Since the Average Age the diverse Christian kingdoms of Spain dictated racial laws against the Moors and juden, expelling them in century XVII and XV respectively. Some centuries before that the USA was a nation...

[Conquistador]

Rex, I guess NordicPower hasn't heard of Queen Isabella then. :rolleyes:

@ Rex: She's not as ignorant as a lot of American whites are, give her some credit.

[wrathchild72]

People, the EU is not the salvation of white Europe! Get real! As far as Spain, Greece, Italy etc., why is it that people who say that they're not white are almost certain not to have been in any of those countries in their lives?!?!??! Do you people really believe everything you see on the Jewtube?

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by wrathchild72
People, the EU is not the salvation of white Europe! Get real! As far as Spain, Greece, Italy etc., why is it that people who say that they're not white are almost certain not to have been in any of those countries in their lives?!?!??! Do you people really believe everything you see on the Jewtube?

Yeah, maybe Africa isn't so bad afterall, I've never been there!

I've met plenty of Mediterraneans here, and their descendants. I've read many physical anthropological works regarding them... I've seen many on television, and I've listened to many people's accounts who have visited those places.

[wrathchild72]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Yeah, maybe Africa isn't so bad afterall, I've never been there!

I've met plenty of Mediterraneans here, and their descendants. I've read many physical anthropological works regarding them... I've seen many on television, and I've listened to many people's accounts who have visited those places.


Who mentioned Africa here?!?!?:rolleyes:

Funny your words sound like what my Jewish 5th grade teacher said when she was trying to brainwash everybody into believing the holohoax and "the blonde blue eyed's are white and everybody else is not" bullshit.

[Rex]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Yeah, maybe Africa isn't so bad afterall, I've never been there!

I've met plenty of Mediterraneans here, and their descendants. I've read many physical anthropological works regarding them... I've seen many on television, and I've listened to many people's accounts who have visited those places.



True, I don´t need to see a moron to know he is moron.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
I didn't say all of Spain are mongrels, but I think there needs to be some serious filter put over the Mediterranean if we are going to let some immigrate and mix with us.

You quote Arthur Kemp, who is notorious for condemning the Mediterranean region for being highly mixed with non-European ancestry.

Where are the great Nationalist leaders from the Mediterranean? I don't see them. I see most of them in America, the land that you all condemn. Don't be hypocritical now.

Your next " Nationalist leader " will be Joseph Lieberman, you see everything in America dont you? the fact being that Nationalist parties in many European countries varies from 5-20% of the electorat, as far as I know most of your white electorat are 300 pound baseballfans merely intrested in his $$$$.. as for Arthur Kemp I spoke to him on several occasions and his estimate about Spain is 15% with non white ancestry if we include the gypsies wich are those you see in many spectacles such as bullfight or flamenco and based upon his ideas of social welbeing and social stabillity we must be well ahead of you, just look at the crime statistics, we cant even spell the word drive by shooting or gangviolence, I think its pretty obvious whos heading down the gutter.. adding to the matter is that every year 100 of thousands of Europeans immigrate to Spain, mainly fro GB and Germany adding in a possitive manner instead of illiterate wetbacks, good luck and climb down from your imaginary Tolkienworld, be well!!!!!

[Rex]

Originally posted by Conquistador
Rex, I guess NordicPower hasn't heard of Queen Isabella then. :rolleyes:

@ Rex: She's not as ignorant as a lot of American whites are, give her some credit.

No problem with her Conquistador, I will respect allways to the people with good manners.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by HELLSTAR
No Günther didn't operate alot with UPs but it came later through his Phallien scheme.. (perhaps not sufficient, I agree)

its not true what your saying, there are many clean Alpine types within England, many books have been written about this subject if you carried to follow.


The Mediterranean nations are the sensitive borders merging with Levantine filth. I agree close examination upon these individuals, but not to forget many of them are alright, we must understand that these people shall under no circumstances breed with Nordics.

Hello there, one example of one of the American "Aryans"
Be well!
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[Ross]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Guenther and others did not have an UP people in his scheme, so many of those that fall in an Alpine category would be UP under the Nordish model which was mostly created upon Coon's work. True Alpines and Mediterraneans are very minor in the British Isles, not as numerous as your quotes.

In this edition he didn't, but he considered ALL of them (Phalians/Cro-Magnons, Bruenns, Borrebies) as Nordische aka Nordic.

He regarded the Alpine type as foreign to his Nordische Race, and thus he knew what he was talking about.

I've never been in England, as Guenther, and my personal observation is based on (many) BBC Prime translations I saw, and I fully back Guenther. I'd like also add that more or less pure UP types are rather numrous there too.

[Ross]

Originally posted by triskel
Hello there, one example of one of the American "Aryans"
Be well!
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Btw, he's not Alpino...

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Ross
Btw, he's not Alpino...

Thanks for the tip about www.congreso.es... quite a good overwiew of people!

[Rex]

Originally posted by Ross
I advise you to check the site of the Spanish parlament and make your point.

I suspect that 50% of Britons will look like 30% of Spaniards... but not Portugeses.

There seems to be more significant difference between Southern and Northern Spaniards than among Italians, who are Alpine, more homogenous and lighter.

Do you have any sources on anthropology in Spanish?


http://www.dobleu.com/categorias/13/130/689/ (some articles are about anthropology).

[Ross]

Originally posted by triskel
Thanks for the tip about www.congreso.es... quite a good overwiew of people!

You're welcomed to post pics of various types in another thread.

I'm esp. interested in lightly pigmented types from Galicia etc

[Italia_Ariana]

I shall think not that the turks are anything like italians or spaniards!

I live in Puglia, in southeastern Italy. We get muslim crap washing on our shores all the time. They are NOTHING like us. Turks, Kurds, Iraqis, and who ever else, they are scum!

Students protest at Cagliari, Sardegna: 17 Dec 2002
http://www.forzanuova.org/cagliari.htm
http://www.forzanuova.org/studenti/logostudenti.jpg

[nemo]

Originally posted by Italia_Ariana
I shall think not that the turks are anything like italians or spaniards!

I live in Puglia, in southeastern Italy. We get muslim crap washing on our shores all the time. They are NOTHING like us. Turks, Kurds, Iraqis, and who ever else, they are scum!

Students protest at Cagliari, Sardegna: 17 Dec 2002
http://www.forzanuova.org/cagliari.htm
http://www.forzanuova.org/studenti/logostudenti.jpg

Italia!

Anybody who makes a statement like that! is either a jew trouble maker, or just an ignorant bastard who never left the farm.

[nemo]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Yeah, maybe Africa isn't so bad afterall, I've never been there!

I've met plenty of Mediterraneans here, and their descendants. I've read many physical anthropological works regarding them... I've seen many on television, and I've listened to many people's accounts who have visited those places.


And your full of shit , you mixbreed Nordic, and you are mixed.

You just read to many of those history of the white race books, that were writen by dumb ass nordics like youself,

They say that the two biggest lies in the world are?

1= the holocaust

2= that Nordics are pure! what a joke.

[cosmocreator]

Yesterday I was eating in a cafeteria. I noticed 3 people sitting in front of me at a different table. One of them was dark. I thought he looked like a Paki. Then, one of the other people asked him where he was from. He said he came here when he was just a baby but his family is from Portugal.:eek:

[Italia_Ariana]

Have you ever been to italy, bulldog?
You're american....
12% are black
2% are Jewish
4%are Oriental

All i see of americans is their glorification of rap. Am I to assume you are like a nigger just because you are an american? OR because your nation bows down to Israel at every chance it gets? They did a survey, and only a minority of Americans can locate Iraq!

The Italian education system is much better...and guess what? We're actually making good process on giving muds what they deserve! Would the turks do that? No, bulldog, they wouldn't.

The Turks tried to invade Italy....they never made it to the shore....the navies of Naples and Venice bombed their ships and the bodies of dead turks flowed onto the shores and burned....like the rest of the dog shit.

If you assume just because of geographical location we're like the turks, then i will assume since you live in NYC, the jew capital that you are either a jew or mud....sound fair?

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ns1488ca
Yesterday I was eating in a cafeteria. I noticed 3 people sitting in front of me at a different table. One of them was dark. I thought he looked like a Paki. Then, one of the other people asked him where he was from. He said he came here when he was just a baby but his family is from Portugal.:eek:

whats your point ????

[Dominator]

Originally posted by bulldog
And your full of shit , you mixbreed Nordic, and you are mixed.

You just read to many of those history of the white race books, that were writen by dumb ass nordics like youself,

They say that the two biggest lies in the world are?

1= the holocaust

2= that Nordics are pure! what a joke.

You need to chill. if you have something to say then show some evidence and reframe from posting obscene comments like this.

1 warning

[nemo]

Originally posted by Italia_Ariana
Have you ever been to italy, bulldog?
You're american..

If you assume just because of geographical location we're like the turks, then i will assume since you live in NYC, the jew capital that you are either a jew or mud....sound fair?

Hey Italia!

You misread my post ! Im on your side and I am not a jew(God forbid), or a mud.

I am an American white man.

[Italia_Ariana]

I am deeply sorry, Bulldog. I think I need alittle help with my English.
The mix of latin, french, and anglosaxon makes a confusing combination, don't you think?

[Italia_Ariana]

Originally posted by ns1488ca
Yesterday I was eating in a cafeteria. I noticed 3 people sitting in front of me at a different table. One of them was dark. I thought he looked like a Paki. Then, one of the other people asked him where he was from. He said he came here when he was just a baby but his family is from Portugal.:eek:

It could of been someone from the former Portoghese colony of GOA in India, who moved to Portugal during the 1970s.

[Rex]

Originally posted by Italia_Ariana
It could of been someone from the former Portoghese colony of GOA in India, who moved to Portugal during the 1970s.


or a mulato from Angola, Cabo Verde, Timor, Moçambique,... or a gipsy ....

The real Portuguese are whites.

Last month I watched a black girl, she had a gaelic irish name and she was from USA, Must I think that she is a irish from USA ??

Of course not.

[Ross]

Originally posted by REX
or a mulato from Angola, Cabo Verde, Timor, Moçambique,... or a gipsy ....

The real Portuguese are whites.

Last month I watched a black girl, she had a gaelic irish name and she was from USA, Must I think that she is a irish from USA ??

Of course not.

You're welcomed to post a link to a gallery of white Portugueses.

[Rex]

Originally posted by Ross
You're welcomed to post a link to a gallery of white Portugueses.


I do not like to turn to me the official lawyer of the whiteness of the people from the South of Europe, putting that in doubt is a sample of total ignorance but there is an example here, these players are of the portugese selection of football (soccer); there is a nigger hidden by a white guy.


http://www.azerifootball.com/input/portugal.jpg

[Ross]

Originally posted by REX
I do not like to turn to me the official lawyer of the whiteness of the people from the South of Europe, putting that in doubt is a sample of total ignorance but there is an example here, these youngs are of the portugesa selection of football (soccer).


http://www.azerifootball.com/input/portugal.jpg

(Interesting, why Azeri? lol)

Anyway, this pic is not suitable. I'm talking about a gallery.

Actors, politicians, members of parlament, sportsmen etc

[Ross]

A pure med

[Rex]

Sorry I have no time, maybe a portuguese member could put those pics.

[Italia_Ariana]

Originally posted by Ross
A pure med

Mamma mia!!!!!!!!x_love

[Ross]

You may post a gallery of Spaniards

[Rex]

This photo. I wait your racial analysis .

[Ederico]

Originally posted by Italia_Ariana
Mamma mia!!!!!!!!x_love

Si, mamma mia davvero, bellissima ragazza Mediterranea.

That is a good looking girl, Mediterreneans are not my favourite, but she is beautiful.

[Rex]

Originally posted by REX
This photo. I wait your racial analysis .

[cosmocreator]

Originally posted by Ross
A pure med

I'm attracted to her. I think she is beautiful.

[cosmocreator]

Originally posted by Italia_Ariana
It could of been someone from the former Portoghese colony of GOA in India, who moved to Portugal during the 1970s.


You may be right. There are also Paki/Indians who were born in Britain and call themselves British. Better to be called a Brit or Portuguese than a raghead.

[Rex]

I would like to attach a pic but it is no possible , maybe another day...

[Ederico]

Originally posted by ns1488ca
I'm attracted to her. I think she is beautiful.

Same here, you have got taste.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
A pure med

Your intimate friend VolksDeutsche would surely disagree with that! Her nose has too much of an upward angle! She is not pure Med. The dolichocephalic lowskull and swarthy pigmentation and blackish hair is right.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by ns1488ca
I'm attracted to her. I think she is beautiful.

I'm not attracted to her. She's too dark, I don't want dark kids. Her skull is way too small, it's a turn off.

Objectively she is attractive and I can understand guys liking her. Europeans have the ideal racial range of beauty, something for everyone, but she is incompatible with a northern type. Meds should stick to Meds.

[Ross]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
I'm not attracted to her. She's too dark, I don't want dark kids. Her skull is way too small, it's a turn off.


And how's about this Mestizo?

[Ederico]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
I'm not attracted to her. She's too dark, I don't want dark kids. Her skull is way too small, it's a turn off.

She is perhaps too dark for a Nordic, especially a Racialist/Nordicist one, but I guess she is still considered as a White European. Do not know about her skull though.


Objectively she is attractive and I can understand guys liking her. Europeans have the ideal racial range of beauty, something for everyone, but she is incompatible with a northern type. Meds should stick to Meds.

No one denies this, I too believe that Mediterreneans should keep to themselves, and so should Nordics. Perhaps a Eugenic program would benefit both Subraces.

You say she is not Pure Mediterrenean, well I do not know how to recognise one, I was dumb before to think that I was Mediterrenean even though I have dark blonde hair. Well now I know a tiny bit more about Subracial classifications. What would be good for non-Nordic Subraces is someone who is specialised in them. Especially White Mediterreneans need this in my opinion.

And what is meant by swarthy, I thought that was an offensive term?

[Ederico]

Originally posted by Ross
And how's about this Mestizo?

Is this a joke, I am confused, that girl is not a Mestizo right?:goodmorni

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
And how's about this Mestizo?

How do you know she is a mestizo?

Her body and pigmentation is more attractive than the Mediterranean, to me.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Nazzjonalist
She is perhaps too dark for a Nordic, especially a Racialist/Nordicist one, but I guess she is still considered as a White European. Do not know about her skull though.

No one denies this, I too believe that Mediterreneans should keep to themselves, and so should Nordics. Perhaps a Eugenic program would benefit both Subraces.

You say she is not Pure Mediterrenean, well I do not know how to recognise one, I was dumb before to think that I was Mediterrenean even though I have dark blonde hair. Well now I know a tiny bit more about Subracial classifications. What would be good for non-Nordic Subraces is someone who is specialised in them. Especially White Mediterreneans need this in my opinion.

And what is meant by swarthy, I thought that was an offensive term?

In reference to what Ross' buddy said before about a girl who is very Nordic, but everyone thought she was Eastern European Danubian, LOL, just because of a upward tilt of her nose.

I think she is a good example of a Med, even if she doesn't fit every little metric nuance of the prescribed ideal.

Swarthy means a yellowish or brownish hue to the skin. It's only offensive if one is offended to have this pigmentation.

[Ross]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
she was Eastern European Danubian, LOL, just because of a upward tilt of her nose.


Western European "Danubian" :D

And not because her nose was up-tilted, but because it was low rooted and depressed.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
Western European "Danubian" :D

And not because her nose was up-tilted, but because it was low rooted and depressed.

LOL, you change your story all the time.

First it's concave, now it's depressed! :rolleyes:

Lowrooted is Nordic, and normal. Her nasal bridge was not concave or depressed, as the real definition of it is to be used, and only the end was tilted upwards.

Her nose was similar to the guys in my profile pic.

Neo-Danubian, as you and others claimed, is not Western.

[Ross]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
LOL, you change your story all the time.

First it's concave, now it's depressed! :rolleyes:

Lowrooted is Nordic, and normal. Her nasal bridge was not concave or depressed, as the real definition of it is to be used, and only the end was tiled upwards.

Neo-Danubian, as you and others claimed, is not Western.

LOL I've got no story

Lowrooted isn't Nordic, and never will be (And it IS depressed)

Show me any anthropologist (I hope you don't consider yourself one?) who says it, or show a pic of a the person with such nose classified as Nordic.

I've seen a lot of such pics... in the Lunborg's Finnish gallery.

PS. "Neo-Danubian" - not Western"? What are you trying to say - that races are determined according to their location or that there is no Mongolid blood in Britons, or Norses or Swedes?

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
LOL I've got no story

Lowrooted isn't Nordic, and never will be (And it IS depressed)

Show me any anthropologist (I hope you don't consider yourself one?) who says it, or show a pic of a the person with such nose classified as Nordic.

I've seen a lot of such pics... in the Lunborg's Finnish gallery.

PS. "Neo-Danubian" - not Western"? What are you trying to say - that races are determined according to their location or that there is no Mongolid blood in Britons, or Norses or Swedes?

Talking to you is like talking to a black, constantly lying and emotional, changing what they say at any moment to serve their interests.

Neo-Danubian is well-defined, and it explicitly says on the SNPA site it is an Eastern European type.

So we have a point of reference, how do you define the following noses?

1.
http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/troe271.htm

2.
http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/troe272.htm

3.
http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/troe292.htm

4.
http://www.laughingstar.com/Vendela_Kirsebom/Vendela_Kirsebom_1_13.jpg

http://www.laughingstar.com/Vendela_Kirsebom/Vendela_Kirsebom_1_19.jpg

5.
http://www.aclasscelebs.com/fridau/images/24_jpg.jpg

http://www.cinema-stars.com/FridaUtter/images/48.jpg

[christopherG]

First off, I am an american who is half greek and half (Norman) English. I registered here yesterday because Im interested in European history/politics, and the preservation of distinct European cultures, races and nations.

I suppose this is a good thread for me to put my two cents in on!

Greeks and Italians are clearly identifiable to me as Europeans.
Turks are not.

Inocorporation of Turky into the EU is preposterous IMO.
Though Mediterranean Europeans appear similar to SOME Turks, Turky has a massive hoarde of brown Mongoloid Arabs who
are pouring into Europe and putting up mosques faster than you can say "make it stop!" If Turky were formaly made part of Europe proper, I predict an acceleration of this unacceptable population shift. The thought of the cultural and racial consequences of Turkish incorporation should prompt every European citizen in this forum to fierce activism. Apart from the race issue, Turky is simply a part of Asia-minor, not Europe. Look at a map. Turky is historically, culturally, religously, and racially part of the East.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by Ross
Lowrooted isn't Nordic, and never will be

I have to agree with Ross here. Nordics (at least true nordics) generally have high bridged noses. Low bridged noses are supposed to be a sign of unintelligence.

Here is a good example of a nordic nose:

[NordicPower]

Well at least they all seem to be white......
Congratulations on keeping your government white, good job.

And they have this really pretty and traditional Spanish heraldry(?) on the walls. :)

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
I have to agree with Ross here. Nordics (at least true nordics) generally have high bridged noses. Low bridged noses are supposed to be a sign of unintelligence.

Here is a good example of a nordic nose:

You can't agree with someone who didn't say what you're saying.

He said "rooted", not bridged, they are different.

The picture of the Nordic you posted has a low-rooted nose, but high-bridged. Generally the higher the bridge, also the higher the root. You'll notice some very high-bridged Meds and Dinarics of Greece whose root is between their brows!

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
You can't agree with someone who didn't say what you're saying.

He said "rooted", not bridged, they are different.

The picture of the Nordic you posted has a low-rooted nose, but high-bridged. Generally the higher the bridge, also the higher the root. You'll notice some very high-bridged Meds and Dinarics of Greece whose root is between their brows!

Hmm, can you post an example about the Meds? I'm not quite sure what you're saying.

I have to admit for a minute I was confusing the two terms.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Hmm, can you post an example about the Meds? I'm not quite sure what you're saying.

I have to admit for a minute I was confusing the two terms.

The root is where the nose begins, low - under the brow, or high - between the brow.

http://www.geocities.com/dienekesp/gynaika.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/dienekesp/diadoumenos.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/dienekesp/parallels/poseidon.jpg

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
The root is where the nose begins, low - under the brow, or high - between the brow.


Ok, I see what you mean. There is no "break" on the last two people's noses, so that would be very high nasal root?

Mostly though I've seen this type of nose on extremely blond, long headed, blue eyed people...... I took them to be nordic but I don't know what sub-race.

In my opinion meds seem to have a nose like the first man, moderately low rooted.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Ok, I see what you mean. There is no "break" on the last two people's noses, so that would be very high nasal root?

Mostly though I've seen this type of nose on extremely blond, long headed, blue eyed people...... I took them to be nordic but I don't know what sub-race.

In my opinion meds seem to have a nose like the first man, moderately low rooted.

I don't know why this is so difficult.

The latest pics show that higher root, the nose begins higher up on the face, between the brows, rather than under the browridge.

Compare the Nordic pics I posted, the one you posted, and the recent Greek pics.

[Ross]

Nordhammer,

Don't play games, you're a looser

[Ross]

Talking to you like talking to a Jew, like mud, you slip between my fingers...

[Ross]

I wonder, why your purity complex fails here - have got the same problem, huh?

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
Talking to you like talking to a Jew, like mud, you slip between my fingers...

LOL... all you can do is post pictures and quote authors, but you can't think for yourself. You have no ability.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
I wonder, why your purity complex fails here - have got the same problem, huh?

LOL

You need your eyes checked.

http://www.laughingstar.com/Vendela_Kirsebom/Vendela_Kirsebom_1_13.jpg

[Ross]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
LOL... all you can do is post pictures and quote authors,

I construe your words as a compliment LOL

[Ross]

Nordhammer,

Is this problem of personal inspiration for you?

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
Nordhammer,

Is this problem of personal inspiration for you?

Knowledge without comprehension is meaningless. It's like the Affirmative Action doctor in the hospital, they are more of a danger than anything.

If you want to misplace and misclassify perfectly good dolichocephalic Nordics, who are of proper phenotype and ancestry, as being Eastern European Ladogan-mixed types or some kind of Finnish or Lapp mix, that's your problem. It really shows your lack of ability and slanderous motives. I guess the geniuses on this list won't recognize it though.

[Tore]

Low bridged noses are supposed to be a sign of unintelligence.

Are we speaking about the Human Race as a whole?

I don't think a Semite or Indic with a high-Bridged nose is of superior intellect to an East Asian with a low bridged nose.

If we are talking about the White Race, well...

I fail to see how the Alpine is so inferior.

[Ross]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Knowledge without comprehension is meaningless. It's like the Affirmative Action doctor in the hospital, they are more of a danger than anything.


Ahhh...

If you want to misplace and misclassify perfectly good dolichocephalic Nordics, who are of proper phenotype and ancestry, as being Eastern European Ladogan-mixed types or some kind of Finnish or Lapp mix, that's your problem.

I'm really ashamed, man! But now I see... what do I see... another dolichocephalic Nordic? LOL

[Ross]

It really shows your lack of ability and slanderous motives. I guess the geniuses on this list won't recognize it though.

You started to speak about yourself in plural, huh?

Let me be blunt with you... Is all the fuss because you have the same nose? Are you a mongrel?

[wrathchild72]

Originally posted by ns1488ca
Yesterday I was eating in a cafeteria. I noticed 3 people sitting in front of me at a different table. One of them was dark. I thought he looked like a Paki. Then, one of the other people asked him where he was from. He said he came here when he was just a baby but his family is from Portugal.:eek:

That doesn't mean anything. He could've been born in Portugal to parents or even grandparents who were from Brazil and had negro blood. I've met some young people who were born in Spain but their parents were from Cuba or Venezuela or and they are mixed but they'll tell people they are Spaniards, it's better than saying you're from a third world country. A lot of Latin American mulatos are saying now they're dark because they're "part Moor" yet I've been all over Spain and never encountered anyone that remotely looks like them unless they're tourists or an overseas student. Where I live we have a small Jamaican community and some of their cousins from Britain are starting to come here, they refer to themselves as being "English".

[wrathchild72]

Originally posted by REX
or a mulato from Angola, Cabo Verde, Timor, Moçambique,... or a gipsy ....

The real Portuguese are whites.

Last month I watched a black girl, she had a gaelic irish name and she was from USA, Must I think that she is a irish from USA ??

Of course not.

I had a guy in my class that was very dark, like East Indian, kept referring to himself as "Slavic", of course everyone in the class don't know what the hell the word slavic means so everybody kept referring to him as being Slavic. It always puzzled me, so I asked him what country he was from, he said Czechoslovakia, I asked him 'You're a gipsy?', he hesitated but admitted it, unfortunetly everyone in class will forever have the perception that "slavics" look like that gipsy who wouldn't admit to what he was or ashamed of what he was or whatever. Attitudes like that unfortunetly prevail amongst some of this country, somebody in Oklahoma sees all the Mexicans in town taking jobs so he thinks everybody that speaks the Spanish language looks like them no matter where they're from.

[NordicPower]

Nordhammer, how would you classify the nose I posted?
Under the definition of low-rooted you told me about, yes it seems to be that hallstats have low rooted noses but high bridge? Or not?

[Hellstar]

in Østerdal Nordics, we see from Profile the nose is simply in parallel slope with the forehead and the eyes are deep set & close set.

Most debate refuting high bridge noses comes from people with flat baby bridge noses, therefore incompetent to force any pavement of criticism.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by HELLSTAR
in Østerdal Nordics, we see from Profile the nose is simply in parallel slope with the forehead and the eyes are deep set & close set.

Most debate refuting high bridge noses comes from people with flat baby bridge noses, therefore incompetent to force any pavement of criticism.

Østerdal Nordics? I thought that applied to all nordics? Can you post an example of this?

[Hellstar]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Østerdal Nordics? I thought that applied to all nordics? Can you post an example of this?
Dont worry, Østerdal is just a better word for Classic Hallstatt Iron-age Nordic.

And you already got a good eye for those.

My comments were directed for these types, Just look at the various Nasal illustrations in your J.W. Jamieson book.

[Breogan]

Here you have nine paintings of the galician painter Fernando Álvares de Soutomaior about galicians, go to the bottom and enlarge them:

http://www.galleciense-regnum.com/novailustrazon/arte/sotomayor.htm

FREEDOM FOR GALIZA!!!

GALIZA CEIVE!!!

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
I'm really ashamed, man! But now I see... what do I see... another dolichocephalic Nordic? LOL

Is that your graduation picture? :eek:

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Nordhammer, how would you classify the nose I posted?
Under the definition of low-rooted you told me about, yes it seems to be that hallstats have low rooted noses but high bridge? Or not?

You can see it for yourself I'm sure. Low to medium root, and high-bridged, yes.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Østerdal Nordics? I thought that applied to all nordics? Can you post an example of this?

It does apply to all Nordics. It's really a correlation, having to do with anyone who has some degree of a sloping forehead. Obviously those with a bulging forehead that is more vertical won't be parallel with the nose, as it goes out. Not all Hallstatts have this parallel slope, and many non-Hallstatts or non-Nordics, do. You can look at some of the Brunns who have this.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
It really shows your lack of ability and slanderous motives. I guess the geniuses on this list won't recognize it though.

You started to speak about yourself in plural, huh?

Let me be blunt with you... Is all the fuss because you have the same nose? Are you a mongrel?

Yeah, the only reason to oppose your nonsense, childishness, and outright lies is because I'm a mongrel!

I got a question for you - Who got banned from the SNPA list? x_hehe

I guess they all must be mongrels too! :rolleyes:

[Ross]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Is that your graduation picture? :eek:

This person shows considerable Mongoloid influence, however, it's better than Negroid-like nose, not to mention wide set eyes...

[Ross]

Originally posted by Ross
This person shows considerable Mongoloid influence, however, it's better than Negroid-like nose, not to mention wide set eyes...

Not many Negroes have such a nose!

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
This person shows considerable Mongoloid influence, however, it's better than Negroid-like nose, not to mention wide set eyes...

LOL

All children have those kind of features.

Post your childhood pic. :)

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
Not many Negroes have such a nose!

Infants and young children don't have big Nordic noses, moron. :rolleyes:

[Ross]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Infants and young children don't have big Nordic noses, moron. :rolleyes:

Long ago I was studying in a school which was located near a campus of an international university. There were a lot of (not that many actually) Negros, Latins and Asians there - it was very rare for Russia, and people were referring to the campus as a "ZOO"... so there was a mulatto studying with me, and you know, I realize now that he had the same nose. Nobody had, only he!

Even Mongolid children have more developed noses!

[Ross]

And of course all children have wide set eyes... all Mestizo children, sure... :D

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
And of course all children have wide set eyes... all Mestizo children, sure... :D

This shows your true character, picking on children.

Post your pic. :)

[Ross]

This shows your true character, picking on children.

Perhaps you shall call your senior brother, boy LOL

[Ross]

WIDE SET EYES

NEGRO NOSE

LOL

[Evolved]

Children have broader noses because the lungs aren't as developed. The face is broader and flatter. You can't judge subrace with childhood photos.

You can get some visual clues from the pigmentation, but that usually changes. I have NEVER seen a mestizo with platinum blond hair, so ridiculous.

http://www.planetware.com/imageswb/photos/MEX/MXCOZ5.JPG

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by Ross
WIDE SET EYES

NEGRO NOSE

LOL

Your idiocy has no equal.

I guess you think Vendela's children have wideset eyes and Negro noses too? :rolleyes:

[Chemical Nose]

Just out of Curiosity Nordhammer, What Sub race are you?

[Ross]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Your idiocy has no equal.

I guess you think Vendela's children have wideset eyes and Negro noses too? :rolleyes:

You're pathetic.

How you dare to equate yourself with Nordish children?

The baby have NORMAL eyes and NORMAL nose, she's not a Mestizo!

And she dosn't look like a retard anyway!

[Ross]

Originally posted by Chemical Nose
Just out of Curiosity Nordhammer, What Sub race are you?

Wanna be race

LOL

[Chemical Nose]

Well nordhammer?

Originally posted by Ross
Wanna be race

LOL

when did SNPA and Richardo invent that:naughty

[Ross]

Originally posted by Chemical Nose
Well nordhammer?



when did SNPA and Richardo invent that:naughty

When Mr. Nordhammer sent them his pic.

[Ross]

As we can see, uruk-hais can be blond too

lols

[Conquistador]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
I have NEVER seen a mestizo with platinum blond hair, so ridiculous.

I have seen one with natural dark red hair before, but it's a different kind of red and EXTREMELY rare in mestizos. It depends if the parents have the gene to activate it in the next generation.

[Ross]

Originally posted by Conquistador
I have seen one with natural dark red hair before, but it's a different kind of red and EXTREMELY rare in meztisos. It depends if the parents have the gene to activate it in the next generation.

:D

[Conquistador]

Originally posted by Ross
:D

What "mix" is she of, may I mention?

[Iuzln]

Originally posted by Ross
:D

She has a very intelligent expression.
Probably she works at NASA. x_rofl

[Conquistador]

She looks drunk to me. :wine

[Ross]

Originally posted by Conquistador
What "mix" is she of, may I mention?

Nordish/Mongol... Mestizo

But better ask Nordhammer, he knows his kin better...

[cosmocreator]

Originally posted by Trønder
Are we speaking about the Human Race as a whole?

I don't think a Semite or Indic with a high-Bridged nose is of superior intellect to an East Asian with a low bridged nose.

If we are talking about the White Race, well...

I fail to see how the Alpine is so inferior.


It was just a little Nordish self-agrandizing.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by ns1488ca
It was just a little Nordish self-agrandizing.

Stop making up long words to make yourself seem more intelligent.... x_nonox_rofl

[NordicPower]

Sorry to burst your bubble Ross but that child is pure. All children have flat faces to some extent, but yet still easily separated from mongeloid children. And not every east baltic is mongrelized!

Besides that I really think you should stop degrading forum members. It's annoying, mean, and useless anyway. Nordhammer did nothing to deserve any of that and he's not any kind of mongrel.

You misuse terms anyway, mestizo means Spanish-indian mix. I never have seen anybody from Mexico looking like the supposed "mongrel" child.

But of course, your avatar proves your true colors anyway :butt :hi

[Evolved]

The down-turned eyes... x_hehe

http://www.families-first.com/pets/images/emmablue.jpg

Britney Spears has the same problem. :puppyeyes

Originally posted by Ross
:D

[Ross]

Originally posted by NordicPower88

But of course, your avatar proves your true colors anyway :butt :hi

With this flag our ancectors were successfully fighting with miriads of Asians invading Europe, with this flag Russians have crushed Khazaria (the last Jewish State), defeated Swedes and Teutons, with this flag they're standing on Kulikovo field and storming Kazan...

It's a glorious, noble flag. Perhaps, only the Roman Eagle can be compared with it.

[Ominous Lord Spoonblade]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
The down-turned eyes... x_hehe

Britney Spears has the same problem. :puppyeyes

You mean Down syndrome? hahaha. I wouldn't compare that poor dog to Britney Spears...he's much too cute!

[Tore]

With this flag our ancectors were successfully fighting with miriads of Asians invading Europe, with this flag Russians have crushed Khazaria (the last Jewish State), defeated Swedes and Teutons, with this flag they're standing on Kulikovo field and storming Kazan...


Didn't know Russia had been communist for the last millenium

[NordicPower]

The funny thing that didn't show in the picture of Ross's avatar is that after they took the picture, the guy with the flag fell down the cliff to his death, and the flag also got torn all the way down x_rofl :viking

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by Trønder
Didn't know Russia had been communist for the last millenium

LOL x_hehe x_hehe x_hehe x_hehe

[gundalb1118]

I just saw this thread and I got to say my family never mixed with subhuman non-whites

My own grandfather served in the 250th Div of the Wermacht defending the White Race. He served in the frontline for two years and later was working in the Spanish Embassy in Berlin til the end of the War. He had friends in the SS and two Iron Crosses for his service.

Be sure he never got a bad word about his racial origin from SS officials.

I got to remember than Spaniards were the hammer of Muslims in our own soil protecting the rest of Europe of this Arab/Black invasion of European land.

I dont like proud white people trying to put some sub-species of the White Race over other.

We are just one people and there is only ONE Europe, the White Europe.

Gundalb
Gundalb1118@yahoo.es

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by gundalb1118

My own grandfather served in the 250th Div of the Wermacht defending the White Race. He served in the frontline for two years and later was working in the Spanish Embassy in Berlin til the end of the War. He had friends in the SS and two Iron Crosses for his service.

I dont like proud white people trying to put some sub-species of the White Race over other.

We are just one people and there is only ONE Europe, the White Europe.

Gundalb
Gundalb1118@yahoo.es

Interesting you should say all of this, considering Germans fought for GERMANS, not the "white race". Germany viewed itself under that leadership as a distinct people and were interested in preserving themselves above all others. I certainly agree with that idea.

[wrathchild72]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
Interesting you should say all of this, considering Germans fought for GERMANS, not the "white race". Germany viewed itself under that leadership as a distinct people and were interested in preserving themselves above all others. I certainly agree with that idea.

Obviously you never read Mein Kampf! Maybe my history is a little fuzzy but from what I recall it was Germany who helped Franco eliminate the Jewish Communist parasite from Spain prior to WWII. Never mind there was several divisions in the German military made up of foreign volunteers.

PS: If you live in North America, it's impossible to be a pure Nordic, nevermind only 10% of people in Scandanavia can actually be considered such [yes I've actually travelled the world unlike most of my fellow Americans who think they know it all]. You might want to re-evaluate your background.

[wrathchild72]

Originally posted by Ross
This person shows considerable Mongoloid influence, however, it's better than Negroid-like nose, not to mention wide set eyes...

What planet you from? The kid looks like any other white kid at that age [though the hair & pic looks like it was from the 70s!]. How dare you come here with that piece of sh^t flag, that flag is so red from over 120 MILLION people MURDERED by a system created by JEWS [Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, Honneker, etc.] and you're talking sh^t that it stands for Russian pride or whatever it was, the Russians I know would skin you alive seeing you using that sh^t

[wrathchild72]

BTW, the above pic is what a mestizo actually is, a mixture of American Indian and white.

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by wrathchild72
Obviously you never read Mein Kampf! Maybe my history is a little fuzzy but from what I recall it was Germany who helped Franco eliminate the Jewish Communist parasite from Spain prior to WWII. Never mind there was several divisions in the German military made up of foreign volunteers.

PS: If you live in North America, it's impossible to be a pure Nordic, nevermind only 10% of people in Scandanavia can actually be considered such [yes I've actually travelled the world unlike most of my fellow Americans who think they know it all]. You might want to re-evaluate your background.

Impossible it is not, improbable - perhaps, depending on your definition. There are plenty of Nordics, who may have most or all of their lineage being some type of Nordic.

There is also a Hallstatt Nordic girl, whom I know, who lives in Atlanta and she is directly from Sweden.

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by wrathchild72
Obviously you never read Mein Kampf! Maybe my history is a little fuzzy but from what I recall it was Germany who helped Franco eliminate the Jewish Communist parasite from Spain prior to WWII. Never mind there was several divisions in the German military made up of foreign volunteers.

PS: If you live in North America, it's impossible to be a pure Nordic, nevermind only 10% of people in Scandanavia can actually be considered such [yes I've actually travelled the world unlike most of my fellow Americans who think they know it all]. You might want to re-evaluate your background.

Yeah its true that Germans fought for the Aryan race and also for Germany which was perhaps the most important part of the aryan race. They fought for their culture, land and volk. Nordhammer, don't think this ideal was so shallow as to only have been about Germans, it's far more deeper, spiritual and much more complicated than that. Surely they cared about their own country first but they also cared very much about our race.

But Wrathchild, are you saying suddenly when nordics move to America they become un-nordic? How is this possible? :eek:

Or are you saying that the people who came here who we descend from weren't Nordic either because there are no nordics in England or Germany?

I happen to know quite a few pure nordics living here in the US. But of course, you are one of the followers of this anti-nordicism ideaology, right? Every other sub-race besides nordic can be pure but not nordics? I would think it would be the other way around because if a nordic is not pure they will NOT look nordic, except perhaps in earliest childhood.

I guess this US Hallstatt is not a pure Nordic either :rolleyes:

[NordicPower]

And this woman is also not nordic because it's impossible since she's from North America, specifically the US......

http://www.canadians.ca/celebs/rachel_blanchard-slide.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/celeb/rachelblanchard/clue12.html

And this one's not nordic either x_nono

[Moody]

'Purity' can never be an absolute.

In all cases we are talking of DOMINANT characteristics, whether in so-called Nords, Meds, Alpines etc.,

These are approximate terms.

Can anyone trace their lineage back ten thousand years to the last Ice Age?
Of course not - and if they could, they may be shocked at what they find!

With advances in genetic science it may be possible to do this one day - and expect some red faces!

We are dealing in related, impure types with only a RELATIVE 'purity', and Nordicists should not feel so insecure about this.

The fact that Hitler was not Nordic [or pure Nordic] should lay their minds to rest - 'purity', even if it were possible, has nothing to do with greatness.

Indeed, I wonder whether this 'will to purity' is a leftover from Christianity with its need to 'purify' the Believer?

[NordicPower]

Originally posted by Moody Lawless
'Purity' can never be an absolute.

In all cases we are talking of DOMINANT characteristics, whether in so-called Nords, Meds, Alpines etc.,

These are approximate terms.


Of course. Purity can not be taken as an absolute, however I would not be surprised if some people could indeed be 100% pure nordic, and yes even in the US!! This is because nordic traits are recessive. You will not get a blond, blue eyed nordic looking person with having very much non-nordic ancestry or even a drop of non-white ancestry. However brown eyes and dark hair are far more dominant. Even if your ancestry is 70% nordic you can still look 100% med, if the rest is med. Thats why it's so important to keep our sub-race relatively pure.



With advances in genetic science it may be possible to do this one day - and expect some red faces!

Some is right. Everyone, no. We are not that mixed! Certainly not as much as this insulting article on Stormfront claims we are. It says go back 1000 years and every Hun, asiatic and mongrel in Europe is your ancestor. I highly doubt that since tribes stayed with their own kind.

We are dealing in related, impure types with only a RELATIVE 'purity', and Nordicists should not feel so insecure about this.

We don't.

Indeed, I wonder whether this 'will to purity' is a leftover from Christianity with its need to 'purify' the Believer?


Could be, these people keep insisting nordics are not "pure" when they are the ones who have to push this agenda for egalitarian reasons, they are not pure themselves (non-white blood).

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by wrathchild72
Obviously you never read Mein Kampf! Maybe my history is a little fuzzy but from what I recall it was Germany who helped Franco eliminate the Jewish Communist parasite from Spain prior to WWII. Never mind there was several divisions in the German military made up of foreign volunteers.

PS: If you live in North America, it's impossible to be a pure Nordic, nevermind only 10% of people in Scandanavia can actually be considered such [yes I've actually travelled the world unlike most of my fellow Americans who think they know it all]. You might want to re-evaluate your background.

Nice pic, unlike some here, my kin fought on the RIGHT side against Stalin and Roosenfeld.. was it ??

[Evolved]

Someone posted that "Who is White" essay for the millionth time?

http://women.stormfront.org/Writings/whoiswhite.html

It basically says "we're all mongrels to some degree, let's forget about physical subracial differences for now and pretend like they don't exist, let's all be one big mongrelized white family."

Sounds like a bunch of crap to me. :poo poo

Originally posted by NordicPower88
Some is right. Everyone, no. We are not that mixed! Certainly not as much as this insulting article on Stormfront claims we are. It says go back 1000 years and every Hun, asiatic and mongrel in Europe is your ancestor. I highly doubt that since tribes stayed with their own kind.
[/B]

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Someone posted that "Who is White" essay for the millionth time?

http://women.stormfront.org/Writings/whoiswhite.html

It basically says "we're all mongrels to some degree, let's forget about physical subracial differences for now and pretend like they don't exist, let's all be one big mongrelized white family."

Sounds like a bunch of crap to me. :poo poo

I agree with you, David Lane's statement, although with good intentions for political unity, is an emotional plea that is dismissive of the real problem "whites" face. Much of his argument is a manipulation, for instance, the idea that racial purity or possessing Nordic traits means someone is superior in other abilities such as having a genius IQ or whatever.

While there are correlations with behavior and IQ for race, it's not absolute, and no one ever claimed that all blonds are geniuses, etc. But the fact remains, those of a particular race or subrace, are superior to every single individual of another race or subrace when it comes to reproducing their respective race or subrace. For example, no one can rationally claim that any Negro male can better reproduce a white child/person than any white male, as all Negro males possess gene frequencies that produce a Negro phenotype. In the same way all Mediterraneans are inferior at producing a Nordic phenotype. While there are important correlations that distinguish race and subrace, let us not make absolute associations. Race itself is reason enough to preserve race.

Then he goes on to argue that no one is pure if they go back 10,000 years, well, I'm sure some are, but certainly many will not be - but this isn't really important. Then he associates this argument equally with admixture from a much more recent source, being 1/16th - this is silly. Having a non-white ancestor in the last few generations certainly is much more important than one 10,000 years ago!

Folks, the fact of the matter is, there are many mixed people on this earth, and they have to go somewhere. We cannot put our heads in the sand and ignore the reality we live with. The number of mixed people is also growing, and many of these mixed people would rather be "white" than otherwise, trust me. So the importance of having a reasonable standard to preserve race is important and progressively so.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by ladygoeth33
Someone posted that "Who is White" essay for the millionth time?

http://women.stormfront.org/Writings/whoiswhite.html

It basically says "we're all mongrels to some degree, let's forget about physical subracial differences for now and pretend like they don't exist, let's all be one big mongrelized white family."

Sounds like a bunch of crap to me. :poo poo

bunch of crap..maybe.. but tell me... how many posting here are of ONE subrace?? are you of only ONE subrace? since you find it to be " a bunch of crap " i see you favor Hungarians, Bulgarians in your homepage, they are among the most " mixed " countries in Europe, not as the US but anyway...

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Nordhammer
I agree with you, David Lane's statement, although with good intentions for political unity, is an emotional plea that is dismissive of the real problem "whites" face. Much of his argument is a manipulation.

For instance, the idea that racial purity or possessing Nordic traits means someone is superior in other abilities such as having a genius IQ or whatever. While there are correlations with behavior and IQ for race, it's not absolute, and no one ever claimed that all blonds are geniuses, etc. But the fact remains, those of a particular race or subrace, are superior to every single individual of another race or subrace when it comes to reproducing their respective race or subrace. For example, no one can rationally claim that any Negro male can better reproduce a white child/person than any white male, as all Negro males possess gene frequences that produce a Negro phenotype. In the same way all Mediterraneans are inferior at producing a Nordic phenotype. While there are important correlations that distinguish race and subrace, let us not make absolute associations. Race itself is reason enough to preserve race.

Then he goes on to argue that no one is pure if they go back 10,000 years, well, I'm sure some are, but certainly many will not be - but this isn't really important. Then he associates this argument equally with admixture from a much more recent source, being 1/16th - this is silly. Having a non-white ancestor in the last few generations certainly is much more important than one 10,000 years ago!

Folks, the fact of the matter is, there are many mixed people on this earth, and they have to go somewhere. We cannot put our heads in the sand and ignore the reality we live with. The number of mixed people is also growing, and many of these mixed people would rather be "white" than otherwise, trust me. So the importance of having a reasonable standard to preserve race is important and progressively so.

for the millionth time ... thre are no ecxact boundaries betwen meds, alpines or Nordics.. 1/3 of Britain is pre indoeuropean 2/3 of Italy is preindoeuropean ( what you call Med ) and there in betwen there are the product of maybe 5000 years of inter European affairs. I truly dont see what your point is???

[Nordhammer]

Originally posted by triskel
for the millionth time ... thre are no ecxact boundaries betwen meds, alpines or Nordics.. 1/3 of Britain is pre indoeuropean 2/3 of Italy is preindoeuropean ( what you call Med ) and there in betwen there are the product of maybe 5000 years of inter European affairs. I truly dont see what your point is???

You're an obfuscator, you will never see any point to anything. I believe my argument is clear and purposeful.

1/3 of Britain is not Mediterranean, and genetic studies prove that.

[Moody]

1
There is a basic LOGICAL point here which has nothing to do with an agenda; its about being an intelligent person when it comes to science.
Since every person alive today is part of a long chain of generations going back thousands upon thousands years into pre-history, then there cannot be any 'pure' types.

To argue that a particular "recessive" individual as an isolated unit may conform to one of Gunther's types is self-defeating because the whole position of Racial Nationalism is based on HERITAGE!
It is liberalism which promotes individualism, remember.

We are what our ancestors made us!
[This is not to say that 'multiracialism' is correct - of course not; it is rather about having some humility when it comes to looking at scientific questions - our political ideals needn't be affected by scientic theories/discoveries as they operate on a different level and in a different sphere].

2
The other point based on fact is this; Pure-Nordic superiority as an Ideal is fine; but it is a sham in terms of Reality.
This is because most [if not all] of our great Leaders and thinkers have not been Pure Nordic - many of them were not even Nordic at all.
Indeed, I wonder why we don't make Mediterraneanism our Ideal if we have to have one [don't take that to heart NP88!].

3
But as I have said, Ideals have no place in science; therefore Racial Scientists of TODAY must keep up with the advances in genetics, and be man enough to revise old pre-DNA opinions.

But this needn't affect your Ideals!

And for Odin's sake, let's stop this stupid sub-racial infighting; racial categories were invented by us to serve us - we mustn't be slaves to our own categories.

We are Masters, not Slaves.

[goidelicwarrior]

Originally posted by Moody Lawless
1
There is a basic LOGICAL point here which has nothing to do with an agenda; its about being an intelligent person when it comes to science.
Since every person alive today is part of a long chain of generations going back thousands upon thousands years into pre-history, then there cannot be any 'pure' types.

To argue that a particular "recessive" individual as an isolated unit may conform to one of Gunther's types is self-defeating because the whole position of Racial Nationalism is based on HERITAGE!
It is liberalism which promotes individualism, remember.

We are what our ancestors made us!

2
The other point based on fact is this; Pure-Nordic superiority as an Ideal is fine; but it is a sham in terms of Reality.
This is because most [if not all] of our great Leaders and thinkers have not been Pure Nordic - many of them were not even Nordic at all.
Indeed, I wonder why we don't make Mediterraneanism our Ideal if we have to have one [don't take that to heart NP88!].

3
But as I have said, Ideals have no place in science; therefore Racial Scientists of TODAY must keep up with the advances in genetics, and be man enough to revise old pre-DNA opinions.

But this needn't affect your Ideals!

And for Odin's sake, let's stop this stupid sub-racial infighting; racial categories were invented by us to serve us - we mustn't be slaves to our own categories.

We are Masters, not Slaves.

There are no infighting, even in Sweden, the most Nordic country in the world there are not only pure Nordics let alone in France or England or Germany for that matter, what I am saying is that one can not portray all in one nation as Meds and an other as Nordic because its simply not the case, but I agree.. we are Masters!